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Anyone who is worth a decent contract isn't participating in this event. It will be guys who have been out of football, looking to get back in, guys coming off injuries, etc.

I'm not following. If anything, that makes him look better. He was able to maximize their value and turn them into top picks (he's not the one further coaching them up in the pro's). Also, I don't know that you should talk about Wells cause he was drafted in 2009 (and I don't believe Drayton was at OSU at that point). Did you see their rushing attack this year, it was lethal and their back was outstanding. Elliot was incredible.

Don't we have to see how Cody responds. Say what you want about Vick's actions, you have to comment the way he's responded to the actions.

Ian Rappaport indicated this was a huge coup for the Bears and he's extremely well thought of in football circles.

It sure would be cool if Wilbon was the Browns GM and willing to trade us Jay for their 2 first round picks. How amazing would that be. That would allow us the quick opportunity to add significant talent to the team while also freeing up significant cap space. That said, we'd have pure crap at the QB position and any QB not named Winston in this draft will be a major project, imo, and well Winston, while I think will be a great QB, has the potential bust rate for stupidity. I still think there are quite a few teams out there, that are going to look at their rosters and say, with a decent QB we can contend. They'll look a this yr's draft and say, okay, Chicago, what will it take to get Jay. I especially think this will be the case for some franchises who have had some pretty long struggles and are itching to get back to the post-season. You can win with Jay if you put a good team around him (we already say that in the past...he's won a playoff game and played great in that game with us and obviously than we lost the NFC championship game). You can't win, even with an elite defense, if you have crap like Geno Smith or everyone the Rams have thrown out, or really even the Bills QB's (and Orton was pretty darn bad last year in reality). The Titans are another factor as they smelled a lot of early success (post move) and have to be itching to get back and tired of failed drafted QB experiences (plus the whole Vandy vibe). It will be very interesting to see what goes down in the next month or so. PS: I should note that I still think that moving Jay only makes sense if you can get substantial value for him. Otherwise, I think we are more likely to put ourselves in a significantly worse position as it really isn't easy to find a QB in this league (and I'd hate to see this defense get fixed only to have Geno Smith QB'ing us and us all throwing up as we can't even make the playoffs). We thankfully all know what we have in Jay now and no one is going to bank on him single handledly winning us the superbowl (which is what the Bears had initially banked on) nor will the Bears front office pass up or ignore the QB position if they see a guy out their they think has "it". While we find that QB, if we put a good team, we can contend and improve all while targeting a better QB to help take us to the next level (that can be groomed). Hell, a lot of it is luck and damn it, we are due, right!!!

Manziel, their 12th and 19th picks in the draft. With all of the issues going on in Cleveland and the fact that the franchise has been down for so long, they need to find some continuity at QB. Manziel probably isn't that guy (and or could use a change of scenery after going into rehab) and with the defense they have, they need to find a solid QB who can try and get them back to the playoffs. Wilbon suggested Bears trade Cutler for their 2 1st (with no mention of us giving back our 1st), however, I find that incredibly unrealistic (although I would clearly do it, because I think as a franchise, we need to be in full blown, talent accumulation mode right now). I also, while being okay with keeping Jay, like the idea of 2 first round picks (in addition to having our high 2nd round pick) from the perspective of we should be able to seriously beef up our defense and probably take a shot on a QB (if we though one graded out).

I think he's got some potential.

This is a really good interview and I think he handled these comments really well.

Peanut is an all time fav of mine so if he can play, I hope it is in Chicago. That said, kind of funny how the entire article was based upon a 30 second conversation haha.

I think that could be a reason why Jay would have been even "less" of a leader at that point (since he was pretty much on the outs by that time). However, I guarantee Feeley talked to others who confirmed what he thought and said yep, been like this all year.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0128-story.html Pretty interesting article. A lot of what we've already heard but Feeley is a pretty intelligent guy and already kind of works in media (outside of occasionally signing on when other teams kickers get hurt).

That is why I'd prefer Moore. I think you could get him for quite a bit less. I don't need all pro, I'd like above average though. And at 24, his age is a positive.

Willie Young and Stephen Paea both had careers years and our young tackles weren't bad either. Ratliff played good too. Allen was only guy with major degration and that was probably due in part to age and in part to getting really sick. I thought in general, the dline was the strength of our defense (yes...that is kind of an oxy-moron but it was).

Hurt is a good coach. This is a good move. One of the few guys on last years staff that was solid, imo.

I was thinking a 3-4 might actually extend his life. He can read a defense and tackle, its more that his range is limited but in a 3-4, he'll actually need to cover less ground and in reality play better for an older Briggs. That said, I still have a lot to learn when it comes to all of the nuances of a 3-4 defense.

Familiarity with Fox, great age so you would feel more comfortable giving him the money, etc. Allows you to focus on BPA and really shore up a major need position in the secondary. Pair him with Mundy / Vereen and maybe Gholson (Ex 49 er safety who will likely be cut by Tampa).

Does Briggs fit a 3-4? Given all the needs, if we add one or two young players, not a bad thing to have a dedicated Briggs back. The question really comes in to his dedication. Of course, I'm one of the few on this board that has been a huge Briggs fan, although last year he clearly was pretty upset and don't like the way he handled himself. I presume the Bears will not bring him back but in Fox / Pace I trust. I would hope Fox, Briggs, Fangio and Pace could talk and see if they thought there was a good fit. I am most concerned on his inability to stay on the field though. He was still our best lb'er (not that it says much) when he was healthy. At least make sure you don't turn this into another "Urlacher" situation. Lets handle this one right. Say what you will about Briggs, but he was a borderline hall of fame linebacker for the Bears and had a heck of a career in Chicago. My perspective if we probably should say no thanks and try to bring some new leaders into the fold, who can be voices of the Fox / Fangio / Gase regime.

See my other post. Pats could have circumvented (but still met) rules by inflating balls with higher temperature air.

Agree. I was more referencing to you talking about moving up with the other pick to grab a safety. I don't think you fall in love and move up, outside of a spot here or there and you better have another plan to get other picks. Bottom line, percentages and odds say you are going to bust and miss so the more picks you can scoop up in the early to middle rounds, the better.

Lol....ahh good ole willie. I always think of him as an end but agree he'd be more of a fit on the outside LB in the 3-4. Agree the ends are typically bigger but not necessarily your typical tackles. They tend to be heavy but also tend to have longer wing-spans, etc. Houston would seem to fit the mold more than anyone else we have from the end perspective.

That could be explained by their practices as well though. I have heard many ex players talk about how much Beli would make them practice in the various elements, etc, and how much him and his assistants would drill ball control into their heads (more so than any other coach they had played with).

Greene will get cut and you are proposing 3 DT's in a 3-4, all of which were relatively high draft picks and one who had to sign a big contract (Paea). Or are you implying Ego / Paea would be ends? Whose young?

I vote for the Beliceck philosophy. Trade down, trade down, trade down. Accumulate picks and talent and value the mid-round picks. Don't be a fool and get caught on the sexy top end talents, accumulate picks and you'll be able to maneuver all around the draft.

On a sidenote, as I mentioned, be leary of media reports. Well PFT is reporting that 10 of the 12 footballs were under-inflated by 1 PSI (not 2). http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/...or-deflategate/

Haha, seems like Brady should have hired my buddy who could have done it within the "rules" and gotten the same results, haha.