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Leftwich will ultimately get more money than KO and right now KO is the starter. The Bears won't do that. Losman will be the guy, unless they draft a QB (ie, if Sanchez falls or Freeman becomes worthy of going at 18).

Are you kidding me? This would be the biggest no brainer in the history of no-brainers. Urlacher is past his prime and Boldin is in his prime and fills a much bigger need. I'd make the trade in a heart-beat. I doubt the Cards would and I have no idea what the cap rammifications of the deal wouldf be but in terms of actual compensation there is no way the difference between 1 3rd or 2 3rd's would prevent me from making this deal.

The Bears clearly have to have tackle high up on the list. It would be tough to win having two rookie tackles (ie, if we take one in the early rounds of the draft and add it to Williams, who is essentially a rookie). So with that in mind, I would expect the bears to add a veteran tackle or maybe opt for St. Clair, but I hope they only go the route of St. Clair if they truly think he's a quality starting RT in this league. I think St. Clair is a nice backup (since he can play guard/tackle) but ideally he isn't a starting tackle on a top notch oline.

Just cause Minny is going to go after Cassel doesn't mean they will get him. If they don't, they might think long and hard about going with Garcia. I still think Leftwich and some others might be higher on Minny's list as well though. Garcia could be a fit in Chicago, but I think the Bears need to bring in QB's that they think have a shot at being a long-term solution, not just some one year stop-gap. So if you aren't going to bring in a young QB to compete with Orton, I'd rather just draft a QB early this year, let Orton try for one last season and if he struggles you make the change and turn the reigns to the young guy mid-season.

I have to digress. Mike Brown was absolutely horrific last year in pass protection. He was still average at stopping the run but I think now is the right time to try and adjust. I don't believe the Bears have the in-house guys (Payne/Manning is not the right combination, imo, however it is possible that Tillman or Vasher is the right guy and that the squad will instead make a change at the CB position). I do wish Brown the best of luck in his future and hope one day he'll be a part of the Bears coaching staff.

Torry Holt would be fabulous.

This would be a fabulous freakin move.

This is good news, imo. I Liked Booker a lot and he's a respected vet but he clearly doesn't have much left. Now the Bears need to bring in a legitimate WR.

Honestly, I'll be comfortable having Vasher healthy and playing as a nickel back. Than in the uncapped year if he still stinks you axe him.

I'm sticking around. I think pretty much 90% of the core from that forum has moved here now so I pretty much consider this bearstalk. It's too bad none of us owned that domain otherwise the name could have stayed the same and everything.

Furrey would be a real nice potential impact move. I think the Bears would be well suited by adding a Furrey and Torri Holt and than hoping the in-house combo of Hester/Bennett can develop. You'd have some young guys plus a veteran whose just one year removed from a string of like 7 straight 1000 yard seasons and another veteran who is still relatively young that is a season away from a huge year as well. Our WR corps would be pretty legit, imo.

Holt would be a fantastic acquisition. His numbers stalled because of poor QB play, not necessarily because he's not an above average receiver. Get er done.

3 playmakers? You got to be kidding me. Forte was about the only play-maker on the squad and I don't know that I'd call him a play-maker, albeit it he's well on his way to becoming a very above average running back and a true play-maker (But he's not the type thats going to take it to the house on any play). And in no way will I call Olsen or Hester playmakers. They both have the ability to develop into that but neither had ridiculous yardage numbers or td numbers. So ya, I'm going to give Turner a lot of credit, he had a mediocre (albeit improved) oline, a young QB, and one of the worse WR corps I've ever seen and still found a way to put a decent offense out there. I think he deserves a hell of a lot of credit for that.

On a sidenote, when does FA begin.

Gross would be a significant upgrade. Having a stud offensive line can be one of those things that an organization can take to the playoffs year in year out as it will make it relatively easy to run and pass and flat out dominate the TOP. Combine that with a great defensive line and your talking about a team that should be a perennial contender. I think the Bears could potentially get to that point if they can find a way to get a young guard opposite Beekman and find a stud tackle to go with Williams (plus we have St. Clair, who we could keep as our guard to go with Beekman who will eventually slide to center when Kreutz is done).

What better options are out there. Turner isn't the best OC in the league, but he's far from the worse. He has absolute garbage to work with too, imo.

I would be perfectly content with Simms/Orton/Hanie (or Basanez). I think Hanie has a much bigger arm though and Basanez was much more of a system passer. Thats just me though. If Simms is healthy he'll be able to push Kyle and while neither are proven stars, both to me have the ability to be above average QB's.

How the heck is this a two page thread. This guy won't even break camp with the Bears.

Robinske is a more consistent Roy Williams? Roy Williams was one of the best collegiate receivers ever and when healthy has done pretty good things in the NFL despite having shit throwing him the ball. If Robinske was that good, he'd be going top 10 and we certainly know that won't be the case.

Warner does a really good job, but I fail to see how bringing him in would be that great of a plan. Yes, he'd be the best QB in the history of the franchise but he doesn't exactly have weapons and last I looked we were trying to develop a franchise QB, not get a guy who might have a year or two left.

I was thinking Jerry too. Simeon is a local product and the Bears could have had him early in Angelo's tenure. I wouldn't be shocked if they'd consider him a possibility (especially if they released Ogunley to save some cash).

The cap hit wouldn't change with a trade. Given Tait's cap number, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see him cut or at least try to force a restructure. The Bears are likely going to move St. Clair to RT (and I expect them to resign him) and Williams is going to be the LT (hopefully he'll pan out) and than we might see them select another tackle to get groomed to take over for St. Clair (with St. Clair sliding inside) or the Bears just drafting a guard to go along with Beekman.

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I don't get it. This will actually cost the Bears cap space. At least based upon what everyone has mentioned regarding his contract.

I think the Bears will focus on the offensive side of the ball and i really hope we see them draft two receivers on the first day. Yes, we need help at the WR spot that badly.