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That is the other thing I like. Reid's assistants have in general done well as head coaches. It also is the one thing that scared me about Beliceck...his assistants have generally stunk as head coaches.

Bears appear to be trying really hard to keep Vic. Good sign that none of the defensive assistants have left just yet. Ragone is reportedly staying on as QB coach (which I think is a good thing). Have read a lot of really good things about Ragone. I'm excited about this hire and I also like the pace that Pace moved.

That is most likley the intent and I also believe it is because he is a free agent and he might be on the short list of DC candidates we'd be interested in.

To play devils advocate on Loggains. This year he had no wideouts, a rookie QB (who was extremely raw in terms of rookie QB's) and Glennon. The year before, despite having Cutler (injured most of the year), Barkley, and Hoyer, his offensive ranked 6th in the NFL in yards per play. I agree with AZ, Loggains is not near as bad as others thing, but then again, I'm talking to the person who thinks Fox is the worst coach in franchise history when he clearly isn't. Not even close. Fox is not a bad head coach, period. Is he a great head coach, no, but he's solid and is not going to get in the way of a good roster and in general I'd argue the Bears probably played better then their talent. We maybe lost a game or two we shouldn't have, but we beat quite a few playoff teams this year (and we had no business winning those games) and I really don't think there were many games we lost which we shouldn't have (maybe outside of that Packers game with Hundley). Remember this year we beat Carolina, Baltimore (almost in the playoffs), and Pittsburgh. That is 2 playoff teams and a team who epically choked to not make the playoffs.

Not trying to put you on the spot Grizzly, but I don't understand why do I keep seeing people reference Shaw as a potential OC candidate? He is widely regarded as one of the top 4 or 5 head coaches in all of college football and is on the short list of guys who would be fantastic hires as head coaches in the NFL. He is not leaving his gig at Stanford to become an offensive coordinator in the NFL. Most don't think he'd leave Stanford for a HC job unless you really really threw him some coin. ESPN just had an article out of all their insiders, which asked if they were to hire an NFL head coach (who is not currently employed as an NFL headcoach), who would it be and Shaw was the #2 rated guy they would pick (behind Jim Harbaugh). Interestingly enough McDaniels was 3rd. Note: Shaw is paid $4M a year at Stanford; Fangio is rumord to be one of the 2 or 3 highest paid assistant coaches at around half of that.

To build on this, Cowherd said he had heard that McDaniels was the front-runner in Chicago, Indy, and Giants and that he'll be taking one of those jobs. That said, all speculation. The thought behind Edwards hire definitely fits the narrative that they may want to move fast. Even Pace had made a comment somewhere that he trimmed his initial list so they can be swift and aggressive when they identified their guy. I think they recognize their are a lot of jobs out there and quite frankly a lot of them are pretty attractive and with that, strategy to how you get your target candidate becomes key (since he might be the top guy on a couple other teams lists). I also always think this is a good time for Pace to just get insights on the team and someone from within the division (such as Edwards) should provide good nuggets during the interview on the team. I also go back to the fact that he's a free agent and if we go with an offensive minded head coach, having some dialogue now could smooth the wheels to offering a big contract when said coach becomes a free agent. Same could be said with Defillippo (who is a free agent). The early rumors are that the Bears are going to make a strong push to retain Fangio, which pushes me to think we are going for an offensive guy; That said, I think all of that is premature since we haven't even met with an external coach yet.

Tomorrow the Bears will interview the Vikings DC for the HC job. An interesting note on the Vikings DC is that he is a free agent at the end of the year, so the interview could be just as much about laying the ground work into potentially hiring him as a DC.

Fangio interviewed for the HC job with Pace today.

Shaw or Peterson are the only two college head coaches I'd be interested in. Obviously I would do Harbaugh but that isn't happening.

By the way, for those of you so anti Mcdaniels, I think this article is a good read and puts perspective on how he might have changed/grown up from his initial struggles. The guy is really bright and I'd be ecstatic if we hired him. That said, it has to be a good fit and him and Pace have to be on the same page. No front office / team can succeed long-term if they aren't aligned (imo). http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2666428...-pick-his-spots

I don't think Ted Phillips is bad at his job, the problem is, they have given him some responsibility he shouldn't have. He is good at running the finances of the franchise, etc. He should not be in charge of overseeing who is going to make the football decisions. If the Pace hiring doesn't work, then the Bears should restructure their front office with a president, GM, and HC. High up my list would be Bill Polian (as a president type). Dungy would also be there.

I am actually okay with McDaniels as long as he is okay with Pace having final say on the roster.

That would be really great. The downside of not having an offensive guy as your head coach is that if anyone does anything really good with Trubisky, we'll have a new OC and new system in no time. Kind of like what happened with Gase after year 1 of Fox.

This is business as usual in the NFL. You need the GM to be on the same time horizon as your next head coach, otherwise you aren't going to be able to hire any head coach. The moment the Bears decided they were going to keep Pace, it meant they had to extend him to be able to hire someone. If they didn't extend Pace, we'd be stuck with the least attractive coaching candidates because any of the top guys are going to a place where they aren't worried the GM is going to get axed a year into their new job (cause usually when that happens the next GM is going to want his guy).

Trubisky is playing good in these conditions. Nice to see.

Benny Cunningham is a really good 3rd down back.

Agree with you related to Gordon’s issue.

I disagree with the character matter cause character does matter. That said Gordon always plays hard and while he has issues, I don’t think they are similar to other players. Substance abuse is no joke though and you don’t want that to spread to others. We have massive needs at wideout though, but you need to be a able to depend on those guys.

Sounds good. So we would have glennon at qb and a mediocre record and be wondering how are we ever going to get a QB. No thanks...I’ll take the shot at Trubisky. Bout time we had a gm with the courage to go get the guy he wanted to be our franchise QB.

Toub would be a good head coach. Would be curious to see who he would bring in as coordinators.

I would be all over Bill O’Brien. That would be a hire.

Fuller is having himself a game. He isn’t a number one, but I would pay him.

Josh Gordon would be a guy I would consider taking a chance on. That said he could turn into a disaster.

Pace has drafted quite well. White was a disaster but I can’t blame a guy because of injuries, but other then that he’s found lots of quality players in the draft. We are a good offseason away from being a playoff contender.

Our oline is basically on IR. What do you expect. We don’t have a backup with any experience. Long, Sutton, Compton all out. Massive hurt in the game and obviously Kush hurt in preseason.