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That's about the way I hope things go. I like Ogletree because he's an Urlacher esque converted safety playing middle linebacker. Though nowhere near Urlacher's freakish athleticism. I think he'll be one of those guys that fly up the draft board because of his rare skill-set as a LB. He'll need to bulk up a bit though. He'd be the perfect replacement, if there are any replacements for Brian. They definitely need to sign a tackle via free agency, and then if they're lucky, maybe take Fluker in the 2nd. They say he's capable of playing all over, and has the ability to play in whatever scheme, man or zone. I'm not generally a fan of taking guards in the 1st round, but Warmack is another interesting prospect you have to at least think about if you're the Bears.

I think if we were to reach the playoffs and lose to Greenbay yet again, that might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. So if there ever was a scenario in which the Bears make the postseason and Lovie is still fired, it would be that one.

A loss pretty much solidifies the Lovie era coming to a close, and a win puts it on hold for another week. I think they'll win this week and I'm undecided on week 17. I think the Lions may have given up. 10-6 still feels like it'd be the likely scenario, but we'll see if that's good enough to get them in the postseason.

Yeah, I think it starts with just being able to get a play in. It's a joke that the last two coordinators have not managed to do the most simplest part of their duties, which is actually calling a play, and they can't even do that right.. Progress would be us not having to burn a timeout at any point in the game because of play calling.

College positions don't really matter in the NFL. Especially on the offensive line, where there is constant change from college to the NFL. Carimi might have been more familiar on the left side at Wisconsin, but his supposed strength was in his run blocking, which translated to more of a right tackle in the NFL than left tackle. I have seen absolutely nothing from him, based on his play this season, that would allow me to believe he would be any better by switching sides. It's one thing if a person has failed on the left, the more difficult side, and put him on the right, than it is the other way around. How is playing against better pass rushers suppose to help him do something he's never been able to do before, which is blocking? Moving his feet? Containing speed? etc..

I've got my Madden hat on. I say fire them all regardless of what happens in the postseason. I once fired Lovie Smith after a Superbowl victory .

I looked at some more. The Bengals with Marvin Lewis are 24-54-1 since 2003 (includes this season) The Panthers with John Fox were 19-49 from 2002-2010 The Jets with Rex Ryan are 7-16 from 2009-2012 (includes this season) The Texans with Gary Kubiak are 18-33 from 2006-2012 (includes this season) The Falcons with Mike Smith are 16-15 from 2008-2012 (includes this season) The Eagles with Andy Reid are 34-54 from 1999-2012 (includes this season) The Titans/Oilers with Jeff Fisher were 39-61 from 1994-2010 Jim Harbaugh is 8-3 against teams above .500 since taking over the San Francisco 49'ers

Coach Stats I just used that Query and sorted it out based on Opp record being above .500 and then counted up the W/L from 2004-2011/2012.

I'd take Tim Tebow, as a TE. Get him a little training at the position and I think he'd have a shot at being a pretty good playmaking TE.

According to Pro-Football reference the Bears are 18-34 against teams that finished the season above .500 during Lovie's tenure as Head Coach. 21-40 if you count this season even though it's not technically finished. Not sure how it stands up next to some of the other coaches in the league, but I imagine it's pretty bad.

The question is, do you really want them to? It's hard for me to say no, but at the same time, I want Lovie Smith gone for good. If we reach the playoffs, then he's probably back no matter how bad we look. Teams just don't fire coaches that make the postseason that often.

They act like they have never been to a game outside of their own stadium. EVERY team gets booed just as much, if not more than Chicago fans boo their team for poor performance. Both of them need to shut up and play football.

He's like 75 years old.

Michael Bush to IR now according to Sean Jensen. This season just keeps getting worse.

The time of the game and where they were on the field, given the situation don't allow you to be cute with the ball. The chances of the Bears actually tying the game with no timeouts and being backed up on their own 3 yard line are incredibly slim. You don't have time to wait for things to develop. The ball needs to get out because you can't waste any time. He danced around the pocket for a day and a half without even attempting any kind of pass. He literally could have done ANYTHING else and it would have been a better decision than what ultimately happened, because taking a sack essentially ends the game. Waiting all day in the pocket isn't necessarily a good thing either. There were really 2 options. Either take the 10-12 yard chunks in the middle of the field 3-4 times, and spike the ball to stop the clock, or hope for a lot of luck by getting a bunch of yards in one play via the deep pass. He had the time to throw it down field. Hell, he had time to tie both of his shoes. If they weren't going to run any short-intermediate plays and just go for the long pass, which it appeared like that's what they were doing, then he should have launched the ball in the air during the 12 seconds he had in the pocket before being taken down. Nobody was going to be open down the field anyways because the Packers coverage wasn't going to allow it. If you're going to throw it, then THROW it, and hope you have another Brandon Marshall/Seattle miracle to get you into position to take another shot at the endzone before time runs out.

I don't even have a problem with what he said about the fans and media. Why does he have to like them? I don't even know why the fans would care about how players view them. I just have a problem with how he views the booing. You get booed when you suck and lose 5 games in a row after a 7-1 start. If you want it to stop, then win games.

Not a bad list. This is just me personally, but I automatically am disqualifying any defensive guy for head coach. I think it's time for the franchise to move away from a defensive dominant team to an offensive one, because that's what wins Superbowls now. Offense acts. Defense reacts. I want someone that can bring an offense out on the field that will dictate to the defense what they are able to do, and not the other way around. Also, if you get a head coach who knows offense, you won't have to deal with anymore changes in philosophy in case the OC decides to leave for another gig after a big year. Lord knows Cutler needs this in the worst way. Without going in depth about my list, I have basically 3 tiers. Top Tier: 1- Sean Payton 2- Bruce Arians 3- Mike Holmgren Middle Tier: 1- Greg Roman 2- Rob Chudzinski 3- John Gruden Lower Tier: 1- Bill Obrien 2- Jay Gruden 3- Mike McCoy

They should have fired Lovie back in 2009 if they had any balls. They could have ended up with Shanahan.

meh.. The push off, if that's what you want to call it, was far less egregious than some of the previous ones. I've seen worse plays that weren't called. Everything is arbitrary with figuring out what is and what's not pass interference anyways. If they actually called pass interference everytime a receiver made an extension with his arm, then it should be called on virtually every pass attempt where the ball is thrown down field. It's whatever though. I'm not going to blame the officials for being the exact cause that kept the Bears from winning the game. They made some horrible calls, both ways, though I'd say the Bears got the shorter end of the stick on a lot of them.

Wrong. I don't care how many players were rushing, at some point you have to do something. You can't stand around forever and not do anything. Get ouside the pocket, take off and run, throw the ball down field etc.. Pretty much anything other than falling down and taking a sack. At least allow something to happen. Taking a sack is the worst thing possible because you don't even give yourself a chance to win the game.

What an idiot. Does he seriously not know why the fans are booing them? Is he that dull to not realize you probably shouldn't go from 7-1 to 8-6 and expect a resounding support from the fans? If he is, then I don't know what to say to him. He and Conte can both screw off. WIN GAMES!

We will be 10-6 and screw up the order again this year.

I thought the one on the touchdown was highly questionable. Not sure it was as much of a push off as it was a slip. The first one they missed, where Jeffery grabbed the facemask wasn't called. The first one they called on him though was legit. However the 3rd one near the sidelines was ridiculous, as was the one they didn't call on Sam Shields at the end of the game.

+1 As always, it's a collective effort. Kelvin Hayden and DJ Moore were absolutely disgusting today in pass coverage. You were right to bring up the extra 6 points missed from the FG kicker, and probably a few more not attempted, thanks to his struggles, the defense does not get to be free from blame here. That said, you still have to put up more than 13 points on the other side. Especially against a defense that's not really any good. Cutler still makes that one mistake far too often in big games. That throw to Hester is simply inexcusable. I don't care what route he was supposed to run, Cutler saw him, even pump faked once before releasing the ball, I guess expecting Hester to magically appear in front of Casey Hayward. He wasn't nearly as bad as he was in week 2, but then again, we only threw it 21 damn times all together, so he didn't have as many opportunities to throw more picks. Which leads me to Matt Forte. As I mentioned in the game thread, He had 58 of his 69 rushing yards in the 1st half. 35 in the 1st quarter. Whether it was the Packers making adjustments, the Bears blocking worse as the game went on, Forte not running as good as he's capable of, or a mixture of everything, you can't be this inept in the run game. You just can't do it. It's a joke. There's a reason why he's not in on most goal line situations. What the hell is he doing all that god damn dancing for? HIT THE freakin HOLE! GET IN THE ENDZONE. That frustrated me more than anything in this game. Watching that garbage from the 1 yard line. This is what we paid him for? Please... The offensive line had someone new in on seemingly every other snap I couldn't keep tracked. Carimi got benched. AGAIN. Doesn't speak much about his future. Jonathon Scott had a pretty good game. 2nd time he's been heads up on recovering a fumble. Still looked like the same old Bears offensive line though. Can't hold their blocks consistently enough each game. The last sack of the game was pretty hilarious though. Cutler took about 18 seconds to eventually fall down and not get rid of the ball against 2 people rushing. Perfect way to end such a predictable game. It was almost stereotypical Bears/Packers with Cutler at quarterback.