Pixote Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Makes sense for active roster on game day Whitehair has more position versatility and can backup all 3 interior spots. Maybe Carter was active too in that last game and didn't get the nod? Nah, just found it, he was inactive. I like the idea of getting a good OG prospect in the pipeline in this draft and I like Zak Zinter out of Mich. He had a badly broken leg late in the season, both tibia and fibula so his recovery is going to take a full year. Teams that need help this season will have to go elsewhere in the draft so he will drop. If the long term prognosis is good then we have insurance with Davis to hold down the fort until he's ready, even if that means a full season on IR. But we could have a stud at RG in 2025. If we get a comp pick #100 for Ian Cunningham leaving, then Zinter is my target there. Bears inactives WR Darnell Mooney RB D'Onta Foreman DB Greg Stroman Jr. OL Ja'Tyre Carter QB Tyson Bagent DB Quindell Johnson DB Jaylon Johnson I know nothing about this guy, Zak Zinter, but if he had a serious injury that may require him to miss the entire 2024 NFL season, wouldn't he be at best a late day 3 pick or an UDFA? Seriously, educate me, I know nothing about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 8 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Makes sense for active roster on game day Whitehair has more position versatility and can backup all 3 interior spots. Maybe Carter was active too in that last game and didn't get the nod? Nah, just found it, he was inactive. I like the idea of getting a good OG prospect in the pipeline in this draft and I like Zak Zinter out of Mich. He had a badly broken leg late in the season, both tibia and fibula so his recovery is going to take a full year. Teams that need help this season will have to go elsewhere in the draft so he will drop. If the long term prognosis is good then we have insurance with Davis to hold down the fort until he's ready, even if that means a full season on IR. But we could have a stud at RG in 2025. If we get a comp pick #100 for Ian Cunningham leaving, then Zinter is my target there. Bears inactives WR Darnell Mooney RB D'Onta Foreman DB Greg Stroman Jr. OL Ja'Tyre Carter QB Tyson Bagent DB Quindell Johnson DB Jaylon Johnson Not sure how accurate it is but several simulators have Zinter ranked low which seems normal with injury recovery figured in. We need a starting OC and another OG and OT to compete and keep building depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, Pixote said: I know nothing about this guy, Zak Zinter, but if he had a serious injury that may require him to miss the entire 2024 NFL season, wouldn't he be at best a late day 3 pick or an UDFA? Seriously, educate me, I know nothing about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 54 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Thanks! I can see why you would like him to be drafted by Poles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Pixote said: Thanks! I can see why you would like him to be drafted by Poles. you could be right he might drop well into Day 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 15 Author Report Share Posted January 15 It bugs me that Harbaugh is interested in going to NFL and Bears didn’t roll up the brinx trick for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: It bugs me that Harbaugh is interested in going to NFL and Bears didn’t roll up the brinx trick for him. or even try. "Eberflus is not only worth keeping, he is the best option out there" really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 9 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: or even try. "Eberflus is not only worth keeping, he is the best option out there" really. 🤢🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 10 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: or even try. "Eberflus is not only worth keeping, he is the best option out there" really. Really odd to stick with meh after two seasons of meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Poles hired Flus, why would he abandon him after 2 years of a 4 year plan? Poles knows he was going to lose a few years before his rebuild starts showing results. Poles created the situation for Flus to not be successful. If owners expected GMs and coaches to be expected to win in two years, they would only give them 2 year contracts. He sees progress and a team that loves their coach. When Sweat got here he made light of that saying it wasn't like that in Washington. Everyone wants to compare coaches to be best case comparisons. Reality is it's a struggle to win in the NFL. Is Blelichick or Harbaugh better choices? Of course they are, but their not coming here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted January 15 Author Report Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Poles hired Flus, why would he abandon him after 2 years of a 4 year plan? Poles knows he was going to lose a few years before his rebuild starts showing results. Poles created the situation for Flus to not be successful. If owners expected GMs and coaches to be expected to win in two years, they would only give them 2 year contracts. He sees progress and a team that loves their coach. When Sweat got here he made light of that saying it wasn't like that in Washington. Everyone wants to compare coaches to be best case comparisons. Reality is it's a struggle to win in the NFL. Is Blelichick or Harbaugh better choices? Of course they are, but they’re not coming here. Because better options are out there. I guess I go back to - poles made a choice. He also traded for Claypool and thankfully he said this isn’t working and adjusted his plan. With Flus, if a major upgrade is there - you go get it. That is how you build greatness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 If you hire a coach on a four year plan, and they make a ton of unforced errors, you fire them before the plan is over. If the coach was making good choices, but losing because the roster wasnt there, thats one thing, but when they are making bad choices on their own, there is no reason to keep them. If Im at a restaurant, and the appetizers are massively undercooked, and the entree is completely undercooked - I dont need to order dessert to know the meal sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: If you hire a coach on a four year plan, and they make a ton of unforced errors, you fire them before the plan is over. If the coach was making good choices, but losing because the roster wasnt there, thats one thing, but when they are making bad choices on their own, there is no reason to keep them. If Im at a restaurant, and the appetizers are massively undercooked, and the entree is completely undercooked - I dont need to order dessert to know the meal sucked. Amen. Flus made too many bonehead coaching errors throughout his second season to be patted on the back for "stability". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, ChileBear said: Amen. Flus made too many bonehead coaching errors throughout his second season to be patted on the back for "stability". Exactly! Does the man who sets fire to the building get credit for being the one that puts the fire out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: If you hire a coach on a four year plan, and they make a ton of unforced errors, you fire them before the plan is over. If the coach was making good choices, but losing because the roster wasnt there, thats one thing, but when they are making bad choices on their own, there is no reason to keep them. If Im at a restaurant, and the appetizers are massively undercooked, and the entree is completely undercooked - I dont need to order dessert to know the meal sucked. Right?! It's the Kenny Rogers...know when to hold em, know when to fold em. This is time to fold. Is there one team of the other 31 that would hire fLose today as HC if we were to sever ties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 I think he had a four year deal, and the Bears are only ever willing to eat one year of salary. We kept Nagy too long, we are keeping Eberflus too long etc. And it's DUMB because youve got a quarter billion dollars of players money on the field EVERY year, and if you eat an extra year of Eberflus, its nothing comparatively, but if you WIN with a better coach youll sell shirts and your franchise value will go up. With Harbaugh out there sniffing around, and some other big names available, to not even consider them is just malpractice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 6 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: If you hire a coach on a four year plan, and they make a ton of unforced errors, you fire them before the plan is over. If the coach was making good choices, but losing because the roster wasnt there, thats one thing, but when they are making bad choices on their own, there is no reason to keep them. If Im at a restaurant, and the appetizers are massively undercooked, and the entree is completely undercooked - I dont need to order dessert to know the meal sucked. Apparently Poles likes his food under cooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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