AZ54 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 At this point Jayden Daniels is QB1 for me. I reviewed some more Drake Maye film today and I agree with the assessment that he's really talented but he needs a year to learn. In terms of QBs ready to play year 1, which is obviously what Poles sees since he traded away Fields, we have 2: Wiliams or Daniels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 AZ54, cool - so a gentleman's bet? You're on record saying you'd take Daniels over Williams, and I'm the opposite. Let's see how they do the first year, then after year 2 and year 3, and see which prediction worked out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, BearFan PHX said: AZ54, cool - so a gentleman's bet? You're on record saying you'd take Daniels over Williams, and I'm the opposite. Let's see how they do the first year, then after year 2 and year 3, and see which prediction worked out? Sure. I don't normally bet because I usually lose, but maybe we meet up across town and the loser buys the whiskey. I'd say these two QBs are going 1-2 in this draft and Washington has a decent team, as do we in many aspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 5 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Sure. I don't normally bet because I usually lose, but maybe we meet up across town and the loser buys the whiskey. I'd say these two QBs are going 1-2 in this draft and Washington has a decent team, as do we in many aspects. it seems a fair comparison, although I wouldnt be shocked if Washington took Maye either. I'd meet you and shake your hand for sure. I don't usually drink and then drive, even though everyone I know seems to do it well, maybe because even though I've been driving since I was 16, I never owned a car in NYC and rarely drove except on vacation and visiting family back in Chicago, so when I got to Arizona, I didnt usually have drinks with dinner if i was driving. When my friend drives and we go to bars, then I am good for many whiskey shots for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 On 3/19/2024 at 2:16 PM, Mongo3451 said: I'll honestly be good with Williams, Maye, Daniels, McCarthy or Penix. We're in a good spot... If we can get three 1's and two 2's I will take any of the three. Noting less give me Williams. How much did 49''s trade for Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 17 minutes ago, Bill said: If we can get three 1's and two 2's I will take any of the three. Noting less give me Williams. How much did 49''s trade for Wilson Trey Lance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 This is interesting...and I haven't heard this anywhere else. Now Daniels gets maybe 5% of the press coverage that Caleb Williams does so this stuff doesn't catch fire in the media in the same way. I just find it an odd twist to the rumors now that Daniels is reportedly at the top of their list at #2. Except for the report that came out after J.J. McCarthy's pro day saying they liked him at #2. Musical chairs with the QBs in the media all the way up to draft day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 Doing more research on the QBs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 27 Author Report Share Posted March 27 9 minutes ago, AZ54 said: This is interesting...and I haven't heard this anywhere else. Now Daniels gets maybe 5% of the press coverage that Caleb Williams does so this stuff doesn't catch fire in the media in the same way. I just find it an odd twist to the rumors now that Daniels is reportedly at the top of their list at #2. Except for the report that came out after J.J. McCarthy's pro day saying they liked him at #2. Musical chairs with the QBs in the media all the way up to draft day. If I hear this right Peters comments were before the 2023 season that could have changed but if true, I get why Daniels wouldn't like Peters. I'm not sure any rumors can be taken seriously before the draft. No one is telling you exactly what they're going to do. Even Poles with the first pick, stated he's taking Caleb but everything points to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 8 hours ago, Stinger226 said: If I hear this right Peters comments were before the 2023 season that could have changed but if true, I get why Daniels wouldn't like Peters. I'm not sure any rumors can be taken seriously before the draft. No one is telling you exactly what they're going to do. Even Poles with the first pick, stated he's taking Caleb but everything points to that. Of course it s al rumor and innuendos. Have you got video or a link to that statement from Poles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 27 Author Report Share Posted March 27 31 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Of course it s al rumor and innuendos. Have you got video or a link to that statement from Poles? I totally stated that wrong, ( he hasn't decided yet on the first pick but everything points to him taking CW ) IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaBear Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 This is interesting. https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1773012995896926413?s=46&t=y8KKc_ixHFBLIoj8KLFAzA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 54 minutes ago, OmahaBear said: This is interesting. https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1773012995896926413?s=46&t=y8KKc_ixHFBLIoj8KLFAzA There was no mention of the Bears, but I did read elsewhere that Flus was one of the many HCs present. I'm not sure who else from the Bears attended. Still, the Bears are not listed among the scheduled visits. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaBear Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 11 hours ago, Pixote said: There was no mention of the Bears, but I did read elsewhere that Flus was one of the many HCs present. I'm not sure who else from the Bears attended. Still, the Bears are not listed among the scheduled visits. Interesting. Yea that's what interesting.. I know the Bears were there, but the fact that they were not meeting with him is interesting. Wonder if they are doing a secrete meeting with someone, as I don't think they have had a meeting with Williams either.. or have they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, OmahaBear said: s I don't think they have had a meeting with Williams either.. or have they? I believe the next known meeting is the "Top 30" one scheduled where Williams (so far not Daniels) and others will come to Halas Hall. I have read elsewhere that speculation is that McCarthy may get an invite too. So far the list only has three players listed on it but obviously will grow more in the coming days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 28 Author Report Share Posted March 28 48 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: I believe the next known meeting is the "Top 30" one scheduled where Williams (so far not Daniels) and others will come to Halas Hall. I have read elsewhere that speculation is that McCarthy may get an invite too. So far the list only has three players listed on it but obviously will grow more in the coming days. https://nfltraderumors.co/2024-nfl-draft-prospect-visit-tracker/ Here is a visit tracker that has more names on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 Slowly the talk of Jayden Daniels being the best QB in this draft gains traction. I haven't changed my position. I'm so far off the consensus mock because I'm still the only fan here who will trade back to #2 and take Daniels and the picks. I'd take Daniels at #1 and still be happy but I believe I can make that trade happen. Even the Bears fan I met at a my granddaughters softball game agreed with Daniels being the best so there's at least 2 of us in the multiverse LOL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWbtESDDezQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C53IuDnGczM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uxx0_v9t04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 18 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Slowly the talk of Jayden Daniels being the best QB in this draft gains traction. I haven't changed my position. I'm so far off the consensus mock because I'm still the only fan here who will trade back to #2 and take Daniels and the picks. I'd take Daniels at #1 and still be happy but I believe I can make that trade happen. Even the Bears fan I met at a my granddaughters softball game agreed with Daniels being the best so there's at least 2 of us in the multiverse LOL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWbtESDDezQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C53IuDnGczM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uxx0_v9t04 I wouldn't be mad at all. I like five QBs in this draft. So, if extra picks come with a trade down, it could be better. Caleb seems to be the lock though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 I think Daniels has a lot of physical tools, and throws a great ball, but doesnt read defenses. I predict that he will be a massive bust in the NFL, kind of like how Justin ended up. So at least I'm on the record, and we can see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 At this point, it would take Washington's incredibly rich trade offer to convince Poles to trade down. If they offered something completely crazy such as this, I'd trade: This year's 1st & both 2nd round picks, along with their 1st rd selections for 2025 & 2026. I believe it would take something that crazy for Poles to trade the #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 10 minutes ago, Pixote said: At this point, it would take Washington's incredibly rich trade offer to convince Poles to trade down. If they offered something completely crazy such as this, I'd trade: This year's 1st & both 2nd round picks, along with their 1st rd selections for 2025 & 2026. I believe it would take something that crazy for Poles to trade the #1. *IF* Caleb is who we think he is, that wouldnt be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 10 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: *IF* Caleb is who we think he is, that wouldnt be enough. *IF* Caleb will develop into the QB I envision, you are absolutely correct. Damn, I hate *IFs* LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 4 minutes ago, Pixote said: *IF* Caleb will develop into the QB I envision, you are absolutely correct. Damn, I hate *IFs* LOL me too! right now he is a "generational" prospect. Soon he will be in the league, and there are good reasons to believe he's gonna be an excellent NFL QB, but today, they are are all nothing in the NFL (yet)! Right now, every rookie QB is tied for last place in the NFL lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Pixote said: *IF* Caleb will develop into the QB I envision, you are absolutely correct. Damn, I hate *IFs* LOL As Larry Bird said, "if ifs was fifths, we'd all be drunks." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted April 9 Author Report Share Posted April 9 3 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: As Larry Bird said, "if ifs was fifths, we'd all be drunks." There's risk to everything you do . I guess it's about the highest ceiling for the lowest risky pick. If you look at 30 visits list: 1/3 is clearly about the nine pick. 1/3 of visits are for third and fourth round type picks. They're 1/3 that clearly only can be gotten with the second round pick. Does that tell us anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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