Mongo3451 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, AZ54 said: Not sure which angle you saw but on the film breakdown I only see the DB look back once and then for the last ten yards of that play his eyes are only on DJ. Yes, because he saw the ball in the air. After that he was making a play. I can't debate whether the contact the DB made was PI, because we've seen that "called/not called". I just did see enough of the DB affecting DJ. I'll stand on the face guarding part and that he was playing the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago A thing of beauty... https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1GvxnLP5Tn/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luciano Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said: A thing of beauty... https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1GvxnLP5Tn/ it is that. one comment... you are wrong about that not being PI. that has been pass interference for 60+ years. look where he places his left hand... he draped it over tj's shoulder and was using it to impede moore's momentum to the ball. that is NOT reaching for an equal right to catch the ball, that is holding any day, every day, of the week. even if you say he was reaching for the ball and has an equal right to do so, you are wrong again. you do NOT have a right to go after the ball by climbing onto a receivers back to do so before the ball arrives. it is just not done, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Lucky Luciano said: it is that. one comment... you are wrong about that not being PI. that has been pass interference for 60+ years. look where he places his left hand... he draped it over tj's shoulder and was using it to impede moore's momentum to the ball. that is NOT reaching for an equal right to catch the ball, that is holding any day, every day, of the week. even if you say he was reaching for the ball and has an equal right to do so, you are wrong again. you do NOT have a right to go after the ball by climbing onto a receivers back to do so before the ball arrives. it is just not done, period. I think the question is, if DJ doesn't catch that ball, do we see a late flag thrown. Feels like sometimes that happens in NFL now (akin to NBA calling a late whistle to see if a shooter made the bucket or not). Not saying right approach. Happened in Lions game yesterday where Steelers though they won the game about a minute earlier but than after the incomplete pass you had a bunch of late flags fly for PI (this was on a 4th down earlier in that same sequence). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago DJ kind of worried me when he let the ball hit the ground when he laid out like he was dead. Hold onto the ball for a few more seconds so there is no way they can say he didn't "complete the catch". I felt like he let it go pretty quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, adam said: DJ kind of worried me when he let the ball hit the ground when he laid out like he was dead. Hold onto the ball for a few more seconds so there is no way they can say he didn't "complete the catch". I felt like he let it go pretty quick. That thought crossed my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted 39 minutes ago Report Share Posted 39 minutes ago 1 hour ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: That thought crossed my mind Same here. Heck, my gut reaction was it was an incomplete pass. Then I saw the celebration and refs indicating a TD. Surprised they didn't do a replay. Guess they were able to see it was clearly a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 34 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 34 minutes ago 1 hour ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: That thought crossed my mind 2 minutes ago, Pixote said: Same here. Heck, my gut reaction was it was an incomplete pass. Then I saw the celebration and refs indicating a TD. Surprised they didn't do a replay. Guess they were able to see it was clearly a TD. After the Zach Miller TD, you have to make sure there is no doubt, especially when the ground is involved and the defender is contacting you. DJ's play was too close for comfort in my opinion especially considering how many calls have went against the Bears this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted 21 minutes ago Report Share Posted 21 minutes ago This is a pass interference. Not called... https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BYqUW1552/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted 19 minutes ago Report Share Posted 19 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Lucky Luciano said: it is that. one comment... you are wrong about that not being PI. that has been pass interference for 60+ years. look where he places his left hand... he draped it over tj's shoulder and was using it to impede moore's momentum to the ball. that is NOT reaching for an equal right to catch the ball, that is holding any day, every day, of the week. even if you say he was reaching for the ball and has an equal right to do so, you are wrong again. you do NOT have a right to go after the ball by climbing onto a receivers back to do so before the ball arrives. it is just not done, period. I could argue why you are wrong, but no need. We simply interpret the rule differently. It could go either way, period. Here's the rule... NFL Pass Interference (PI) is a penalty for illegally hindering a player's chance to catch a forward pass beyond one yard past the line of scrimmage, with defensive PI resulting in the ball placed at the spot of the foul (a "spot foul") plus an automatic first down, while offensive PI moves the ball back (usually 10 yards) and negates scores, with both types being difficult to officiate, leading to frequent controversy and inconsistent calls despite past experimental review rules. Key Aspects of Pass Interference Definition: An act by a player that significantly hinders an eligible player's opportunity to catch a forward pass, occurring more than one yard past the line of scrimmage. Offensive PI: An offensive player interferes with a defender. Often involves setting illegal blocks (picks) for teammates. Defensive PI: A defender impedes an offensive player from catching the ball. Penalties Offensive PI: 10-yard penalty from the previous spot, loss of down (or negates scores if on a scoring play). Defensive PI: Spot foul (ball placed where foul occurred) and automatic first down. Controversy & Rules Subjectivity: Pass interference is notoriously hard for officials to call consistently, leading to debates. Review Rule (Temporary): The NFL experimented with allowing coaches to challenge PI calls and non-calls in 2019 but did not make it a permanent rule. Recent Examples: Controversial calls on offensive pass interference in the final minutes of a 2025 Lions game highlighted ongoing debates about the rules' application, as noted by NFL.com and Detroit Free Press. Key Takeaway: While the rule aims to ensure fair play for receivers, the subjective nature of judging "significant hindrance" often creates inconsistent results, making it one of football's most debated penalties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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