Pick #25

[Alaskan Grizzly]

Watching the pass rushers on Miami tonight makes me think one of them (Bain or Messidor) maybe should end up a Bear? 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

6 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

Watching the pass rushers on Miami tonight makes me think one of them (Bain or Messidor) maybe should end up a Bear? 

Bain is a stud but I think he’s supposed to be like a top 10 pick. 

[Mongo3451]

40 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

Bain is a stud but I think he’s supposed to be like a top 10 pick. 

Yeah, Bain will be top 10 easy.  We could always trade up.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

31 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Yeah, Bain will be top 10 easy.  We could always trade up.

Would have to get to #3.  It would take possibly 2 firsts and a player.  Pretty steep, but if he is Myles Garrett 2.0 might be worth it.

[AZ54]

7 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I think he's only 25-26, just entering his prime.  Depends on concerns about future health that I think will affect re-signing him. 

His concussion injury was nearly as serious as they come.  It took an immense amount of courage for him to get back on the field.  It has impacted how he plays the game.  I think even the rest of the league will look at him as a one year FA.  
 

however it shakes out this defense needs one more really good downhill player among the back 7.  Kyle Gordon can be that guy on one side.  Can add an impact LB or S will help to generate more negative plays.   

[DABEARSDABOMB]

54 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

His concussion injury was nearly as serious as they come.  It took an immense amount of courage for him to get back on the field.  It has impacted how he plays the game.  I think even the rest of the league will look at him as a one year FA.  
 

however it shakes out this defense needs one more really good downhill player among the back 7.  Kyle Gordon can be that guy on one side.  Can add an impact LB or S will help to generate more negative plays.   

If Jaquan is willing to go short I could see both being back but right now I’m guessing just Byard. 

[Stinger226]

Are all these players the players DA wants for his style defense? Most were here with only a few added. I can see him having more input in this draft since it will be mainly a defensive draft. 

Anyone more familiar with his style? I read he likes big DEs, speed at LB, and tall corners. Was Hypoplite and Frazier influenced by DA?

A lot coaches may come and go but I think DA is here for the long haul. He's had two HC jobs and failed, probably not going anywhere.

[AZ54]

Early on this season he said pass rush doesn’t come from the edge it comes up the middle. 
 

I’ll assume bigger DEs that can do both run support and compress the pocket so there is no QB escape path.  

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

Early on this season he said pass rush doesn’t come from the edge it comes up the middle. 
 

I’ll assume bigger DEs that can do both run support and compress the pocket so there is no QB escape path.  

Hopefully, Turner is one of those guys.  Other than that, we have zero interior guys with an ounce of twitch.  I proposed a trade with KC to send them DJ for Chris Jones, plus anything else they may reasonably need.

Not sure about free agency, but the draft always has these guys.  Poles has been crap at finding them though.

[adam]

10 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Hopefully, Turner is one of those guys.  Other than that, we have zero interior guys with an ounce of twitch.  I proposed a trade with KC to send them DJ for Chris Jones, plus anything else they may reasonably need.

Not sure about free agency, but the draft always has these guys.  Poles has been crap at finding them though.

KC's cap is screwed. I don't think they can trade Jones because him and Mahomes are basically the only two players that you can get cap relief from with a restructure. If they trade him, they immediately get a $30M dead money cap hit, which doesn't really help their situation. 

I have seen Simmons mentioned from TEN, but TEN has the most cap space, so moving him doesn't make much sense if it is strictly for cap purposes. 

There are several teams that fit the criteria who are in the need of cap relief and trading a player would provide that:  Vikings, Cowboys, and Dolphins

 

[Mongo3451]

16 minutes ago, adam said:

KC's cap is screwed. I don't think they can trade Jones because him and Mahomes are basically the only two players that you can get cap relief from with a restructure. If they trade him, they immediately get a $30M dead money cap hit, which doesn't really help their situation. 

I have seen Simmons mentioned from TEN, but TEN has the most cap space, so moving him doesn't make much sense if it is strictly for cap purposes. 

There are several teams that fit the criteria who are in the need of cap relief and trading a player would provide that:  Vikings, Cowboys, and Dolphins

 

Yes, but they also get 15 mil in relief.  I don't see how they can play with his contract to get more relief than that. (Without putting them further in hell down the road). DJ would give them a needed receiver at a wash in price.  2027 gives them better relief.