To bring this back to a normal tone, we are all giving our opinions, its not a competition. Until the games are played nothing is a given. Its okay not to agree.

7 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

To bring this back to a normal tone, we are all giving our opinions, its not a competition. Until the games are played nothing is a given. Its okay not to agree.

disagreeing is fine, being sarcastic and obnoxious isnt. Or actually it is, as long as we all can do it.

The tone of this board will be up to the people on it and how they choose to interact. As long as its the same for anyone, i will go whatever the speed of traffic is. If its polite, I would LOVE that. If it's chippy, I'll return in kind too.

And Stinger, Im not talking about you, youve been fine for a while. I disagree with you, but you havent been rude or sarcastic.

55 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

disagreeing is fine, being sarcastic and obnoxious isnt. Or actually it is, as long as we all can do it.

The tone of this board will be up to the people on it and how they choose to interact. As long as its the same for anyone, i will go whatever the speed of traffic is. If its polite, I would LOVE that. If it's chippy, I'll return in kind too.

And Stinger, Im not talking about you, youve been fine for a while. I disagree with you, but you havent been rude or sarcastic.

You don't see it. You, literally, suggested that if everyone that cares to post on this site regularly should buy the all-22. Maybe if we all had it we would agree more. Since you're the the only one that has it, you're suggesting that we get on your level in order for us all to agree. You're subtle arrogance doesn't go unnoticed to educated readers. I don't get angry or butthurt like you do. I simply call it and you, as I see it and you. When I'm being a dick, I do not hide it. I'll end with, I like you just fine and enjoy your insight. I'll continue to bust your balls when I feel like it. BOHICA...🥂

2 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

You don't see it. You, literally, suggested that if everyone that cares to post on this site regularly should buy the all-22. Maybe if we all had it we would agree more. Since you're the the only one that has it, you're suggesting that we get on your level in order for us all to agree. You're subtle arrogance doesn't go unnoticed to educated readers. I don't get angry or butthurt like you do. I simply call it and you, as I see it and you. When I'm being a dick, I do not hide it. I'll end with, I like you just fine and enjoy your insight. I'll continue to bust your balls when I feel like it. BOHICA...🥂

Go for it, just dont whine when you get it back.

For you to to think that me suggesting you watch the footage and come up with your own point of view is arrogance on my point, you really have to be butthurt and twisting things. I respect your opinion, I just wonder if youd see what i saw if you watched the same tape.

Arrogance would be me saying I see the film better than you, that i know more about it or something. But i routinely say it isnt rocket science, its not ME, its the film. For any of us.

What I see looks kinda obvious to me, so I naively think we might agree more if we all saw it. So that would mean I would respect your point of view, and think wed share it. If i thought you were a dumbass, and I was so far above you, then Id think "even if you saw the all 22 you still wouldnt see it ya moron" but I dont think that. So youre just interpreting me all wrong.

Youre so busy trying to prove Im a jerk (Im not) that youre forced to take ridiculous positions. Im like some kind of ghost in your head LOL Im just a guy that likes the Bears. People that know me say im nice. I take care of my family, friends and neighbors. I'm a good dad.

I knew a lot of people like you in NYC. I got it, youre tough. Cool. Me too.

This whole thing is nonsense. If you speak roughly, Ill answer back that way. Ill assume youre enjoying it. If you decide to speak respectfully and normally, then thats what youll get back from me.

Its really your choice. Just like watching the tape would be too. its not such a big deal dude.

On 8/22/2026 at 6:21 PM, BearFan PHX said:

Go for it, just dont whine when you get it back.

For you to to think that me suggesting you watch the footage and come up with your own point of view is arrogance on my point, you really have to be butthurt and twisting things. I respect your opinion, I just wonder if youd see what i saw if you watched the same tape.

Arrogance would be me saying I see the film better than you, that i know more about it or something. But i routinely say it isnt rocket science, its not ME, its the film. For any of us.

What I see looks kinda obvious to me, so I naively think we might agree more if we all saw it. So that would mean I would respect your point of view, and think wed share it. If i thought you were a dumbass, and I was so far above you, then Id think "even if you saw the all 22 you still wouldnt see it ya moron" but I dont think that. So youre just interpreting me all wrong.

Youre so busy trying to prove Im a jerk (Im not) that youre forced to take ridiculous positions. Im like some kind of ghost in your head LOL Im just a guy that likes the Bears. People that know me say im nice. I take care of my family, friends and neighbors. I'm a good dad.

I knew a lot of people like you in NYC. I got it, youre tough. Cool. Me too.

This whole thing is nonsense. If you speak roughly, Ill answer back that way. Ill assume youre enjoying it. If you decide to speak respectfully and normally, then thats what youll get back from me.

Its really your choice. Just like watching the tape would be too. its not such a big deal dude.

I dont think you intended anything by this statement, but it does come across with an arrogant tone. Two people can look at something and not have the exact same opinion. All 22 gets you a chance to watch more plays but it doesnt make people better at watching film. People can still disagree on a particular block or mistake. I take in everyone's opinion and then form my own that doesnt mean we will all agree the same.

(So, if we are all superiorly informed, then we can all agree more? Thank you. I'll try to relearn football. Cheers 🥂).

6 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I dont think you intended anything by this statement, but it does come across with an arrogant tone. Two people can look at something and not have the exact same opinion. All 22 gets you a chance to watch more plays but it doesnt make people better at watching film. People can still disagree on a particular block or mistake. I take in everyone's opinion and then form my own that doesnt mean we will all agree the same.

(So, if we are all superiorly informed, then we can all agree more? Thank you. I'll try to relearn football. Cheers 🥂).

All 22 is a different angle - its much easier to see what the Offensive and Defensive lines are doing when they show that second angle on the all 22 from the endzone.

People can watch all 22 film in highlights too, no doubt. I dont get a commission from NFL+ lol

But to think that Im arrogant by saying that if someone watched the all 22 theyd agree with me, then it doesnt say anything about my abilities at all does it? It says that YOU (or whoever) would see with your OWN eyes, and I think agree.

That means I think what im seeing is right, not that I think Im so great at watching film.

You and a couple others have chosen to read me a certain way. It goes back to me saying that Justin Fields sucks. Then you called me negative. Then when I was so excited about Caleb WIlliams, and saw what he was on tape, then it was that Im arrogant, rather than negative.

I think Im just right. Not because everything i think is so precious, but because I watched the tape and i have faith in what I saw. And again, it's not that I see better, because i still think many people would come to agree with what I saw if they saw it too. So that means they would be just as good at watching tape as I am, which is just normal, not any kind of genius at it.

But I know its hopeless to try to explain this - to say that I often disagree with the sportswriters and "common wisdom" of the echo chamber. You see me swim upstream, and think I think im special. But I dont. i just think the sportswriters are full of shit. I watch the all 22, and then I have opinions.

Most of them have turned out to be right, again, not because Im so smart, but just because iI took the time to actually watch the tape.

And anyone can do that, and so I thought it would make sense to people to subscribe when I found out it was only $80 a month, so I shared that. And it got the same reaction everything I say got. At this point, it aint me fellas.