To bring this back to a normal tone, we are all giving our opinions, its not a competition. Until the games are played nothing is a given. Its okay not to agree.

7 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

To bring this back to a normal tone, we are all giving our opinions, its not a competition. Until the games are played nothing is a given. Its okay not to agree.

disagreeing is fine, being sarcastic and obnoxious isnt. Or actually it is, as long as we all can do it.

The tone of this board will be up to the people on it and how they choose to interact. As long as its the same for anyone, i will go whatever the speed of traffic is. If its polite, I would LOVE that. If it's chippy, I'll return in kind too.

And Stinger, Im not talking about you, youve been fine for a while. I disagree with you, but you havent been rude or sarcastic.

55 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

disagreeing is fine, being sarcastic and obnoxious isnt. Or actually it is, as long as we all can do it.

The tone of this board will be up to the people on it and how they choose to interact. As long as its the same for anyone, i will go whatever the speed of traffic is. If its polite, I would LOVE that. If it's chippy, I'll return in kind too.

And Stinger, Im not talking about you, youve been fine for a while. I disagree with you, but you havent been rude or sarcastic.

You don't see it. You, literally, suggested that if everyone that cares to post on this site regularly should buy the all-22. Maybe if we all had it we would agree more. Since you're the the only one that has it, you're suggesting that we get on your level in order for us all to agree. You're subtle arrogance doesn't go unnoticed to educated readers. I don't get angry or butthurt like you do. I simply call it and you, as I see it and you. When I'm being a dick, I do not hide it. I'll end with, I like you just fine and enjoy your insight. I'll continue to bust your balls when I feel like it. BOHICA...🥂

2 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

You don't see it. You, literally, suggested that if everyone that cares to post on this site regularly should buy the all-22. Maybe if we all had it we would agree more. Since you're the the only one that has it, you're suggesting that we get on your level in order for us all to agree. You're subtle arrogance doesn't go unnoticed to educated readers. I don't get angry or butthurt like you do. I simply call it and you, as I see it and you. When I'm being a dick, I do not hide it. I'll end with, I like you just fine and enjoy your insight. I'll continue to bust your balls when I feel like it. BOHICA...🥂

Go for it, just dont whine when you get it back.

For you to to think that me suggesting you watch the footage and come up with your own point of view is arrogance on my point, you really have to be butthurt and twisting things. I respect your opinion, I just wonder if youd see what i saw if you watched the same tape.

Arrogance would be me saying I see the film better than you, that i know more about it or something. But i routinely say it isnt rocket science, its not ME, its the film. For any of us.

What I see looks kinda obvious to me, so I naively think we might agree more if we all saw it. So that would mean I would respect your point of view, and think wed share it. If i thought you were a dumbass, and I was so far above you, then Id think "even if you saw the all 22 you still wouldnt see it ya moron" but I dont think that. So youre just interpreting me all wrong.

Youre so busy trying to prove Im a jerk (Im not) that youre forced to take ridiculous positions. Im like some kind of ghost in your head LOL Im just a guy that likes the Bears. People that know me say im nice. I take care of my family, friends and neighbors. I'm a good dad.

I knew a lot of people like you in NYC. I got it, youre tough. Cool. Me too.

This whole thing is nonsense. If you speak roughly, Ill answer back that way. Ill assume youre enjoying it. If you decide to speak respectfully and normally, then thats what youll get back from me.

Its really your choice. Just like watching the tape would be too. its not such a big deal dude.

On 8/22/2026 at 6:21 PM, BearFan PHX said:

Go for it, just dont whine when you get it back.

For you to to think that me suggesting you watch the footage and come up with your own point of view is arrogance on my point, you really have to be butthurt and twisting things. I respect your opinion, I just wonder if youd see what i saw if you watched the same tape.

Arrogance would be me saying I see the film better than you, that i know more about it or something. But i routinely say it isnt rocket science, its not ME, its the film. For any of us.

What I see looks kinda obvious to me, so I naively think we might agree more if we all saw it. So that would mean I would respect your point of view, and think wed share it. If i thought you were a dumbass, and I was so far above you, then Id think "even if you saw the all 22 you still wouldnt see it ya moron" but I dont think that. So youre just interpreting me all wrong.

Youre so busy trying to prove Im a jerk (Im not) that youre forced to take ridiculous positions. Im like some kind of ghost in your head LOL Im just a guy that likes the Bears. People that know me say im nice. I take care of my family, friends and neighbors. I'm a good dad.

I knew a lot of people like you in NYC. I got it, youre tough. Cool. Me too.

This whole thing is nonsense. If you speak roughly, Ill answer back that way. Ill assume youre enjoying it. If you decide to speak respectfully and normally, then thats what youll get back from me.

Its really your choice. Just like watching the tape would be too. its not such a big deal dude.

I dont think you intended anything by this statement, but it does come across with an arrogant tone. Two people can look at something and not have the exact same opinion. All 22 gets you a chance to watch more plays but it doesnt make people better at watching film. People can still disagree on a particular block or mistake. I take in everyone's opinion and then form my own that doesnt mean we will all agree the same.

(So, if we are all superiorly informed, then we can all agree more? Thank you. I'll try to relearn football. Cheers 🥂).

6 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I dont think you intended anything by this statement, but it does come across with an arrogant tone. Two people can look at something and not have the exact same opinion. All 22 gets you a chance to watch more plays but it doesnt make people better at watching film. People can still disagree on a particular block or mistake. I take in everyone's opinion and then form my own that doesnt mean we will all agree the same.

(So, if we are all superiorly informed, then we can all agree more? Thank you. I'll try to relearn football. Cheers 🥂).

All 22 is a different angle - its much easier to see what the Offensive and Defensive lines are doing when they show that second angle on the all 22 from the endzone.

People can watch all 22 film in highlights too, no doubt. I dont get a commission from NFL+ lol

But to think that Im arrogant by saying that if someone watched the all 22 theyd agree with me, then it doesnt say anything about my abilities at all does it? It says that YOU (or whoever) would see with your OWN eyes, and I think agree.

That means I think what im seeing is right, not that I think Im so great at watching film.

You and a couple others have chosen to read me a certain way. It goes back to me saying that Justin Fields sucks. Then you called me negative. Then when I was so excited about Caleb WIlliams, and saw what he was on tape, then it was that Im arrogant, rather than negative.

I think Im just right. Not because everything i think is so precious, but because I watched the tape and i have faith in what I saw. And again, it's not that I see better, because i still think many people would come to agree with what I saw if they saw it too. So that means they would be just as good at watching tape as I am, which is just normal, not any kind of genius at it.

But I know its hopeless to try to explain this - to say that I often disagree with the sportswriters and "common wisdom" of the echo chamber. You see me swim upstream, and think I think im special. But I dont. i just think the sportswriters are full of shit. I watch the all 22, and then I have opinions.

Most of them have turned out to be right, again, not because Im so smart, but just because iI took the time to actually watch the tape.

And anyone can do that, and so I thought it would make sense to people to subscribe when I found out it was only $80 a month, so I shared that. And it got the same reaction everything I say got. At this point, it aint me fellas.

Gone Amegadjie is from the OT competition. I’ll still be the sole outsider because I don’t think it’s over for OT3 either

15 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

All 22 is a different angle - its much easier to see what the Offensive and Defensive lines are doing when they show that second angle on the all 22 from the endzone.

People can watch all 22 film in highlights too, no doubt. I dont get a commission from NFL+ lol

But to think that Im arrogant by saying that if someone watched the all 22 theyd agree with me, then it doesnt say anything about my abilities at all does it? It says that YOU (or whoever) would see with your OWN eyes, and I think agree.

That means I think what im seeing is right, not that I think Im so great at watching film.

You and a couple others have chosen to read me a certain way. It goes back to me saying that Justin Fields sucks. Then you called me negative. Then when I was so excited about Caleb WIlliams, and saw what he was on tape, then it was that Im arrogant, rather than negative.

I think Im just right. Not because everything i think is so precious, but because I watched the tape and i have faith in what I saw. And again, it's not that I see better, because i still think many people would come to agree with what I saw if they saw it too. So that means they would be just as good at watching tape as I am, which is just normal, not any kind of genius at it.

But I know its hopeless to try to explain this - to say that I often disagree with the sportswriters and "common wisdom" of the echo chamber. You see me swim upstream, and think I think im special. But I dont. i just think the sportswriters are full of shit. I watch the all 22, and then I have opinions.

Most of them have turned out to be right, again, not because Im so smart, but just because iI took the time to actually watch the tape.

And anyone can do that, and so I thought it would make sense to people to subscribe when I found out it was only $80 a month, so I shared that. And it got the same reaction everything I say got. At this point, it aint me fellas.

It seems to be, you are the only one that keeps score on opinions. AND like normal you twist things I say to push whatever narrative you wish for an example. As soon as we drafted Caleb, I was all in on him, you keep referring to Justin Fields sucks. I try to support players on the team and HOPE they get better, you like to be a critic and criticize .

Why are you always bringing up the past? No one cares what someone's opinion was two or three years ago. I think we have a chance to make a SB run possibly this year. This is a time to enjoy this team, not post a report card .

This is interesting. Last week Dennis Allen was clear when guys start playing well you want to see them against better competition. Gallimore hasn’t looked good in either game. I think VDB is already the clear DT3 and rising. DT4?

We kept Hardy around last year for special teams. Kromah has outplayed him at DE.

8 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

Gone Amegadjie is from the OT competition. I’ll still be the sole outsider because I don’t think it’s over for OT3 either

The coaches will give us who is playing better and who isnt. Like you I think Jones starts until Ozzy is ready. I think they played Benedet at LT to see if he can be the swing T. Wills still has to prove himself, we could just go with 3 Ts if Ozzy is back early. There's a crowded room at WR and DT so they may use the extra roster spot for other positions.

2 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

This is interesting. Last week Dennis Allen was clear when guys start playing well you want to see them against better competition. Gallimore hasn’t looked good in either game. I think VDB is already the clear DT3 and rising. DT4?

We kept Hardy around last year for special teams. Kromah has outplayed him at DE.

TBH, Im not sure Davenport makes the team if Kromah and lynch play well. Lynch and swing out and in . I read where he was liked where ever he played, he has a constant motor.

I mentioned earlier that the Bears could trade Gervin Dexter. Looks like rumors about the possibility are starting to swirl.

A. He doesn't quite fit the Bears DT profile size and ability.

B. They signed and drafted guys that do fit and have options. Jarrett, Gallimore, Linch, Street, Van Den Berg, and Dayo/Turner can slide inside.

C. His contract is up and they most likely do not renew it due to (A. and B.)

So the Bears might be feeling out what the market is. Be nice to get a 3rd from a team looking to improve now.

18 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

I mentioned earlier that the Bears could trade Gervin Dexter. Looks like rumors about the possibility are starting to swirl.

A. He doesn't quite fit the Bears DT profile size and ability.

B. They signed and drafted guys that do fit and have options. Jarrett, Gallimore, Linch, Street, Van Den Berg, and Dayo/Turner can slide inside.

C. His contract is up and they most likely do not renew it due to (A. and B.)

So the Bears might be feeling out what the market is. Be nice to get a 3rd from a team looking to improve now.

My normal thought process is keep good players if we are actually going to make a SB run. I watch Greg Gabriel regularly and he mentioned after we picked up several DTs, that Dexter doesnt really fit DAs defense and could be traded. I rejected the thought but, for this to function how DA wants to play his D, it makes sense. Dont know if they do, but he doesnt have a high ceiling, so why not.

44 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

My normal thought process is keep good players if we are actually going to make a SB run. I watch Greg Gabriel regularly and he mentioned after we picked up several DTs, that Dexter doesnt really fit DAs defense and could be traded. I rejected the thought but, for this to function how DA wants to play his D, it makes sense. Dont know if they do, but he doesnt have a high ceiling, so why not.

Dexter for a starting-quality safety or Left OT would be nice. If draft capital, I wouldn't let him go cheap (day 2 pick +). If the Bears weren't planning to sign him next year (I'm sure he will want big $$$), then trade him if the compensation makes us a better team.

That could give VDB a chance to start.

38 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

My normal thought process is keep good players if we are actually going to make a SB run. I watch Greg Gabriel regularly and he mentioned after we picked up several DTs, that Dexter doesnt really fit DAs defense and could be traded. I rejected the thought but, for this to function how DA wants to play his D, it makes sense. Dont know if they do, but he doesnt have a high ceiling, so why not.

Just in a couple preseason games, we see a 6th round rookie creating more havoc than Dexter has. Not that Dexter is a bad player, just doesn't fit what Allen wants. Maybe rejoin Eberflus in SF or Cunningham in Atlanta to help repay the Bears for losing the comp picks.

51 minutes ago, Pixote said:

Dexter for a starting-quality safety or Left OT would be nice. If draft capital, I wouldn't let him go cheap (day 2 pick +). If the Bears weren't planning to sign him next year (I'm sure he will want big $$$), then trade him if the compensation makes us a better team.

That could give VDB a chance to start.

He may get some safety help, but he damn sure isn't getting LT help. Best bet is a 4th round pick

27 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

He may get some safety help, but he damn sure isn't getting LT help. Best bet is a 4th round pick

That might be better than handing Poles a 3rd rounder that he likes to bobble.

Heck, even a team like the Eagles who like to buy decent low cost DTs might be interested. They trade a 4th and then get a 3rd comp pick if he tears it up on a stacked defensive line.

Waiting for word on Darnell’s injury.

11 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

It seems to be, you are the only one that keeps score on opinions. AND like normal you twist things I say to push whatever narrative you wish for an example. As soon as we drafted Caleb, I was all in on him, you keep referring to Justin Fields sucks. I try to support players on the team and HOPE they get better, you like to be a critic and criticize .

Why are you always bringing up the past? No one cares what someone's opinion was two or three years ago. I think we have a chance to make a SB run possibly this year. This is a time to enjoy this team, not post a report card .

you know what? Stop worrying so much about my state of mind. i obviously live rent free in yours. Why not just talk about Football? Do you love me or something?

7 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

you know what? Stop worrying so much about my state of mind. i obviously live rent free in yours. Why not just talk about Football? Do you love me or something?

Back to making stupid comments. Stick to football. If it was just me you have problems with, I get that because you dont like me , but you have butt heads with several other people that does not involve me. At some point you need to self evaluate or just continue to butt heads with several people.

10 hours ago, AZ54 said:

Waiting for word on Darnell’s injury.

Saw that too. Cronin says ‘nothing too worrisome’. What I had seen was he removed a brace when going to the sideline. Didn’t realize he was nursing an injury (torn UCL - Ulnar Collateral Ligament - back of elbow) from last season.

36 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

Back to making stupid comments. Stick to football. If it was just me you have problems with, I get that because you dont like me , but you have butt heads with several other people that does not involve me. At some point you need to self evaluate or just continue to butt heads with several people.

Can you both please stop. Your like that movie Grumpy Old Men, we already seen that years ago.

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Can you both please stop. Your like that movie Grumpy Old Men, we already seen that years ago.

YES. I dont initiate any of this. Please lets have some moderation here, or tell us that we are free to fight nasty.

Im not gonna keep taking this nonsense year after year and then be punished when I simply defend myself.

I only want to talk about football. My recent crime is that i suggested that people might want to know the all 22 is only $80. That and that I suggested the a chip block is more effective at containing the rusher from going outside than helping on a bull rush.

Seriously, we are either going to clean this up now, or Im gonna roll up my sleeves and go for it. I would VASTLY prefer the former.

2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Back to making stupid comments. Stick to football. If it was just me you have problems with, I get that because you dont like me , but you have butt heads with several other people that does not involve me. At some point you need to self evaluate or just continue to butt heads with several people.

was the comment i replied to about football? no it wasnt.

this is bizzarro world, and Im starting to get pissed off. So please, can we moderate this site fairly and from all sides?

PLEASE

2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

YES. I dont initiate any of this. Please lets have some moderation here, or tell us that we are free to fight nasty.

Im not gonna keep taking this nonsense year after year and then be punished when I simply defend myself.

I only want to talk about football. My recent crime is that i suggested that people might want to know the all 22 is only $80. That and that I suggested the a chip block is more effective at containing the rusher from going outside than helping on a bull rush.

Seriously, we are either going to clean this up now, or Im gonna roll up my sleeves and go for it. I would VASTLY prefer the former.

3 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Can you both please stop. Your like that movie Grumpy Old Men, we already seen that years ago.

Its been good for a long time. PHX had the problem with Mongo and I just tried to offer advice which of course went off the rails. I'll go back not saying anything stupid that lights fires. You need that commitment from everyone to make this work. Having different opinions is not a hostile act, everyone needs to understand the difference. Just review how this situation faired up and you will have a better understanding why this happens.