bowlingtwig Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I forgot to reply to this. It would kill me to pass on Teo', but depending on how the draft played out, I could pass on him for stud OL talent. I just don't honestly believe LB talent is very difficult to find or cultivate. Find ball, hit ball carrier, tackle. I know that's incredibly simplistic, but that's what LBs do from pee-wee to the pros. To go further, I'd pass if Warmack, Cooper, or Jones is there. I love te'o but i think i could go along and pass on him if any of those 3 were available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Here is an article on the top 10 Pro Prospects that will be playing tonight in the BCS Game tonight, I thought it was very interesting as it mentioned several players I would love to see in a Bears Uniform and some who have already been discussed in this forum. Pro Prospects Playing Tonight in the BCS Game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Here is an article on the top 10 Pro Prospects that will be playing tonight in the BCS Game tonight, I thought it was very interesting as it mentioned several players I would love to see in a Bears Uniform and some who have already been discussed in this forum. Pro Prospects Playing Tonight in the BCS Game Great article. Hard to imagine that tuitt is only a sophomor. Dude could be a stud if he continues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selection7 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I'm not saying we shouldn't draft a replacement if it's the right guy, but I think some of you are counting out Urlacher a little too early. Remember a couple of seasons ago when he got injured and people were talking about trading him and how his career was winding down? The next year he put up one of his best seasons. Last year was a pretty good year too. He may not be what he used to be, but when healthy he's still better than any rookie. We never win more games than we lose when Urlacher is out, and this season was no exception. I wouldn't be in such a hurry to expedite his exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I'm not saying we shouldn't draft a replacement if it's the right guy, but I think some of you are counting out Urlacher a little too early. Remember a couple of seasons ago when he got injured and people were talking about trading him and how his career was winding down? The next year he put up one of his best seasons. Last year was a pretty good year too. He may not be what he used to be, but when healthy he's still better than any rookie. We never win more games than we lose when Urlacher is out, and this season was no exception. I wouldn't be in such a hurry to expedite his exit. We only have 1 LB on our roster. I think MLB/OLB or an Elite S is our pick at 20... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 We only have 1 LB on our roster. I think MLB/OLB or an Elite S is our pick at 20... Dude. Stop. Briggs is still an all-star, and Urlacher is an above average MLB. We've been spoiled over the years by his athleticism, but he's still above average. Oh, and by the way, Thomas is still a second year guy. And to be quite honest, I don't think Roach or Hayes is all that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Jason while I don't disagree with your thinking let me throw a curve your way.Manti Teo' has a bad combine and his draft stock starts to plummet and he is sitting there at 20, do you take him or do you pick a OL that may not be worthy of that spot? As if the National Championship game couldn't have made my point any more clear. Jones > Teo' As a Notre Dame fan living in the heart of SEC country (Alabama), there is something entirely different about football down here. It's particularly true about Alabama since the fan base is so rabid and there are no pro teams to speak of in any sport. That, and the performance put on last night, is one of the reasons I previously said I wouldn't mind a trade up into the second round if it were possible for the Bears to pick Warmack, Fluker, AND Barret Jones. Of course, that's not going to happen, which is why I think the best possible draft start for the Bears (assuming no FA movements) would be Jones in the first, Fluker in the second. Until the OL problem is solved by more than bandaids, the offense will never perform and Cutler will get beat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 As if the National Championship game couldn't have made my point any more clear. Jones > Teo' As a Notre Dame fan living in the heart of SEC country (Alabama), there is something entirely different about football down here. It's particularly true about Alabama since the fan base is so rabid and there are no pro teams to speak of in any sport. That, and the performance put on last night, is one of the reasons I previously said I wouldn't mind a trade up into the second round if it were possible for the Bears to pick Warmack, Fluker, AND Barret Jones. Of course, that's not going to happen, which is why I think the best possible draft start for the Bears (assuming no FA movements) would be Jones in the first, Fluker in the second. Until the OL problem is solved by more than bandaids, the offense will never perform and Cutler will get beat up. I could get to like fluker and jones. Both are very dominant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I forgot to reply to this. It would kill me to pass on Teo', but depending on how the draft played out, I could pass on him for stud OL talent. I just don't honestly believe LB talent is very difficult to find or cultivate. Find ball, hit ball carrier, tackle. I know that's incredibly simplistic, but that's what LBs do from pee-wee to the pros. To go further, I'd pass if Warmack, Cooper, or Jones is there. I gotcha but I'm of the thinking that Teo is the next great MLB to come to the league and that he is a special player along the lines of Lewis,Urlacher and Willis.I truly believe he is a top 10 talent but if there is a run on another position and he drops like Hightower did I take him. I believe that Barrett Jones is the guy who will be there and I'm wondering if we should put him at center and move Garza to LG with his understudy on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I gotcha but I'm of the thinking that Teo is the next great MLB to come to the league and that he is a special player along the lines of Lewis,Urlacher and Willis.I truly believe he is a top 10 talent but if there is a run on another position and he drops like Hightower did I take him. I believe that Barrett Jones is the guy who will be there and I'm wondering if we should put him at center and move Garza to LG with his understudy on the roster. I focussed on Teo alot last night. He was slow and weak at the point of attack. Huge concerns for him moving to the pro level. His height and weight are listed as suitable, but he looks 20 lbs smaller on the field. I'm off his bandwagon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I focussed on Teo alot last night. He was slow and weak at the point of attack. Huge concerns for him moving to the pro level. His height and weight are listed as suitable, but he looks 20 lbs smaller on the field. I'm off his bandwagon... I've seen every game of his and im sorry i completely disagree. Ur trying to say he sucks. I remember how ppl said he sucked in coverage then he went out and proved everyone wrong this yr. He had a really bad day. So did everyone on ND last night. I'll judge him based on his overall work to this point and not just last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I've seen every game of his and im sorry i completely disagree. Ur trying to say he sucks. I remember how ppl said he sucked in coverage then he went out and proved everyone wrong this yr. He had a really bad day. So did everyone on ND last night. I'll judge him based on his overall work to this point and not just last night Proved everyone wrong? Against who? BYU, Purdue, Navy, Wake Forest? Wow, I'm impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Proved everyone wrong? Against who? BYU, Purdue, Navy, Wake Forest? Wow, I'm impressed. Oklahoma, Stanford, usc, Michigan, MSU. He will be a good LB in the NFL. May not HOF or all pro vut a good starting LB. U can go ahead a think he sucks. I will remember u when he proves u wrong in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Oklahoma, Stanford, usc, Michigan, MSU. He will be a good LB in the NFL. May not HOF or all pro vut a good starting LB. U can go ahead a think he sucks. I will remember u when he proves u wrong in the NFL OU and USC? Bad years. Michigan? Another unathletic team that lost to an SEC school. MSU? Come on. They beat TCU in a d-bag bowl game by 1. Stanford? He had 10 tackles, no picks, no FF's, etc. Big deal. Remember me, I don't care. People will take this guy because of his leadership skills. This reminds me a lot of Tim Tebow leaving Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I've seen every game of his and im sorry i completely disagree. Ur trying to say he sucks. I remember how ppl said he sucked in coverage then he went out and proved everyone wrong this yr. He had a really bad day. So did everyone on ND last night. I'll judge him based on his overall work to this point and not just last night I agree there's a place for him. I just longer think it's in the 1st round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 OU and USC? Bad years. Michigan? Another unathletic team that lost to an SEC school. MSU? Come on. They beat TCU in a d-bag bowl game by 1. Stanford? He had 10 tackles, no picks, no FF's, etc. Big deal. Remember me, I don't care. People will take this guy because of his leadership skills. This reminds me a lot of Tim Tebow leaving Florida. Tim Tebow? Please stop. Tebow wont even last in the NF. Im willing to bet he goes 1st rd and is a starter for 10 yrs. Michigan in unathletic yup denard robinsob isnt athletic lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Tim Tebow? Please stop. Tebow wont even last in the NF. Im willing to bet he goes 1st rd and is a starter for 10 yrs. Michigan in unathletic yup denard robinsob isnt athletic lol And my final word on thi. Pardon me for trusting draft experts Todd McShay and Mel Kiper Jr over you lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Dude. Stop. Briggs is still an all-star, and Urlacher is an above average MLB. We've been spoiled over the years by his athleticism, but he's still above average. Oh, and by the way, Thomas is still a second year guy. And to be quite honest, I don't think Roach or Hayes is all that bad. Give it a break. Roach and Url are not under contract. You know Hayes is horrible as well. So we do have ONE starting LB, a backup that sucks and an untested guy. Not saying we draft LB in the first, hell no for safety. BTW - Briggs is NOT what he used to be and he aint gettin any younger either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 And my final word on thi. Pardon me for trusting draft experts Todd McShay and Mel Kiper Jr over you lol I also think Teo' will have a successful NFL career, but I wouldn't say McShay and Kiper are really experts. They are wrong just as often as they are right. The only thing they really have going for them is that they have the time to remember obscure stats about LBs from NE Savannah State Tech College. Whereas you and I have other jobs that don't allow for this type of study. Given enough time, I'm sure most people on this board could have as successful a prediction rate as either McShay or Kiper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Tim Tebow? Please stop. Tebow wont even last in the NF. Im willing to bet he goes 1st rd and is a starter for 10 yrs. Michigan in unathletic yup denard robinsob isnt athletic lol One guy? That's all you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 One guy? That's all you got? I could go on Brian however it won't matter what i say because u already think he sucks and is just another tebow so why should i waste my breath trying to convince u when its obvious u already have ur mind made up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 WF has a 4 round mock up now. 1. Ogletree 2. Fluker 4. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 WF has a 4 round mock up now. 1. Ogletree 2. Fluker 4. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati Im wondering if Fluker maybe stays. Shoot for that 3 pt and better his draft stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 WF has a 4 round mock up now. 1. Ogletree 2. Fluker 4. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati I would absolutely hate that. A MLB first rounder who won't start and a 4th round pass-catching TE to replace...a 4th round pass-catching TE? That would be moronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I would absolutely hate that. A MLB first rounder who won't start and a 4th round pass-catching TE to replace...a 4th round pass-catching TE? That would be moronic. No one says Kelce would replace Rodriguez. Now, teams have 2 pass catching TE's. What's your ideal mock draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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