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Poles values athletics  and speed, Jones has it, Newsome doesnt. I think they targeted Velus Jones, and probably were trying to trade back and get extra picks and take him in the 4th where he was projected being drafted. I think they took him early. As soon as Thornton was drafted , they knew Jones would not last long. I think the brain trust figured out how they wanted to use Jones, (Deebo style) and had him high on there list. People look at this as a reach because the draftniks didnt had him rated high, but their job is not on the line by being wrong where the current regime is. Something I think mattered to them was his KR ability. Him and Ebnerr were both excellent KRers  and I suspect one will do punts and the other kickoffs. I think Ebner makes the final roster even thou the RB room is crowded with good players.    Poles says he wanted playmakers and both fit that mode. One thing Poles did for sure was add speed to this team, something we lacked before. Flus runs the nickel package 80% of the time. Morrow and Roquin will be the LBers in that scheme.4.51 and 4.5. His run the ball mentality will work well with the added speed. I think Jack Sanborn with 4.66 speed will start in the SAM spot . The only weak spot left on D (IMO) is the 3 T position . The starter only gets around 60% of the snaps so we need two. Edwards may be sneaky good as the backup but that remains to be seen. I think the possibility exists that Ogunjobi could be back. If he does, I think we can be a top 10 D with more TOs than last year. All win win.

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44 minutes ago, McGowan said:

 

 

Eh. If they're giving up any draft capitol,  it should be for the OL. I think they like Mooney, Pringle, and Velus. 

 

One thing that I think has got to be said again about Velus is Poles sat down with Fields and identified Jones as a guy Fields would like to throw to. I think that means something.  That's your QBs guy. 

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5 hours ago, scs787 said:

Eh. If they're giving up any draft capitol,  it should be for the OL. I think they like Mooney, Pringle, and Velus. 

 

One thing that I think has got to be said again about Velus is Poles sat down with Fields and identified Jones as a guy Fields would like to throw to. I think that means something.  That's your QBs guy. 

In the Greg Gabriel thread, Greg talks about Velus only being 11 months older than Devin Hester when he was drafted, so, so what on the age.  He also talked about St Brown and how he was viewed as entitled at ND and had some maturing to do.  The fact that his younger bro plays in the division and got 90 receptions last year will prove as a wake up call for his career.  Getsy knowing and signing off on him also tells me he plans to mature.  Gabriel said he's a superior athlete to lil bro.

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The G Gabriel interview was fantastic. I really enjoyed listening to this guy. I feel a lot more confident in our WR room after listening to his take. I truly believe St Brown and Pringle are going to shut up a lot of critics. Mooney, St Brown, Pringle, & Jones are going to be a huge upgrade for Fields to target. 

As far as the OL, I have my fingers crossed. This should be Poles' strength because of his background. Are the pieces to the puzzle already aboard or is he biding his time to pick up a vet fa after the dust settles?

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I listen to a lot of Bears content podcasts, I'm A Bears nerd, one national writer said he thought the Bears would only win 2 games but that was OK because Fields would improve in his second year. If  Justin  Fields takes a step up , that's an argument for the Bears winning 8 or 9 games, not 2. So much negatively because the Bears didn't take a OL and WR with their first 2 picks. A lot of writers on that narrative. I hope the Bears win 10-11 games just to shut those idiots up. Last year we were not good but with the additions to this years team has not made us worse.

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I think the thing that a lot of people will look at is the fact that the roster is largely unproven. I get that. Until they prove it, a lot of people are gonna be down on the bears....They could be very bad, but they could also be pretty good if these guys "Prove it." 

 

Legit, up and down this roster there's maybe 5 proven guys. Even those guys have scheme related questions. How do Whitehair and Monty translate to a wide zone? Can Quinn still play with his hand in the dirt? How does Roquan play in whatever position they have him at in the 4-3? How does Mooney play now that he's the definite #1(even though he saw more attention as the season went on and Robinson sucked)? 

 

The rest of the guys are largely unproven. Outside of maybe a guy like Patrick who has already been in the system. 

 

I am confident in a lot of these guys though. I definitely see more than 2 wins. I took the over at 6.5 wins, but I only see it at 7 wins. 

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3 hours ago, scs787 said:

I think the thing that a lot of people will look at is the fact that the roster is largely unproven. I get that. Until they prove it, a lot of people are gonna be down on the bears....They could be very bad, but they could also be pretty good if these guys "Prove it." 

 

Legit, up and down this roster there's maybe 5 proven guys. Even those guys have scheme related questions. How do Whitehair and Monty translate to a wide zone? Can Quinn still play with his hand in the dirt? How does Roquan play in whatever position they have him at in the 4-3? How does Mooney play now that he's the definite #1(even though he saw more attention as the season went on and Robinson sucked)? 

 

The rest of the guys are largely unproven. Outside of maybe a guy like Patrick who has already been in the system. 

 

I am confident in a lot of these guys though. I definitely see more than 2 wins. I took the over at 6.5 wins, but I only see it at 7 wins. 

I agree, and after all we've been through, we should be of the same mindset.

I really like the changes Ive seen. It looks like they are making good choices. But I need to see it on the field. :)

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Poles will not hit on all players he brought in but at least they are not here on big contracts. The majority are ascending players, ones that have improved every year. For example Morrow in 2019 and 2020 out preformed the two higher paid lLBers the Raiders brought in Kwit and Cory Littleton. Last year he had an injury that caused him to not play. Patrick was a backup in GB and  in 2020 played 14 games at LG because of injury.  Last year he played 15 games at OC because of injury, gave up 1 sack and 5 pressures. Q Mohammed had  7 sacks and had improved every year. You could seem him break out with Quinn on the other side. All the WRs  he brought in have had productive years but never had enough snaps to be consistent. With Hill and kelce getting 393 targets, it was hard for Pringle to shine in KC.

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6 hours ago, GakMan23 said:

Looks like he must be getting healthy.

Yep, signed a 1-yr deal with Pittsburgh:

 

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2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

He may start the season out on the IR, two teams turned him down, so obviously there was a problem. 

Yep we will see. He was also a FA so he can sign wherever he wants to. I assume the pulling of the contract would take the Bears out of the equation even though it was the correct thing to do.

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Thought I’d add this interesting nugget here. In another story on his addition was a note of “needed depth at DB” and “health matter of 2nd round pick Kyler Gordon”.  Say what?  

Should mentioned OLman Dozier was also put on IR after being carted off the field last week.
 

 

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2 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

Thought I’d add this interesting nugget here. In another story on his addition was a note of “needed depth at DB” and “health matter of 2nd round pick Kyler Gordon”.  Say what?  

Should mentioned OLman Dozier was also put on IR after being carted off the field last week.
 

 

The Gordon thing could be a contract situation, he hasn't signed yet. Nobody was just talking about it. It could be a minor injury that they aren't talking about either. We will find out in one month.

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6 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

The Gordon thing could be a contract situation, he hasn't signed yet. Nobody was just talking about it. It could be a minor injury that they aren't talking about either. We will find out in one month.

In a scan of social media etc, the speculation oscillates between contractual issue (more likely) to his contemplating a return to competitive dancing (least likely).  Nothing notable about an actual injury other than some cramping during the rookie camps back in April and him riding a stationary bike more recently during OTAs.  

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