madlithuanian

It's really the perfect storm. I'm shocked at the utter outrage besides some former players and Green Bay fans. But, you tack in 3 weeks of shoddy officiating, a game deciding call, against n NFL regime pounding their chests about bounties, the recent NFLPA deal fiasco, that we live in a world of twits facebooks and instant media, the fact that it was on a national MNF game, and that it was against the darling Packers...thus everyone but a minority is outraged. It's far from the worst call in NFL history. That was the coin flip. Even my grandma could get that one right. This one required, at minimum, a really amazing knowledge of some intricate rules. And there is some gray area there despite what every so-called expert is saying. Or even the Testverde TD... The ball never got in the end zone! Here, at least one could argue Tate had Some possession of the ball. Sadly, this is going to permeate the entire season as Fudgie fans are going to want to put an asterik on the season. If those dolts don't make it in the playoffs, we're going to hear about this ad nausea.

Seriously!

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We can only hope... That'll show 'em! What a putz. On the bright side, at least the media is now obsessed with this and Jay could push anyone he wants to now!

Ha!!!!!!!!!!

Can he be worse than Armando Allen? ...and maybe has some insight...

Wow... Don't know what else to say... Good sleuthing.

Well said... I'm just happy it wasn't us and it was them.

I prefer it too. This is a hiccup in the NFL. A deal will be made with the refs and we will return back to our normal officiating we can complain about. At least we will have the best there is making mistakes.

Then we agree to disagree. I simply think bad calls happen all the time. The media is pouring on. Just like they did with Cutler's little push. They have nothing else to talk about. So, this'll get flogged like a dead horse. Yes, if this happened to the Bears I'd be pissed. I'm a full on hypocrite. Sorry. But I'm consistent. If it's good for the Bears I like it. If it's bad for the Bears I hate it. So, I happen to like this. A lot. What do you want the NFL to do? The refs made a poor call. Then the regular booth official upheld the bad call. That was the check & balance. It happened to fail in this instance, like in many others. It's not perfect. The NFL is trying to do the right thing. No one is telling the refs to suck. I personally think everyone would be complaining just as much if it were the regular officials. We do anyway. It's just that it's replacement refs, so our view is increased. Bottom line, the replacement refs didn't get the memo. The regular refs are told to let Green Bay and New England win. Darn those replacement refs for not knowing that! (Seriously, money makes the world go round. These guys don't play for altruism. There is love of the game and it needs to be as solid as possible. The regular officials would be preferred, but until they settle their money differences, we need to deal...)

Thanks for clarifying. Looks like it was a bad call. But I'm happy it was.

Exactly!!!

Great points... If it were any other team than the Packers, this would just be a bad call. Because it's the golden boy team of the NFL and media, this call is being hailed as the biggest crime against America since the Kennedy assassination... The experts are failing to see reality... 1. The call on the field was justified. Possession requires complete control on the ground. Ask Megatron... When the ref came over, both guys had the ball. Tie to the offensive player. 2. In the booth, it was probably too close to reverse. Then on top, I've heard that the booth can't judge a possession call. I can't attest to that, but it that's the case, then the call on the field also stands. At worst, this is a slightly bad call. Not like giving Jim Harbaugh 2 extra challenges, or Vinny Testverde a TD with bonus yards, or botching a coin flip... But since this happened to the darling of the NFL...HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A FUDGIE SCORNED! I would prefer better officiating, but I say that every year regardless if it's the replacements or real ones. F you Green Bay. Welcome to 1-2.

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Your take is how I thought it ent down when I saw it. Listening to the talking heads, this was a worse thing than Lincoln being shot... Sorry, you don't want to leave the game in the refs hands. Get the ball. Happens in s a scrum all the time, the last guy with the ball gets it.

And that is a problem, how? Nice to finally see karma getting them after 10+ years of calls going their way...

He's done a great job so far. He's been out of place just a few times, and thankfully the QB or WR messed up. But, overall...I've seen nothing but a huge improvement from him compared to seasons past. He seems to be playing smarter and harder. Can you ask for more? (Also, his time spent catching in the off-season and practice really looks to be helping!)

Thanks for pointing that out guys. I missed it... Marinelli seems to be doing some good things with the line. He's well regarded...it looks like his efforts now may be bearing some fruit. I like what I'm seeing from SMC. He's not a top ten pick. He's preforming as much as one could want. He may end up being better than some of the higher pics before him.

Seen this movie too... Don't like the ending.

That's what I estimate their record to be. As you say, it will save the jobs as usual...

The Gould standard!

That would be the silver lining...

...call me crazy , but I feel like it's Groundhog Day. D plays well. O sucks. Haven't we been part of this for what seems like 30 years now? I fear we have ruined Cutler. Either given him too much power or got him sacked, hurried and hit so much he's a shell of a QB. This season is certainly going to be interested. I'm not so sure in a good way...