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Thanks Mad Man GB needs a backup to Rodgers, but they will not put pressure on him by drafting a QB in the 1st rd GB has 2 aging starters at CB and need some youth, but I am not thrilled with what is left GB needs a TE to stretch the field, but none left are worth a 1st rd selection GB has two aging OTs who have had injury problems and a QB that has already proven to be fragil. Therefore, GBP selects Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt - a great value at pick #30 Next up - 31 New York Giants - NeoBear

Yes, I like Delvin Thomas also. The only question mark I see with Kelly is his speed. I am not one to take a lot of stock in times ran in shorts and sprinter shoes. I think he has enough speed to go along with his atheticism to make an immediate contribution to Tampa Bay's offense. However, he could also turn out to be another Mike Williams. (I think the kid has a good work ethic and attitude so I do not envision this.)

Tampa Bay as I see them: CB – lost Kelly, lots of age and no depth, a definite need WR – Galloway is 37, Clayton & Hilliard have not been able to give them the big plays, Bryant signed but may not be the answer they need. QB – Garcia had an excellent season, but how much longer can he play or stay healthy? DL – They really have no one to put pressure on the QB OL – Like many teams, the OL needs upgrading LB – Another aging group – it is time to start thinking about bringing in some fresh blood. Depending which website you visit, an argument could be made for any of the 6 position needs listed. The 3 that shows up on just about every team needs list are CB, WR, & DL. Of those 3 positions, and knowing Gruden, I suspect WR will be the selection as CB & DL have been picked over more than WR. So which WR? Sweed, Kelly, Jackson, ???? Again opinions very greatly from site to site. I know Sweed & Jackson are rated higher than Kelly by NFL Countdown but other sites actually have Kelly rated the #1 WR. I think Kelly is more polished and NFL ready than any other WR available, great size, hands, good route runner, good blocker, Tampa Bay selects Malcom Kelly, WR, Oklahoma Balta & the Washington Redskins are on the clock.........

Just got an email from him - said he was away for a couple of days, will be here soon to make his pick.

My My, I must be getting old, how could I have forgotten about the babes?

Hi Grouchy Bear, it sure is great to see you return. I understand your frustration. I think we all share that with you. Many of the old guard have migrated over, some missing, but this time of year many of us took a break from the action until it got closer to preseason. Hopefully, by the time the 1st game in August kicks off, many more will join us. Again, welcome back, all of us hdere from BearsTalk missed your posts.

I have to go into work this morning for a few hours to finish up the work on my Team that I supervise. Had to take some time off do to some health problems and that is why I was around for the past couple of days (decided to audition for the Summer Olympics gymnastics team, did some somersaults and cartwheels down a slope in my back yard only to have my progress stopped by a large immovable object just as I was picking up some good speed, LOL). Anyway, if Tampa Bay goes on the clock before I finish, just thought I would let you all know that I hope to be back by noon and will make my selection at that time. Hopefully by disclosing this the teams following Tampa will be advised that they will be on the clock at about that time.

I agree with you Parker, a second day QB selection would be fine with me, especially Dixon or Johnson.

Minnesota has many needs. DE - OL Depth - DT depth - QB to develop behind Jackson (current backup is Bollinger) - TE that can be a downfield threat for Jackson. After reading around the internet and checking out various mock drafts, it seems most feel Defensive end is the number one need for the Vikings. One site stated it this way: All three mocks I saw (NFL Draftcountdown, Footballsfuture, Draft Tek Simulation) had Minny selecting a DE in the first round, 2 having them select D Harvey & 1 P Merling. Some sites have Merling the #3 DE in the draft and Harvey #4. Some reverse the order. My understanding is many are thinking Merling may slip down the boards because he has had injury problems and this has kept him from working out for the scouts. Therefore I will select for the Minnesota Vikings with the 17th selection of the 2008 draft: Derrick Harvey DE Florida Next up: 18 Houston Texans - DabearsDabomb

Who would of thought we would ever see a Delaware Blue Hen QB rated #1 in the draft? I also would have liked to have seen him in a Bears Uniform but as you said it is a bit unlikely now.

I also would like to see a trade down in that situation however, sometimes you just can't find a trading partner.

Detroit has many needs from what I have read. Their OL sucks as bad as ours. Their yds per carry by RBs was the 2nd worst in the NFL last year. They have suffered with CB coverage ever since trading away Dre' Bly They have no effective pass rush and need a DE They have an OLB playing out of position at MLB and need a true Tampa 2 type of Mike They need a RB bad, having released Kevin Jones. If either of the top 3 RB prospects were still available I would definitely have selected one here. Unfortunately for the Lions none made it to their slot in the draft and none of the other backs would be a smart selection at 15. OL is deep and can be found in later rounds. DE & ILB are interesting prospects here but IMO the best value here is at CB. Very seldom do you get a chance to select a CB in the draft that is capable of starting as a rookie and make an impact. I feel that in this case, Detroit would be foolish to pass on a chance to resolve this area of need. Therefore with the 15th selection of the draft, Detroit selects: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee St. 16 Arizona Cardinals - ParkerBear7 - you are on the clock......

If that is true, projected in the 4th, it means Angelo will consider him in the 3rd? Seems to be his M.O.

I could not fault the Bears for considering Ryan if he fell to us, I would however prefer not to risk a first round draft selection on a QB if possible, instead, a trade down or a selection of a top OLT would be my preference at 14.

Very interesting article. 90% success rate for first round OL selections over the last decade. Amazing statistic!

Yes, a bit disappointing. At this rate we will not finish round 1 by the 26th. I actually sent a PM to Prophet & Ashkum after the 1st pick was selected hoping we could knock off the 1st 4 picks fast. I saw Ashkum around a lot last night waiting for Prophet. Prophet never showed. I am sure he is tied up with other important matters. He is an excellent member of the forum and I have no doubt he would have been here if possible. That being said, not sure what we should do.

Has Urlacher been quoted by any source saying he was not attending the workouts because of his contract negotiations? I thought I read he refused to discuss the reasons for his not participating. Has it been quoted anywhere that he has addressed the team about his contract negotiations? I know he is negotiating a contract, he has friends on the team, I am sure some ask him how the negotiations are going, but that is not addressing the team with the issue. Has he gone public bitching and threatening a holdout. No. Aren't we jumping the gun and assuming because it is so commonplace for a player to hold himself out of workouts when they are in contract negotiations that this must be the reason for Urlacher as well? My guess, just coming off of neck surgery and having an arthritis issue with his lower back he felt the smart thing would do would be sit out workouts which quite frankly will not hurt his ability to play this year. It may help to get him to the first game of the year in Indianapolis in better condition to kick a**. Some veterans who are invaluable to the team should not, IMHO, should not be subject to any unnecessary risks.

LOL, I assure you I have had bigger bloopers to my credit....

ATLANTA????

Well, since no one else is stepping up, I took all the Bears divisional rivals, Tampa was at one time in our division before the reallignment, so I will take them. Now let's get this draft on the roll. By the way, as most know, Tuesday through Saturday I work very very long hours. I will do my best to stay on top of things and do not think I will be late with my picks, I will be set to select asap.

No problem. We should include a link to the site I took it from NFL Draft Countdown And I would also suggest giving a couple of links for team needs: Team Needs - NFL Draft Countdown Team Needs - FootballsFuture.com Team Needs - Draft.com This always helps speed things up.

We could just go with a top 100 list from a site like NFL Draft Countown: 1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas 2. Jake Long OT Michigan 3. Chris Long DE Virginia 4. Glenn Dorsey DT L.S.U. 5. Vernon Gholston DE Ohio St. 6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 7. Matt Ryan QB Boston College 8. Ryan Clady OT Boise St. 9. Keith Rivers OLB USC 10. Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon 11. Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois 12. Limas Sweed WR Texas 13. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy 14. Phillip Merling DE Clemson 15. Kenny Phillips S Miami (FL) 16. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee St. 17. DeSean Jackson WR California 18. Dan Connor OLB Penn St. 19. Derrick Harvey DE Florida 20. Mike Jenkins CB South Florida 21. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 22. Reggie Smith S Oklahoma 23. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 24. Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma 25. Branden Albert OG Virginia 26. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt 27. Aqib Talib CB Kansas 28. Gosder Cherilus OT Boston College 29. Felix Jones RB Arkansas 30. Quentin Groves DE Auburn 31. Kentwan Balmer DT North Carolina 32. Sam Baker OT USC 33. Lawrence Jackson DE USC 34. Devin Thomas WR Michigan St. 35. Patrick Lee CB Auburn 36. Carl Nicks OT Nebraska 37. Antoine Cason CB Arizona 38. James Hardy WR Indiana 39. Pat Sims DT Auburn 40. Chilo Rachal OG USC 41. Mario Manningham WR Michigan 42. Calais Campbell DE Miami (FL) 43. Joe Flacco QB Delaware 44. Jerod Mayo ILB Tennessee 45. DaJuan Morgan S North Carolina St. 46. Tracy Porter CB Indiana 47. Erin Henderson OLB Maryland 48. Early Doucet WR L.S.U. 49. Chris Johnson RB East Carolina 50. Curtis Lofton ILB Oklahoma 51. John Carlson TE Notre Dame 52. Fred Davis TE USC 53. Philip Wheeler OLB Georgia Tech 54. Chad Henne QB Michigan 55. Ray Rice RB Rutgers 56. André Woodson QB Kentucky 57. Justin King CB Penn St. 58. Matt Forté FB Tulane 59. Dustin Keller TE Purdue 60. Heath Benedict OT Newberry 61. Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame 62. Charles Godfrey CB Iowa 63. Red Bryant DT Texas A&M 64. Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech 65. Jason Jones DE Eastern Michigan 66. Cliff Avril DE Purdue 67. Kevin Smith RB Central Florida 68. Tavares Gooden OLB Miami (FL) 69. Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas 70. Thomas DeCoud S California 71. Lavelle Hawkins WR California 72. Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech 73. Oniel Cousins OT U.T.E.P. 74. Andre Caldwell WR Florida 75. Dre Moore DT Maryland 76. John David Booty QB USC 77. Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt 78. Jeremy Thompson DE Wake Forest 79. Martellus Bennett TE Texas A&M 80. Donnie Avery WR Houston 81. Xavier Adibi OLB Virginia Tech 82. Jamaal Charles RB Texas 83. Geno Hayes OLB Florida St. 84. Jonathan Goff ILB Vanderbilt 85. Eddie Royal WR Virginia Tech 86. Ali Highsmith OLB L.S.U. 87. Chevis Jackson CB L.S.U. 88. Beau Bell OLB UNLV 89. Tyrell Johnson S Arkansas St. 90. Tashard Choice RB Georgia Tech 91. Jerome Simpson WR Coastal Carolina 92. Roy Schuening OG Oregon St. 93. Ahtyba Rubin DT Iowa St. 94. Tom Zbikowski S Notre Dame 95. Brad Cottam TE Tennessee 96. Shawn Crable OLB Michigan 97. Steve Slaton RB West Virginia 98. Josh Johnson QB San Diego 99. Peyton Hillis FB Arkansas 100. Colt Brennan QB Hawaii Or make it more detailed: QUARTERBACKS: 1. Matt Ryan Boston College 6-43/4 228 4.92 2. Brian Brohm Louisville 6-27/8 230 4.69 3. Joe Flacco Delaware 6-63/8 236 4.80 4. Chad Henne Michigan 6-27/8 230 4.96 5. Andre' Woodson Kentucky 6-4 229 4.86 6. John David Booty USC 6-23/8 218 4.82 7. Colt Brennan Hawaii 6-23/8 207 4.85 8. Josh Johnson San Diego 6-23/4 213 4.55 9. Erik Ainge Tennessee 6-51/2 225 5.00 10. Kevin O'Connell San Diego St. 6-5 225 4.61 11. Dennis Dixon Oregon 6-31/4 195 4.60 12. Sam Keller Nebraska 6-35/8 241 4.91 13. Matt Flynn L.S.U. 6-21/4 231 4.79 14. Kyle Wright Miami (FL) 6-4 220 4.82 15. Anthony Morelli Penn St. 6-35/8 231 5.00 16. Paul Smith Tulsa 6-11/4 208 5.02 17. T.C. Ostrander Stanford 6-21/8 227 4.90 18. Bernard Morris Marshall 6-3 217 4.68 19. Adam Tafralis San Jose St. 6-15/8 230 4.78 20. Alex Brink Washington St. 6-21/4 211 5.05 21. Ricky Santos New Hampshire 6-03/8 209 5.00 RUNNING BACKS 1. Darren McFadden Arkansas 6-11/4 211 4.33 2. Jonathan Stewart Oregon 5-101/4 235 4.48 3. Rashard Mendenhall Illinois 5-105/8 225 4.45 4. Felix Jones Arkansas 5-101/8 207 4.47 5. Chris Johnson East Carolina 5-11 197 4.24 6. Ray Rice Rutgers 5-8 199 4.44 7. Matt Forté Tulane 6-13/8 217 4.46 8. Kevin Smith Central Florida 6-11/8 217 4.60 9. Jamaal Charles Texas 5-11 200 4.38 10. Tashard Choice Georgia Tech 5-101/2 215 4.52 11. Steve Slaton West Virginia 5-91/8 197 4.44 12. Justin Forsett California 5-8 194 4.62 13. Mike Hart Michigan 5-87/8 206 4.67 14. Xavier Omon NW Missouri St. 5-103/4 228 4.59 15. Thomas Brown Georgia 5-83/8 204 4.55 16. Cory Boyd South Carolina 6-01/2 213 4.51 17. Jalen Parmele Toledo 5-111/2 224 4.47 18. Allen Patrick Oklahoma 6-03/4 198 4.56 19. Rafael Little Kentucky 5-83/4 194 4.55 20. Ryan Torain Arizona St. 6-03/8 222 4.64 21. Dantrell Savage Oklahoma St. 5-81/4 187 4.53 22. Anthony Alridge Houston 5-9 170 4.36 23. Chauncey Washington USC 5-113/8 211 4.45 24. Marcus Thomas U.T.E.P. 6-01/4 213 4.60 25. Chad Simpson Morgan St. 5-85/8 216 4.42 26. Yvenson Bernard Oregon St. 5-83/8 204 4.83 27. BenJarvus Green-Ellis Ole Miss 5-105/8 219 4.63 28. Kalvin McRae Ohio 5-91/8 203 4.66 29. Calvin Dawson Louisiana-Monroe 5-81/2 199 4.54 30. Kregg Lumpkin Georgia 5-111/2 226 4.64 31. Tony Temple Missouri 5-87/8 210 4.47 32. Albert Young Iowa 5-81/4 208 4.55 33. Lex Hilliard Montana 5-111/8 231 4.63 34. Andre Callender Boston College 5-103/4 198 4.43 35. Amir Pinnix Minnesota 5-105/8 210 4.59 36. Tim Hightower Richmond 5-117/8 224 4.59 37. Danny Woodhead Chadron St. 5-71/2 197 4.38 FULLBACKS 1. Peyton Hillis Arkansas 6-03/4 240 4.58 2. Owen Schmitt West Virginia 6-2 247 4.73 3. Jacob Hester L.S.U. 5-105/8 226 4.62 4. Carl Stewart Auburn 6-11/4 230 4.69 5. Jerome Felton Furman 5-115/8 241 4.75 6. Jehuu Caulcrick Michigan St. 6-0 254 4.67 7. Mike Cox Georgia Tech 6-01/4 254 4.84 8. Brandon McAnderson Kansas 5-101/8 240 4.91 9. Chris Brown Tennessee 6-01/2 249 4.83 WIDE RECEIVERS 1. Limas Sweed Texas 6-37/8 215 4.52 2. DeSean Jackson California 5-93/4 169 4.35 3. Malcolm Kelly Oklahoma 6-33/4 224 4.55 4. Devin Thomas Michigan St. 6-17/8 216 4.40 5. James Hardy Indiana 6-53/8 217 4.51 6. Mario Manningham Michigan 5-113/4 181 4.45 7. Early Doucet L.S.U. 6-01/8 209 4.59 8. Lavelle Hawkins California 5-11 187 4.52 9. Andre Caldwell Florida 6-01/4 204 4.37 10. Earl Bennett Vanderbilt 5-111/2 209 4.48 11. Donnie Avery Houston 5-11 192 4.45 12. Eddie Royal Virginia Tech 5-95/8 184 4.39 13. Jerome Simpson Coastal Carolina 6-13/4 199 4.47 14. Adarius Bowman Oklahoma St. 6-27/8 223 4.67 15. Jordy Nelson Kansas St. 6-25/8 217 4.51 16. Harry Douglas Louisville 5-111/4 176 4.54 17. Dexter Jackson Appalachian St. 5-91/2 182 4.37 18. William Franklin Missouri 6-0 214 4.37 19. Keenan Burton Kentucky 6-01/2 201 4.46 20. Marcus Smith New Mexico 6-13/8 221 4.51 21. Josh Morgan Virginia Tech 6-01/4 219 4.46 22. Adrian Arrington Michigan 6-27/8 203 4.55 23. Dorien Bryant Purdue 5-93/4 174 4.51 24. Davone Bess Hawaii 5-97/8 194 4.69 25. Darius Reynaud West Virginia 5-91/4 201 4.48 26. D.J. Hall Alabama 6-17/8 193 4.53 27. Maurice Purify Nebraska 6-31/8 224 4.56 28. Marcus Monk Arkansas 6-41/4 215 4.42 29. Kevin Robinson Utah St. 5-111/2 202 4.60 30. Steve Johnson Kentucky 6-17/8 210 4.55 31. Ryan Grice-Mullen Hawaii 5-11 187 4.52 32. Paul Hubbard Wisconsin 6-23/4 221 4.48 33. Arman Shields Richmond 6-03/4 194 4.44 34. Justin Harper Virginia Tech 6-31/2 213 4.56 35. Mario Urrutia Louisville 6-53/8 232 4.61 36. Todd Blythe Iowa St. 6-47/8 214 4.61 37. Marcus Henry Kansas 6-35/8 207 4.49 38. Pierre Garcon Mount Union 5-117/8 210 4.48 39. Joe West U.T.E.P. 6-11/8 213 4.54 40. Lance Leggett Miami (FL) 6-31/8 194 4.43 41. Taj Smith Syracuse 6-03/8 187 4.56 42. Darrell Blackman North Carolina St. 5-10 205 4.55 43. Kenneth Moore Wake Forest 5-103/4 195 4.50 44. Jason Rivers Hawaii 6-11/4 200 4.59 45. Jaymar Johnson Jackson St. 5-111/8 177 4.47 46. Danny Amendola Texas Tech 5-101/2 183 4.63 47. Darnell Jenkins Miami (FL) 5-91/4 187 4.60 48. Mark Bradford Stanford 6-03/4 211 4.68 49. Billy Pittman Texas 5-111/8 189 4.66 50. Evan Moore Stanford 6-55/8 236 4.75 51. Travis Brown New Mexico 6-21/8 202 4.61 52. Brandon Breazell UCLA 5-115/8 160 4.47 53. Brian Paysinger Oregon 6-15/8 206 4.59 54. Shaheer McBride Delaware St. 6-11/2 205 4.68 55. De'Cody Fagg Florida St. 6-11/4 211 4.64 56. Lorne Sam U.T.E.P. 6-23/8 220 4.53 57. Robert Jordan California 5-103/4 168 4.43 58. Bruce Hocker Duquesne 6-31/4 209 4.71 59. Cameron Colvin Oregon 6-13/4 205 4.60 60. Clyde Edwards Grambling St. 5-91/2 179 4.49 61. Ernie Wheelwright Minnesota 6-45/8 219 4.52 62. Keith Brown Alabama 6-21/8 201 4.48 63. Luke Swan Wisconsin 5-117/8 195 4.62 64. Edward Williams Lane 6-35/8 206 4.50 TIGHT ENDS 1. John Carlson Notre Dame 6-47/8 255 4.72 2. Fred Davis USC 6-25/8 250 4.68 3. Dustin Keller Purdue 6-2 242 4.55 4. Martellus Bennett Texas A&M 6-6 259 4.68 5. Brad Cottam Tennessee 6-71/2 270 4.63 6. Martin Rucker Missouri 6-43/4 251 4.71 7. Jermichael Finley Texas 6-4 253 4.82 8. Kellen Davis Michigan St. 6-6 262 4.60 9. Craig Stevens California 6-31/4 254 4.59 10. Jacob Tamme Kentucky 6-31/2 236 4.58 11. Gary Barnidge Louisville 6-55/8 243 4.65 12. Darrell Strong Pittsburgh 6-4 268 4.86 13. Joe Jon Finley Oklahoma 6-6 254 4.81 14. Tom Santi Virginia 6-31/2 250 4.72 15. Joey Haynos Maryland 6-75/8 259 4.92 16. Mike Peterson NW Missouri St. 6-21/8 247 4.59 17. Derek Fine Kansas 6-25/8 251 4.83 18. Adam Bishop Nevada 6-47/8 248 5.00 19. Kolo Kapanui West Texas A&M 6-33/8 271 5.05 20. Brad Listorti Massachusetts 6-31/8 251 4.72 21. Cole Bennett Auburn 6-41/2 246 4.77 OFFENSIVE TACKLES 1. Jake Long Michigan 6-7 313 5.17 2. Ryan Clady Boise St. 6-61/8 309 5.20 3. Jeff Otah Pittsburgh 6-6 322 5.52 4. Chris Williams Vanderbilt 6-6 315 5.17 5. Gosder Cherilus Boston College 6-63/8 314 5.21 6. Sam Baker USC 6-45/8 309 5.50 7. Carl Nicks Nebraska 6-47/8 341 5.14 8. Heath Benedict Newberry 6-47/8 326 5.09 9. Oniel Cousins U.T.E.P. 6-33/4 308 5.11 10. Tony Hills Texas 6-51/8 309 5.30 11. Anthony Collins Kansas 6-5 317 5.54 12. Duane Brown Virginia Tech 6-41/8 315 5.08 13. King Dunlap Auburn 6-81/2 310 5.33 14. Barry Richardson Clemson 6-65/8 320 5.42 15. William Robinson San Diego St. 6-5 297 5.20 16. Geoff Schwartz Oregon 6-61/4 332 5.30 17. Kirk Barton Ohio St. 6-43/8 310 5.01 18. Breno Giacomini Louisville 6-71/8 303 5.20 19. Brandon Keith Northern Iowa 6-51/4 343 5.19 20. Corey Clark Texas A&M 6-53/8 315 5.33 21. David Hale Weber St. 6-53/4 314 5.22 22. Demetrius Bell Northwestern St. 6-5 303 5.22 23. Tyler Polumbus Colorado 6-71/2 312 5.23 24. Shannon Boatman Florida St. 6-51/2 315 4.96 25. Franklin Dunbar Middle Tennessee St. 6-43/4 327 5.60 OFFENSIVE GUARDS 1. Branden Albert Virginia 6-55/8 309 5.17 2. Chilo Rachal USC 6-5 315 5.12 3. Roy Schuening Oregon St. 6-35/8 306 5.25 4. Eric Young Tennessee 6-35/8 310 5.25 5. Kerry Brown Appalachian St. 6-53/8 305 5.25 6. John Greco Toledo 6-43/4 305 5.25 7. Chad Rinehart Northern Iowa 6-5 320 5.41 8. Drew Radovich USC 6-41/2 301 5.38 9. Donald Thomas Connecticut 6-33/8 300 5.00 10. Mike Gibson California 6-31/2 305 5.19 11. Mike McGlynn Pittsburgh 6-41/4 311 5.35 12. Mackenzy Bernadeau Bentley 6-41/8 306 5.25 13. Robert Felton Arkansas 6-35/8 315 5.50 14. Andrew Crummey Maryland 6-45/8 299 5.41 15. Pedro Sosa Rutgers 6-35/8 300 5.25 16. Chris McDuffie Clemson 6-41/8 330 5.27 17. James Blair Western Michigan 6-3 323 5.34 18. Shawn Murphy Utah St. 6-37/8 320 5.37 19. Devin Clark New Mexico 6-35/8 305 5.32 20. Shannon Tevaga UCLA 6-17/8 315 5.19 21. Jordan Grimes Purdue 6-31/4 323 5.82 22. Adam Kraus Michigan 6-51/2 292 5.35 23. Kirk Elder Texas A&M 6-33/4 305 5.23 24. Chester Adams Georgia 6-4 331 5.29 25. Mike Fladell Rutgers 6-61/2 324 5.46 26. Charles Manu Nevada 6-31/8 305 5.27 CENTERS 1. Mike Pollak Arizona St. 6-31/2 301 5.02 2. Jeremy Zuttah Rutgers 6-33/8 303 4.99 3. Steve Justice Wake Forest 6-33/8 293 5.22 4. John Sullivan Notre Dame 6-31/2 301 5.32 5. Kory Lichtensteiger Bowling Green 6-21/4 298 5.22 6. Cody Wallace Texas A&M 6-41/4 296 5.27 7. Jamey Richard Buffalo 6-43/4 295 5.12 8. Fernando Velasco Georgia 6-23/4 318 5.19 9. Matt Spanos USC 6-5 317 5.47 10. Eric Scott Kentucky 6-31/4 298 4.95 11. Adam Spieker Missouri 6-21/8 308 5.31 12. Drew Miller Florida 6-43/4 303 5.08 13. Doug Legursky Marshall 6-1 321 5.22 14. John Masters Michigan St. 6-23/4 295 5.26 DEFENSIVE ENDS 1. Chris Long Virginia 6-3 272 4.75 2. Vernon Gholston Ohio St. 6-3 266 4.67 3. Phillip Merling Clemson 6-41/4 276 4.85 4. Derrick Harvey Florida 6-45/8 271 4.83 5. Quentin Groves Auburn 6-3 259 4.57 6. Lawrence Jackson USC 6-41/4 271 4.76 7. Calais Campbell Miami (FL) 6-73/4 290 5.04 8. Jason Jones Eastern Michigan 6-51/4 273 4.74 9. Chris Ellis Virginia Tech 6-41/4 263 4.71 10. Jeremy Thompson Wake Forest 6-43/8 264 4.75 11. Darrell Robertson Georgia Tech 6-37/8 255 4.75 12. Brian Johnston Gardner-Webb 6-51/8 274 4.66 13. Kendall Langford Hampton 6-51/2 287 4.89 14. Wallace Gilberry Alabama 6-21/4 268 4.93 15. Louis Holmes Arizona 6-35/8 263 4.84 16. Kenny Iwebema Iowa 6-4 274 4.98 17. Titus Brown Mississippi St. 6-21/2 246 4.92 18. Chase Ortiz T.C.U. 6-2 249 4.88 19. Johnny Dingle West Virginia 6-13/8 265 5.00 20. Chris Harrington Texas A&M 6-43/8 264 4.81 21. Bryan Mattison Iowa 6-27/8 290 4.99 22. Marcus Dixon Hampton 6-4 292 5.27 23. Tommy Blake T.C.U. 6-23/4 272 4.80 24. Jeremy Geathers UNLV 6-21/8 256 4.91 25. Adamm Oliver Georgia Tech 6-33/4 268 4.85 26. Dorian Smith Oregon St. 6-11/2 264 5.01 27. Kroy Biermann Montana 6-27/8 246 4.82 28. Joe Clermond Pittsburgh 6-17/8 249 5.09 29. Rudolph Hardie Howard 6-23/8 270 4.80 30. Eric Foster Rutgers 6-15/8 277 4.95 31. Kurt Hout Ferris St. 6-11/4 280 4.89 32. Rob Jackson Kansas St. 6-33/8 257 4.78 33. Antonio Reynolds Tennessee 6-33/4 266 4.83 DEFENSIVE TACKLES 1. Glenn Dorsey L.S.U. 6-11/2 297 5.12 2. Sedrick Ellis USC 6-01/2 309 5.23 3. Kentwan Balmer North Carolina 6-41/2 308 5.28 4. Pat Sims Auburn 6-21/8 310 5.11 5. Trevor Laws Notre Dame 6-03/4 304 5.06 6. Red Bryant Texas A&M 6-41/8 318 5.04 7. Marcus Harrison Arkansas 6-23/4 317 4.98 8. Dre Moore Maryland 6-4 305 4.86 9. Ahtyba Rubin Iowa St. 6-23/4 315 5.22 10. DeMario Pressley North Carolina St. 6-31/8 301 5.14 11. Frank Okam Texas 6-41/2 347 5.29 12. Andre Fluellen Florida St. 6-17/8 296 5.00 13. Letroy Guion Florida St. 6-33/8 303 5.36 14. Maurice Murray New Mexico St. 6-31/4 334 5.10 15. Lionel Dotson Arizona 6-35/8 296 5.39 16. Nick Hayden Wisconsin 6-37/8 291 5.17 17. Carlton Powell Virginia Tech 6-2 292 5.07 18. Barry Booker Virginia Tech 6-33/4 285 5.06 19. Jason Shirley Fresno St. 6-51/4 329 5.02 20. Keilen Dykes West Virginia 6-33/8 306 5.08 21. Frank Morton Tulane 6-2 307 5.44 22. James McClinton Kansas 6-0 293 5.48 23. Derek Lokey Texas 6-13/8 293 5.18 24. Henry Smith Texas A&M 6-21/8 310 5.12 OUTSIDE LINEBACKER 1. Keith Rivers USC 6-21/4 241 4.54 2. Erin Henderson Maryland 6-23/4 244 4.73 3. Cliff Avril Purdue 6-27/8 253 4.51 4. Tavares Gooden Miami (FL) 6-11/4 234 4.65 5. Xavier Adibi Virginia Tech 6-13/4 232 4.69 6. Geno Hayes Florida St. 6-07/8 226 4.64 7. Ali Highsmith L.S.U. 5-115/8 230 4.75 8. Beau Bell UNLV 6-11/4 244 4.75 9. Shawn Crable Michigan 6-47/8 245 4.64 10. Gary Guyton Georgia Tech 6-15/8 245 4.47 11. Wesley Woodyard Kentucky 6-03/8 227 4.51 12. Jordon Dizon Colorado 5-117/8 229 4.75 13. Bryan Kehl B.Y.U. 6-21/4 242 4.68 14. Stanford Keglar Purdue 6-15/8 239 4.58 15. Bruce Davis UCLA 6-25/8 252 4.78 16. Ezra Butler Nevada 6-11/2 245 4.51 17. Marcus Howard Georgia 6-01/2 237 4.42 18. Steve Octavien Nebraska 5-115/8 238 4.67 19. Larry Grant Ohio St. 6-1 235 4.71 20. Angelo Craig Cincinnati 6-4 252 5.00 21. Robert James Arizona St. 5-101/4 219 4.70 22. Curtis Johnson Clark Atlanta 6-25/8 242 4.69 23. Alvin Bowen Iowa St. 6-11/8 223 4.75 24. Lamar Myles Louisville 6-01/2 230 4.61 25. Curtis Gatewood Vanderbilt 6-2 248 4.74 26. Bryan Smith McNeese St. 6-23/8 231 4.75 27. Nick Watkins Clemson 6-01/2 223 4.73 28. Thomas Williams USC 6-07/8 238 4.86 29. Mike Humpal Iowa 6-21/2 244 4.86 30. David Vobora Idaho 6-11/4 236 4.73 31. Marcus Richardson Troy 5-117/8 235 4.56 32. Durell Mapp North Carolina 6-07/8 227 4.69 33. Chris Graham Michigan 5-11 232 4.55 34. Malik Jackson Louisville 6-13/4 230 4.62 35. Marcus Buggs Vanderbilt 5-103/8 232 4.65 36. Matt Castelo San Jose St. 5-101/8 225 4.58 37. Anthony Hoke Cincinnati 6-01/4 238 4.72 INSIDE LINEBACKER 1. Dan Connor Penn St. 6-3 233 4.67 2. Jerod Mayo Tennessee 6-11/4 242 4.54 3. Curtis Lofton Oklahoma 6-0 246 4.78 4. Philip Wheeler Georgia Tech 6-17/8 248 4.67 5. Jonathan Goff Vanderbilt 6-2 245 4.63 6. Spencer Larson Arizona 6-13/4 238 4.98 7. Jolonn Dunbar Boston College 6-01/2 231 4.85 8. Ben Moffitt South Florida 6-07/8 224 4.59 9. J Leman Illinois 6-13/4 245 4.90 10. Jameel McClain Syracuse 6-03/4 249 4.77 11. Vince Hall Virginia Tech 5-11 232 5.08 12. Rodrick Johnson Oklahoma St. 6-21/4 252 4.85 13. Red Keith Central Michigan 5-107/8 240 4.87 14. Steve Allen West Texas A&M 6-01/2 236 4.86 15. Marc Magro West Virginia 6-15/8 244 4.82 CORNERBACK 1. Leodis McKelvin Troy 5-101/4 190 4.38 2. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Tennessee St. 6-11/2 184 4.33 3. Mike Jenkins South Florida 5-101/4 197 4.40 4. Aqib Talib Kansas 6-03/4 202 4.45 5. Patrick Lee Auburn 6-0 200 4.42 6. Antoine Cason Arizona 6-01/4 191 4.48 7. Tracy Porter Indiana 5-107/8 188 4.37 8. Justin King Penn St. 5-107/8 192 4.31 9. Charles Godfrey Iowa 5-113/4 207 4.44 10. Brandon Flowers Virginia Tech 5-93/4 189 4.58 11. Tyvon Branch Connecticut 5-113/8 204 4.31 12. Terrell Thomas USC 6-01/2 202 4.49 13. Chevis Jackson L.S.U. 6-0 192 4.62 14. Jack Ikegwuonu Wisconsin 5-101/2 194 4.50 15. Orlando Scandrick Boise St. 5-10 192 4.32 16. Terrence Wheatley Colorado 5-95/8 187 4.37 17. Jack Williams Kent St. 5-9 178 4.35 18. Trae Williams South Florida 5-9 193 4.51 19. DeJuan Tribble Boston College 5-83/4 189 4.58 20. Antwaun Molden Eastern Kentucky 6-03/4 198 4.39 21. Zack Bowman Nebraska 6-01/8 197 4.43 22. Dwight Lowery San Jose St. 5-111/8 201 4.59 23. Jonathan Wilhite Auburn 5-91/2 185 4.38 24. Justin Tryon Arizona St. 5-91/8 190 4.50 25. Simeon Castille Alabama 6-03/8 195 4.70 26. Darnell Terrell Missouri 6-13/4 203 4.48 27. Jonathan Zenon L.S.U. 5-113/4 191 4.55 28. Wilrey Fontenot Arizona 5-83/4 171 4.41 29. Glenn Sharpe Miami (FL) 5-111/2 184 4.59 30. Marcus Walker Oklahoma 5-103/8 191 4.53 31. Brandon Sumrall Southern Miss 5-97/8 195 4.64 32. Matterral Richardson Arkansas 5-11 194 4.68 33. Justin McKinney Kansas St. 5-93/8 188 4.66 34. Jerrid Gaines Miami (OH) 5-105/8 183 4.53 35. Brian Witherspoon Stillman 5-103/8 175 4.29 36. Trey Brown UCLA 5-81/2 186 4.65 SAFETY 1. Kenny Phillips Miami (FL) 6-21/4 212 4.55 2. Reggie Smith Oklahoma 6-01/2 199 4.45 3. DaJuan Morgan North Carolina St. 6-01/8 205 4.54 4. Thomas DeCoud California 6-13/8 207 4.50 5. Tyrell Johnson Arkansas St. 5-117/8 207 4.45 6. Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame 5-111/4 211 4.55 7. Craig Steltz L.S.U. 6-13/8 213 4.60 8. Josh Barrett Arizona St. 6-13/4 223 4.35 9. Quintin Demps U.T.E.P. 5-117/8 206 4.38 10. Jamar Adams Michigan 6-2 212 4.59 11. Marcus Griffin Texas 5-101/4 201 4.75 12. Michael Grant Arkansas 5-101/4 186 4.37 13. David Roach T.C.U. 6-03/8 210 4.51 14. Caleb Campbell Army 6-13/4 229 4.60 15. Nehemiah Warrick Michigan St. 6-07/8 211 4.54 16. D.J. Wolfe Oklahoma 5-111/8 207 4.61 17. Dominique Barber Minnesota 6-01/4 210 4.71 18. Jonathan Hefney Tennessee 5-77/8 190 4.56 19. Chris Horton UCLA 6-11/8 212 4.59 20. Dennis Keyes UCLA 6-05/8 205 4.62 21. Eric Wicks West Virginia 5-113/4 210 4.69 22. Brian Bonner T.C.U. 5-107/8 196 4.64 23. Husain Abdullah Washington St. 5-117/8 204 4.66 24. Jamie Silva Boston College 5-103/4 204 4.82 25. D.J. Parker Virginia Tech 5-111/4 192 4.62 26. Pig Brown Missouri 5-111/8 198 4.59 27. Bobbie Williams Bethune-Cookman 6-01/4 214 4.62 28. Tony Joiner Florida 5-117/8 206 4.60 29. Joe Fields Syracuse 6-01/4 204 4.55 30. Nate Lyles Virginia 5-105/8 203 4.46 31. Marcus Watts Kansas St. 6-05/8 190 4.58 I doubt we need to list kicker, punter, or long snapper, LOL

Are we going to have a master list of players that will be updated as selections are made? I have run these types of drafts in the past and I took lists from a draft site with the top ?? players at each position and put them in a locked thread. Everytime a pick was made I noted it alongside the player on the list. When people selected, they could easily see which players were remaining to be selected and their ranking per the site used. It seemed to help a lot and speed things up.

Alright!! Thanks ConnorBear, now that leaves 3 to go DBDB took Houston & ConnorBear took Tennessee & San Diego - once the chart is updated the only teams left should be: Jacksonville Washington Tampa Bay Anyone want to step up to the podium??? LOL

Looking things over, excluding the Browns, we have 3 teams left Jacksonville Tennessee - ConnorBear San Diego - ConnorBear Washington Tampa Bay DBDB said he would take Houston and it has yet to re updated on the list - Connor just took TEN & SDC If I have it right: Balta 1 team ConnorBear 2 teams Pix 3 teams Parker 2 teams Fenom 2 teams Askum 2 teams DBDB 1 team Hester 3 teams NeoBear 2 teams Drunken 2 teams Mad 2 teams Brietch 2 teams Prophet 3 teams SoxFan 1 team By my count that makes 28 of the 31 teams for round 1 taken. 3 to go, we need to get this started - anyone else want to sign up?