
ASHKUM BEAR
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Your score is: 15610 (GRADE: A+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 18 (TENN): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+) Round 1 Pick 20 (DEN): O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A+) Round 1 Pick 32 (N.O.): Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson (A) Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (A-) Round 2 Pick 19 (DEN): T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin (A) Round 2 Pick 20 (CLE): Budda Baker, FS, Washington ( Round 3 Pick 3: Roderick Johnson, OT, Florida State (B+) Round 3 Pick 12 (N.O.): Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A) Round 3 Pick 18 (DEN): Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy (A) Round 3 Pick 38 (SEA): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A-) Round 4 Pick 6 (LAC): Jaleel Johnson, DT, Iowa (A) Round 4 Pick 14 (IND): Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo ( Round 5 Pick 7 (LAC): Devonte Fields, OLB/DE, Louisville (B-) Round 5 Pick 28 (G.B.): Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (B+) Round 5 Pick 38 (G.B.): Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (B+) Your Future Picks: 2018 Round 1 Pick 2019 Round 1 Pick
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I think we all want instant gratification, but it doesn't always work that way. You have pointed out many players that should get more time before we draft over them again and consider those players busts. If they move Fuller and Hall to S, I find it hard to draft high at S. They would have Demps, Amos, Quarty-Jones, Fuller, Hall, Bush, Carson-Houston and a few others. Sure, I would love Adams/Hooker/Baker but we are looking at only keeping 4-5 on the roster and the house is already full. Drafting more just means we have to cut more creating more holes. I also think Bullard should be given the opportunity to be a main piece on the D before we draft over him. I think boosting the offense should be a priority. Get a QB with big upside, TE, swing OT, and WR. That is 4/7 picks. On Defense we can use a CB, DLineman, and OLB.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000079...33-top-prospect Stinger brought this up, and it is interesting to see who someone may project out to be. Thought I would start a string were pages could be attached to look at.
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Leonard Fournette is a top 5 can't miss RB. He may not be on our board but some team may want to jump ahead of Jax and trade to our spot. This would be a blessing imo. #3 is too rich for S and possibly the QBs. Allen would be the only player being a 5T worth the money. Thomas would be good but we have a lot of money invested at OLB already and I think by trading down we can get a player just as good in Derek Barnett. I would not rule out QB bc Glennon is on a one year deal basically being paid around the middle of the QB pack. Pace has drafted a player each draft that he has brought in for a personal workouts, and all the QBs have or will be brought in. Pace also has to know if he doesn't get a QB with our first pick, he will either have to trade up to get one or take a middle of the road prospect and take alot of media heat for not addressing the position earlier. It is all a guess and that makes it fun. I would be happy with Garrett, Thomas, Allen, or Adams. I would understand taking a QB also because they are the keys to long term stability. It would be a blast to get together with this crew for drinks and the draft, I suppose we do online but the draft is one holiday I enjoy.
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I can see NE taking him with the late 2nd. I don't worry much about having an instant player but a long term answer and possible probowler is worth it. Previous 3rds. Bullard didn't play much but should be ready to take over for Unrein. Grasu may take 3 years, I think they cut Sitton after the seasonand move Whithair to G.
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That was the highest I've scored. The C- on Sidney Jones hurt and a few B's taking needs or upside hurt also, but I played with heart over head.
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Saturday morning bored at work. Missed one or two guys I targeted, but this would go a long ways for a rebuild. A future backfield of Sidney Jones, Jamal Adams, Eddie Jackson, and Quincy Wilson could be interesting. I actually pulled up the trade value chart and took on a ton of value trading down, then traded back up a few times to get back into the 3rd. Your score is: 14934 (GRADE: A+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 12 (CLE): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+) Round 2 Pick 1 (CLE): Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson (A) Round 2 Pick 17 (WASH): Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (A) Round 3 Pick 2 (S.F.): Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (A+) Round 3 Pick 3: Roderick Johnson, OT, Florida State (B+) Round 3 Pick 18 (DEN): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington © Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A) Round 3 Pick 29 (G.B.): Elijah Qualls, DT, Washington (A+) Round 4 Pick 4: Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (B+) Round 4 Pick 7 (WASH): Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama ( Round 4 Pick 10: Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU (A) Round 5 Pick 3: Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming (B-) Round 5 Pick 17 (S.F.): Hunter Dimick, DE, Utah (B+) Round 7 Pick 3: Jake Elliott, K, Memphis (B+) Your Future Picks: 2018 Round 1 Pick 2019 Round 1 Pick
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It actually makes sense. Jay is still the best option we have and the best QB in Bears history. HAFD!
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Trading with Carolina would almost be perfect if we want to get the QB out of the way. I doubt NYJ take QB if Adams/Hooker are there. We would have to worry about a team trading up with the Chargers to leap frog us.
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First-Pick.com mock trying to work Jones in and different scenarios. . 1 Mitchell Trubisky QB 2-Garrett Bolles OT 3-Sidney Jones CB -traded down for 4th and 5th 4-Chad Hansen WR 4-Jordan Leggett TE 4-Jaleel Johnson DT 5-Damonte Kazee CB 5-Devonte Fields OLB 7-Zane Gonzalez K 1-Jon Allen DT 2-Budda Baker FS 3-Sidney Jones CB same trade 4-Chad Wheeler OT 4-Jordan Leggett TE 4-Kareem Hunt RB 5-Chad Kelly QB 5-Kenny Golliday WR 7-Zane Gonzalez 1-Jamal Adams SS 1-Deshone Kizer QB trade 2nd and 4th 3-Sidney Jones CB same trade down 4-Jordan Leggett TE 4-Jaleel Johnson DT 5-Damonte Kazee CB 5-Devinte Fields OLB 7-Zane Gonzalez K
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It won't be long until we find out, 28 days and counting. I have a hunch they go QB if they have first choice, meaning Garrett and probably Thomas are gone. QBs are rarely immediate impact players and at some point they have to start taking risks and go for the long run.. Trading down would be great too, that would mean another team wants the QB we can take and are willing to overpay. I would support which ever direction they go, but for some reason I think he has a QB targeted and will pull the trigger if things fall right.
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I see Pace taking the first QB to be honest. If he wants a DB, he will trade down some.
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I would not be surprised if they take another OLB high. Looking down the road you can see the Bears moving on from Houston, McPhee, and Young. This draft is supposedly deep at the position, so if they like one, go for it. We say we need a great 5T, but they have Bullard ready to step in. On accounts Ive read, Bullard will be a great run stopper and eventually develop pass rush ability. Lets see how he develops. They can find late round depth or a FA to help out this season. CB-We have more than enough under contract. The problem is having that legit #1. This draft is deep, so I expect one to be drafted and if they can get Sidney Jones, he can recover why they sort through the many we already have. S-same as CB, they have a bunch under contract to find more about out. Taking one high could happen or they can wait it out and see if Demps, Amos, Quarty-Jones, Bush, and Carson-Houston have. TE-Talent is deep and the Bears need a long term solution and the WRs may need help. With Sims signed, going for a great receiving threat may be the way they go. Njoku, Engram, Hodges are names to watch high (2-3). OT-The Bears could use two OT's down the road. I think going with the same crew as last year is fine, but in 2018 they might want to cut Sitton and Massie and save cap. Leno will be a little more eager since he is playing for his big contract, let's see how he does. Getting a young RT and a swing OT is in the two year plan. LT depends on Leno. WR-This year we have a handful of one year prove its. They will take a shot on one in the draft between rd 2-4. QB-This is a mystery on what the plan is. They can shock us and take one in the 1st or take a shot on Chad Kelly with a 5th. Pace will not go another year without drafting one. No position is ruled out, I am looking at some logic and justifying why they may draft a certain way.
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I think they stick with same group one more season. 2018 will be revamped. Lenos contract expires. Sitton and Massie will likely be cut, Sitton would be due 7million or his dead cap is 666,000. Massie is only due 4million or dead cap of 500,000. Grasu could then take over C and Whitehair to LG. Leno may or may not be re-signed, so fnding two OT's by 2018 will be a priority.
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Put him on the hot seat and see how he responds. With competition already brought in, he should have felt the heat turned up and now this lights another flame. He has a lot to prove.
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You know I would love this one.
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I see some mocks where that happens and i am encouraged, like Watson ornKizer falling. . Then many mocks have ARZ, KC, HOU,PIT, and NO picking the QBs late leaving the cupboard bare. I think trading our 4th and 2nd to move up nets us the 26th pick. It may take our 3rd to get up enough for anyone except Mahomes. I know Pace would do it if he believes in the QB. Regardless, getting a high profile QB in the next year or two needs to happen.
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My question about this coming draft is if the Bears seriously address the QB position. We know 3 is too high and at 36 we would be lucky if one fell. Trading down will be tough as many explained, so what do we do? Count on Glennon and build the D, trade up to get Kizer or Watson, or grab a late rounder like Peterman who can be our Orton or better with a 3rd and look to 2018 for a better prospect? I think Peterman can be decent in about 2 years. If they avoid the QBs, I really hope they go all in in 2018. Better class for sure, but can Bear fans take another poor to mediocre season?
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I agree. Bullard-graded as a high 2nd rounder. He should be ready to start and could excel. Hall-the CB I wanted and he showed glimpses of talent. Injury limited him but he should be better yr 2. Carson-Houston-small school stud that had more to learn. Eventually he will take off. Bush-still has gas left in tank. His limited playing time shows he made strides, still has a way to go With a year of nfl experience, this is the year they take the next step. Push their position competition and be ready to step in when called on.
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Peterman would be a good pick, but no way should they move up for him. He would be over drafted with the high 3rd and is a good value around round 4. If the Bears take him with the 3rd it would be understandable since it is a thin class, but do not give up picks. If you are gonna trade up, trade up for a higher ceiling. The timing of the Sanchez signing had nothing to do with pro days either, just the Bears having insurance in case they miss on a QB or that QB isn't ready to be a #2 right away.
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Looks like they had a plan are quietly put it together. They spent a little more on Sims than you would have expected but now it is coming together. Speed WRs in Wheaton and Wright and a bruiser back in Howard.
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Packers are in desperation mode. They never signed fa before like this. There recent drafting must have been bad for them to start signing fa's.
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I don't think they dislike the QBs in this class, just not going to over draft one. Even a top 5 candidate would take time to adjust and not be ready the first portion of the season. Shaw is coming off a broken leg and may not be ready also. Sanchez is insurance/depth and if the rookie catches on right away then he is cut. They will take one between rounds 2-4 imo, we may get lucky and have Kizer, Watson, or Mahomes.
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Unfortunately this isn't the year. If they are lucky, one of the top 3 is available with the 2nd RD pick but doubtful.
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They have a lot of mediocre or worse, but many are still young were they haven't had enough time in the league to really evaluate. They are missing a ball hawk S and shut down CB IMO, which leaves Hooker or Lattimore as possibilities RD1 and they both have health questions. Would 2nd round FS prospects Budda Baker or Marcus Williams be a better gamble. I like Williams, has a little more height. Sidney Jones would be my shut down CB choice, he says he will be able to play this season but I would still redshirt him. 1. Allen 3T/5T or Thomas OLB/5T - could make a case for either 2. Watson/Kizer QB or Marcus Williams/Baker FS - if one of the QBs there have to take. Otherwise FS 3-Sidney Jones CB-many would hate drafting him, but could be franchise shutdown CB for years. We have many 1 yr stop gaps 4-Jordan Leggett TE-Butt, Hodges, or Sprinkle considered-great class and need a long term solution 4-Eddie Jakson FS or Peterman QB -depends on round 2 5-Ryan Switzer WR-future slot and KR or Holliday WR 7-Zane Gonzalez K-because finding a gem at a position this late is tough. Missing out on that OT, but can sign another stoo gap and shoot for 2018 class.