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Demitrius Byrd from LSU. Man, it seems like something like this happens every couple years I remember when Dennis Weathersby from Oregon Stae was shot like 3 days before the draft. Hope to see him recover. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4083554

More quasi-love for Massaquoi. I don't know whether to start buying the hype, or be very, very nervous: “I love (Georgia WR) Mohamed Massaquoi. Anyone that interviews him will love him, but he was not even the best receiver on his own team. (Freshman WR) A.J. Green was the best. (Massaquoi) does not have top-end speed and he has some stiffness to him. He’ll always lack top-end (speed), but he will be a very good No. 2.” http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr.../wwhi042009.htm And CNN/SI has him rated ahead of Robiskie: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...osition/WR.html

Kenny Britt is flaky. Darrius Heyward-Bey's hands and route-running are suspect. Hakeem Nicks was overweight and not in great shape when the Ravens worked him out Friday. In other words, the receivers are a suspect group, and a few of them we thought would be picked in the first round are going in the second. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ...20/draft/1.html Let 'em fall. The Bears will scoop 'em up...

The rest of the draft... 5 137 Seattle(from Detroit) Goodson, Mike 138 Atlanta(from STL) Green, Tyronne 139 Kansas City Miller, Roy 140 Chicago(From Sea/Den) McRath, Gerald 141 Philadephia (From Clev) Fletcher, Bradley 142 Cincinati Fiametta, Tony 143 Atlanta (From Oakland) Hughes, Brandon 144 Jacksonville Davis, Nate 145 Green Bay Coffee, Glen 146 San Francisco Volmer, Sebastian 147 Buffalo Harris, Nic 148 San Diego Sheets, Kory 149 Denver Cantwell, Hunter 150 Washington Moore, Devin 151 NY Giants (from NO) Underwood, Brandon 152 Houston Munnerlyn, Captain 153 Philadelphia(from NYJ) Hill, Anthony 154 Chicago Lewis Cornelius 155 Tampa Bay Wilson, John Parker 156 Dallas Hill, Sammie Lee 157 Philadelphia Vasquez, Louis 158 Minnesota Newton, Cecil 159 Philadelphia (From NE) Turner, Patrick 160 St. Louis (from ATL) Davis, James 161 Miami Morrah, Cameron 162 Baltimore Parish, Augustus 163 Carolina Walker, Vance 164 NY Giants Knox, Johnnie 165 Indianapolis Bell, Joel 166 Dallas (from Tenn) Brandstatter, Tom 167 Arizona Shipley, AQ 168 Pittsburgh Ogletree, Kevin 169 Pittsburgh Joseph, Frantz 170 New England Quinn, Richard 171 San Francisco Appleby, Antonio 172 Dallas Robinson, Lee 173 Tennessee Ellison, Kevin 6 174 Detroit Baker, Chris, DE Hampton 175 Kansas City Wallace, Mike, WR 176 Atlanta(from STL) Bennet, Michael, DE Texas Tech 177 Cleveland Johnson, Jeremiah, RB Oregon 178 Seattle Gibson, Brandon, WR Washington St. 179 Cincinnati Johnson, Ian, RB Boise St. 180 Jacksonville Palmer, Ashlee, OLB Ole Miss 181 Miami (from Oakland) Allen, Roger, OG San Diego St. 182 Green Bay Morestead, Thomas, P 183 Buffalo Boone, Alex OT Ohio State 184 San Francisco Foster, Brooks, WR North Carolina 185 Denver Shaughnessy, Matt, DE Wisconsin 186 Washington Thomas, Jamie OG Maryland 187 Green Bay (from NO) Gill, John, DE Northwestern 188 Houston Williams, Edwin OC/OG Maryland 189 San Diego Greene, Courtney, SS Rutgers 190 Chicago Kelly, Aaron, WR Clemson 191 Tampa Bay McDonald, Clinton, DT Memphis 192 Detroit (From Dallas) Burnett, Joseph, CB Central Florida 193 NY Jets Huber, Kevin, P Cincinnati 194 Philadephia Phillips, John, TE Virginia 195 Philadephia(from Minn) Johnson, Gartrell, RB Colorado St. 196 St. Louis (from ATL) Mauaga, Joh, ILB Nevada 197 Dallas (from Miami ) Guice, Dudley, WR Northwestern St. (LA) 198 Baltimore Everette Pedesleaux DT/DE N Iowa 199 New England CJ Spillman FS Marshall 200 NY Giants Gregory Toler/CB/St. Paul’s College 201 Indianapolis Dan Skuta LB Grand Valley ST 202 Carolina Orion Martin De VT #207 203 Tennessee Darryl Rihard DT GT 204 Arizona Bear Pascoe, TE, Fresno State 205 Pittsburgh Khalif Mitchell DT/DE E arolina 206 Tennessee Pannel Egboh De Stanfurd 207 New England Lydon Murtha OT Nebr #217 208 Dallas Demetrius Byrd WR LSU 209 Cincinnati DE Zach PotterNebraska 7 210 Dallas (From Detroit) Brice McCain CB Utah 211 St. Louis Ra'Shon harris DT ORegon 212 Kansas City Stephen Hodge SS TcU 213 Seattle Deandre Levy OLB Wisc 214 Miami (from Cleve) Victor Butler DEOLB Oregon St 215 Cincinati Kenny McKinley Wr S Carolina 216 Oakland Ian campbell DE KSU 217 Tampa Bay (From Jax) Derek walker DE Illinois 218 Green Bay ROBERT BREWSTER, G, BALL ST. 219 San Francisco Pierre Walters DEOLB E Illinois 220 Buffalo Daniel Gronkowski, TE Maryland 221 Minnesota (from Wash) taurus Johnson WR S Florida 222 New Orleans Cory Smith OLB Cincy 223 Houston Andy Kemp OG Wisc 224 San Diego Deon Butler WR Penn St 225 Denver Greg Orton WR Purdue 226 Pittsburgh (from TB) Tim Jamison Deolb Michigan 227 Dallas Garrett Reynolds OT UNC 228 NY Jets Jamarko Simmons WR 229 TB (from Chicago) Will Davis DE illinois 230 Philadelphia BRIAN HOYER QB MICHIGAN ST. 231 Minnesota Nader Abdullah Dt Ohio St 232 Jacksonville(from Miami) Javarris williams RB Tenn ST 233 TB (From Balt) CB Morgan Trent MICH 234 New England Jerraud Powers CB Auburn 235 Denver (from Atlanta) Johnny Williams OLB Kentucky 236 Indianapolis Arian Foster RB Tenn 237 Miami (from Carolina) Will Johnson DT Mich 238 NY Giants DAVID BUEHLER/K/USC 239 Tennessee Cary Harris CB USC 240 Arizona Keegan Herring, RB The Arizona State University 241 Pittsburgh Chris Clemons SS Clemson 242 Tennessee Andrew Gardner OT GT 243 Washington Phillip Hunt OLB Houston 244 San Francisco Don carey CB Norkolk St 245 Seattle Curtis Taylor FS LSU #196 246 Chicago RYAN MOUTON, CB, HAWAII 247 Seattle Myron Pryor NT Kentucky 248 Seattle Quan cosby WR Txas 249 Cincinati Sammie Stroughter WR Oregon St 250 Jacksonville jairus Wynn DE Georgia 251 Chicago Ramon Foster, OT, Tennessee 252 Cincinati Anthony Parker OL Tenn 253 Jacksonville Darius Passmore WR Marshall 254 Arizona QB Drew Willy, BUffalo 255 Detroit Vaughn Martin, DT, Western Ontario 256 Kansas City Glover Quin CB N Mexico

This weekend, I played GM for the Bears in an online 7 round mock draft. Here's what we ended up with: 2) Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama - With Robiskie gone, this was a pretty easy decision, as I didn't want to reach for Iglesias or Massaquoi. 3) Brandon Tate, WR, North Carolina - A bit of an injury risk, but the best potential of any WR left, although I considered Jarret Dillard as well. 4) Henry Melton, DE, Texas - A guy the Bears appear to like a lot with the speed they are looking for off the end. 5a) Gerald McRath, LB, Southern Miss - Not on my radar really, but the highest rated player on the board for me with the versatility and speed at LB the Bears look for. 5b) Cornelius Lewis, OL, Tennessee St - Top small-school offensive lineman who can play inside and outside. 6) Aaron Kelly, WR, Clemson - Considered taking him in the 5th, so it was really nice to have him fall here. 7a) Ryan Mouton, CB, Hawaii - Nice developmental zone corner with great speed and has even lined up at WR from time to time. 7b) Ramon Foster, OL, Tennessee - Highest rated player left on my board. Another versatile OL. UDFA (just for fun) Cullen Harper, QB, Clemson Marcus Mailei, FB, Weber St Dominique Edison, WR, Stephen F. Austin Manny Johnson, WR, Oklahoma Stryker Sulak, DE, Missouri John Faletose, DT, UC-Davis Here's how the draft went: Draft Order Round 1 1 Detroit - Mathew Stafford QB Georgia 2 St. Louis - Jason Smith OT Baylor 3 Kansas City - Aaron Curry LB Wake Forrest 4 Seattle - Mark Sanchez QB USC 5 Cleveland - Brian Orakpo DE/OLB Texas 6 Cincinati - Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 7 Oakland - Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech 8 Jacksonville Michael Oher OT Ole Miss 9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio St 10 San Francisco - BJ Raji DT Boston College 11 Buffalo - Andre Smith OT Alabama 12 Denver - Rey Maualuga LB USC 13 Washington - Everette Brown DE FSU 14 New Orleans - Chris Wells RB Ohio St 15 Houston - Brian Cushing LB USC 16 San Diego - Tyson Jackson DE LSU 17 N. Y. Jets - Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia 18 Denver (from Chicago) - Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn State 19 Tampa Bay - Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri 20 Detroit(from Dallas) - Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State 21 Philadelphia - Donald Brown RB Conn 22 Minnesota - Eben Britton OT Arizona 23 New England - Vontae Davis DB Illinois 24 Atlanta - Peria Jerry DT Ole Miss 25 Miami - Clay Matthews LB USC 26 Baltimore - Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland 27 Indianapolis - Hakeem Nicks WR UNC 28 Buffalo (From Philadelphia From Car) - Robert Ayers DE Tennessee 29 NY Giants - William Beatty OT Conn 30 Tennessee - Percy Harvin WR/RB Florida 31 Arizona - Connor Barwin DE/OLB Cincinnati 32 Pittsburgh - Alex Mack C CAL Round 2 33 Detroit - James Laurinaitis LB Ohio St 34 New England (from Kansas City) - Kenny Britt WR Rutgers 35 St. Louis - Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest 36 Cleveland - Darius Butler CB UConn 37 Seattle - DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt 38 Cincinnati - Max Unger OL Oregon 39 Jacksonville - Brian Robiskie Wr OSU 40 Oakland - Ron Brace DT BC 41 Green Bay - Clint Sintim LB Virginia 42 Buffalo - Larry English DE/OLB N Illinois 43 San Francisco - Lawrence Sidbury DE/OLB Richmond 44 Miami(From Wash) - Louis Delmas S WMU 45 NYG (From NO) - Sean Smith DB Utah 46 Houston - Ziggy Hood DT Mizzou 47 New England(From SD) - Michael Johnson DE GT 48 Denver - Jaron Gilbert DE San Jose St 49 Chicago - Rashad Johnson S Alabama 50 Cleveland (from Tampa Bay) - LeSean MCoy RB Pitt 51 Dallas - Duke Robinson OG OK 52 NY Jets - Fili Moala DT USC 53 Philadephia - Patrick Chung S Oregon 54 Minnesota - Derick Williams WR PSU 55 Atlanta - Jared Cook TE S Carolina 56 Miami - Ramses Barden WR Cal-Poly 57 Baltimore - Paul Kruger DE Utah 58 New England - Eric Wood OL Louisville 59 Carolina - Josh Freeman QB Kansas State 60 NY Giants - Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma 61 Indianapolis - Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 62 Tennessee - Darry Beckwith ILB LSU 63 Arizona - Shonne Green RB Iowa 64 Pittsburgh - Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma Round 3 65 Detroit - William Moore S Missouri 66 St. Louis - Louis Murphy WR Florida 67 Kansas City - Andy Levitre OG Oregon St 68 Seattle -Jamon Meredith OT S Carolina 69 Dallas (From Cle) - Sherrod Martin DB Troy 70 Cincinnati - Marcus Freeman OLB OSU 71 Oakland - Chip Vaughn S Wake Forrest 72 Jacksonville - Jairus Byrd DB Oregon 73 Green Bay - Shawn Nelson TE S Miss 74 San Francisco - Andre Brown RB NC State 75 Buffalo - Chase Coffman TE Missouri 76 NY Jets (from NO) - Mike Mickens CB Cincy 77 Houston - Rashas Jennings RB Liberty 78 San Diego - Tyron McKenzie LB S Florida 79 Denver - Johnathan Luigs C Arkansas 80 Washington - Asher Allen CB Georgia 81 Tampa Bay - Coye Francies CB SJSU 82 Detroit (From Dallas) - Gerald Cadogan OT Penn St 83 Green Bay (From NY Jets) - Alex Magee DE/DT Purdue 84 Denver (From Chicago) - Darcel McBath S Texas Tech 85 Philadelphia - Mike Thomas WR Arizona 86 Minnesota - Macho Harris CB VT 87 Miami - Kevin Barnes CB Maryland 88 Baltimore - James Casey TE Rice 89 New England - Cody Brown DE/OLB UConn 90 Atlanta - Michael Hamlin S Clemson 91 NY Giants - Antonie Caldwell C Alabama 92 Indianapolis - Mitch King DT/DE Iowa 93 Carolina - Mohammed Massaquoi WR Georgia 94 Tennessee - Rhett Bomar QB SHSU 95 Arizona - Scott McKillop LB PITT 96 Pittsburgh - Herman Johnson OG LSU 97 New England (comp pick) - Dannell Ellerbe ILB Georgia 98 Cincinnati (comp pick) - Ricky Jean Franois DT LSU 99 Chicago (comp pick) - Brandon Tate WR UNC 100 NY Giants (comp pick) - Cornelius Ingraw TE Florida Round 4 101 Dallas (From Detroit) - Jarrett Dillard WR Rice 102 Kansas City - Davis Veikune DE/OLB Hawaii 103 St. Louis - Pat White QB WVA 104 Cleveland - Austin Collie WR BYU 105 Seattle - Troy Kropog OT Tulane 106 Cincinnati - Dorell Scott DT Clemson 107 Jacksonville - Terrence Taylor NT Michigan 108 Miami (from Oak) - Keenan Lewis CB Oregon St 109 Green Bay - Donald Washington CB Ohio St 110 Buffalo - Kraig Urbik OG Wisc 111 San Francisco - Stephen McGee QB Texas A&M 112 Houston - Derek Pegues FS Miss St 113 San Diego - Fenuki Tupou OT Oregon 114 Denver - Corvey Irvin DT UGA 115 NY Jets (from Wash) - TJ Lang OG/OT E Mich 116 New Orleans - Chris Owens CB SJSU 117 Dallas - Jasper Brinkley LB S Carolina 118 NO (from NYJ) - David Bruton FS Notre Dame 119 Chicago - Henry Melton DE Texas 120 Tampa Bay - Kaluka Maiava LB USC 121 Buffalo (From Philadelphia) - Emanuel Cook S S Carolin 122 Houston (From Minnesota) - Jonathan Casillas OLB Wisc 123 Baltimore - Kyle Moore DE/OLB USC 124 New England - Cedric Peerman RB UVA 125 Atlanta - Jason Williams OLB Western Illinois 126 Oakland (From Mia) - Xavier Fulton OT Illinois 127 Indianapolis - Zach Follet OLB Cal 128 Carolina - Travis Beckam TE Wisc 129 NY Giants - Javon Ringer RB Mich St 130 Tennessee - Trevor Canfield OG Cincy 131 Arizona - Terrence Knighton DL Temple U 132 Pittsburgh - Deangelo Smith CB Cincy 133 San Diego (comp pick) - Jason Phillips ILB TCU 134 San Diego (comp pick) - Jason Watkins OT Florida 135 Tennessee (comp pick) - Brandon Williams DE Texas Tech 136 Indianapolis (comp pick) - Ladarius Webb CB Nicholls St

My draft board going into the 2nd round pick, as far as guys who could conceivably fall to us (even including some EXTREMELY UNLIKELY falls) would look something like this: 1. Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina 2. Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers 3. Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State 4. Percy Harvin, WR, Florida 5. Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan 6. Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama 7. Sean Smith, S, Utah 8. Connor Barwin, DE, Cincinnatti 9. Jairus Byrd, S, Oregon 10. Sherrod Martin, S, Troy 11. Darcel McBath, S, Texas Tech

Not that it is necessarily indicative of anything substantial, but two of the most updated mock drafts I've seen, both from fairly reputable draft sites, have Harvin available when we pick and one has Nicks as well. Here's hoping that holds true... http://draftdaddy.com/MD/ - Harvin and Nicks available in the 2nd http://walterfootball.com/draft2009matt.php - Harvin available in the 2nd

I'm not saying two in a row. In fact, I would be very against that. But a WR in round 2 or 3 and another with one of our round 5 picks would be a good idea, IMO. Robiskie and Dillard, Gibson and Kelly, Barden and Tate. Something like that.

I actually just started a thread about this, but I wouldn't be at all suprised if the Bears end up with two WRs from this draft in the first 5 rounds. That would give them 5 WR options and they can go out right after the draft and sign the veteran WR of their choice. If everyone we would sign now falls into one of those two categories, why are we running to sign them? I think this just says "We don't love the free agents WRs (completely justifiable), so let's see what the draft brings."

I touched on this in another thread, but I think the Bears have to be at least considering drafting two WRs this year if the value is there. I'm sure they would still love to add a veteran (particularly Holt), but the amount of research the Bears have put into scouting the WRs suggests to me that they would probably be interested in getting a couple new bodies in there. So, if that's the case, which two WRs do you draft and where do you think you can get them?

I don't know that the reason we haven't looked at WR is because we are "locked into a WR in the 2nd." The fact is, most teams are in a bit of a holding pattern regarding free agents, waiting to see what the draft brings before committing money to a FA. Since the Cutler trade, exactly one FA WR has been signed (Ronald Curry to the Lions today). I think the Bears are going into the draft with the right mindset. They know what WRs will be out there in FA and they can be fairly confident that they have a favorable situation for the free agent WRs with Cutler in the fold, which can give them some confidence in the market. Now they can look at their picks in each round and weigh the draftee against the players in free agency, instead of committing money to a FA, then finding out a guy you like better ends up being available at a value pick.

I would also throw out Nate Davis' name here. His stock is falling like a rock, but I think he's worth a shot late in the draft despite the int/learning disability fears.

I would be very pleased with that draft, although I'm not real confident it will shake out that way. I'm still concerned none of the WRs (after Robo) would fall and I'm not sure McBath lasts until the end of the end of the third.

Have you actually watched him in games? I haven't and there's not much on YouTube, so can you tell me what about his game you don't like?

Two receivers I haven't heard anyone really talk about as possibilities for the Bears, which would seem to be for good reason as they share a lot of similarities to Devin Hester (at least in theory). But let's say the top receivers are gone by our second round pick (Crab, Maclin, DHB, Nicks, Britt, Robiskie), and Harvin has somehow falled and Williams is on the board. Should the Bears consider taking either of them (as talent-wise they would be considered good value) or do you pass because they seem too redundant? I've seen a bit of each, but I honestly haven't looked at them very much. I'm not even sure what kind of receiver they both are after watching their highlights on YouTube (lots of returns/reverses/direct snaps/handoffs). Anyone have thoughts on either?

I can't quite seem to figure out the scouting reports for Tate. Most of them seem to operate on the impression that he was poised to be a potential first round pick this year, but I can't quite understand how he would have gotten such great press considering he only had 30 catches prior to this year, though he was a great return man. So, it's an incredibly small sample for him. But his ypc this year, in only 16 catches) was still an insane 23.5. The videos seem to show he has legitimate WR skills, but the injury scares me.

Some videos: He seems bigger than I think he's listed as and looks like he has good hands. The concern is obviously the injury which could make him Airese Currie 2.0.

Then that's the list, as far as I can gather.

I believe the players on the roster who were not drafted (if I understand your question right) are: Cody Balogh Brett Basanez Rudy Burgess Joe Clermond Jason Davis Rashied Davis Robbie Gould Caleb Hanie Israel Idonije Jason McKie Fontel Mines Adewale Ogunleye Brandon Rideau Nick Roach

I have documented my support for Rashad Johnson if Robiskie is off the board in the 2nd, so I'm right with you there. But how can you ignore WR until the 5th round on this team? We have 4 OTs on the roster who are at least arguably starter-quality (Pace, Williams, Shaffer, Omiyale) and 4 OLBs of at least arguably starter-quality (Briggs, Hillenmeyer, Williams, Roach). We have 1 1/2 WRs of starter quality (Hester and a completely unproven, but reunited with his college QB, Earl Bennett). I have no problem going with a WR in the 5th, in fact I would prefer it, but only if the Bears also go WR in the 3rd.

How the deal went down: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ...rade/index.html

Except if you read the article I attached, the provisions are built to prevent people from buying championships by limiting the amount of money successful teams can spend without losing comparable value (either by cuts or FA). For a team like the Bears who now expects to be more successful, that's a bit of a concern.

I also like hearing from players about how they feel. In a recent CNNSI column, the writer talked to Nnamdi Asomugha about the trade: When I asked Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha on Thursday about Cutler, whom he calls a buddy, he told me: "He was arguably the top QB in the [AFC] West, so I'm not upset to see him leave. He should bring success to the Bears. [He's a] top eight QB." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ...tler/index.html That's good to hear, in my book.

Just for fun, I figured I'd take a look at what FAs might be available next year. According to KFFL (http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=WR&y=2010), the list includes: Chris Chambers Braylon Edwards Lee Evans Vincent Jackson Greg Jennings Brandon Marshall Derrick Mason Hines Ward Roddy White Some of those guys may have already signed extension that they haven't reflected yet, but that's a hell of a list right there. If Denver doesn't have a great year, you think Marshall's not running toward Chicago with both hands in the air? The problem, the much-anticipated "uncapped year" of 2010 will probably actually hinder FA movement: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

That would probably be my preference at this point. If you don't sort out the defense, Cutler's not going to make enough of a difference.