CrackerDog

Thanks. Is that "out there" in the news somewhere? I was just wondering if this was the official highest scoring game the Bears have ever had and lost.

The D was suspect at the beginning of the year and has gotten progressively worse with every injury. I think they would've been servicable on D but now it's broken and can't likely be fixed without a major overhaul in the offseason. Can anyone remember a Bears team scoring 41 and losing?

Let's not turn this thread into a pissing match about Urlacher. That's water under the bridge and I'm disappointed I even mentioned his name at this point. THAT doesn't solve our problem in the line. Peppers is hobbled, McClellin is just plain weak and our tackles are all in the hospital. Meanwhile we have Briggs with a hodgepodge of rent-a-players at linebacker and Nut sipping iced tea on the sidelines. This isn't how you run a god damn lemonade stand let alone a ferkin' NFL defense. McC was seen running behind the QB by like 10 yards on multiple plays. Does the dude know a swim move? Can he swivel his hips or twist his torso of is he one of those players in Tecmo Bowl? Someone get Peppers a cane and sign him up for AARP. The guy is done. DONE! Sad day when Wright is one of the best players on the field. Not one of these guys could tackle. Brutal shit.

Alright, let me start by saying I realize we went into the game banged up on D and we took even more injuries during the game. I get that and it's a reasonable excuse. But it's an excuse nonetheless. I also realize we got three turnovers and the win, which is all that's important. Most importantly, we now have a week and a half to get healthy which should be extremely beneficial under the circumstances. With all of that said, I'm downright pissed off about what I saw last night while the D was out there. We got ZERO QB pressure without sending extra guys and our front 7 couldn't stop Jacobs at all. Third down was like taking candy from a baby. If it wasn't for Eli's continued meltdown, we'd be talking about being 500 today. What I don't yet know is if this is Tucker's fault or the aforementioned injuries. If we just don't have the horses in the D line to be effective with all the plug-in LB's we have. If we really miss Urlacher this much. These are the things I ponder. I hate being the wet blanket. I'm very happy we won. But we tried really hard to lose to a shit team at home. And we probably should've if their QB played reasonably well. I don't feel good about this team playing Detroit or Green Bay, our division opponents much less the other tough teams on the schedule. Thoughts?

The man almost single-handedly lifted me to victory this week in fantasy football. I was going up against the guy with Tony Romo and still won! LOL! This week wasn't all bad football-wise, for me. Thank you, AJ!

Very true. But then again, Jerry Angelo drafted a DT in a high round pretty much every year for damn near a decade and... Poof! (Yes, I realize I'm exaggerating.)

That's where we are. Without an interior presence in the D line, we're not going very far this year. We'll only beat inferior opponents. To be able to beat the Packers and others we've yet to face, we need to improve this aspect of the team. Given all the injuries we've taken there, I just don't know who can fill that role. Yeah, Cutler had a bad start to yet another game. But when the gave him Alshon, he hit him. When other receivers were open, he found them. Marshall was taken away. The O line gave up more QB pressure than I'd like to see too. But NO isn't a shit team and we should've expected that. But I'll go back to the topic of this post, there's ONE big problem on this team right now and I don't see how it gets addressed.

Good summary. Shitty game.

Ha. I want it on record that while I find his response classy, I also disagree with it profoundly. I don't want a coach who thinks a game against the Packers is the same as a game against the Jags. That's just stupid. I know they both count one W in the standings but if Ditka had one thing right it was his focus on controlling the division games and using that to get into the playoffs. There ARE rivalries in the NFL and there damn well ought to be. You can't take all of the emotion out of this game or we're all just robots. I think the game loses something whenever we get too "classy".

Overall he didn't have a bad game against Suh. The line played OK, considering.

The only difference between this game and the other three was the number of Cutler brain-farts. He hasn't played well until the 4th quarter all season. He dug the hole too deep yesterday. The D also didn't come up with many big plays. We're spoiled by a D we're used to seeing score. And Hester had another shit game. Game was close in the end only because Lions turned it down a notch and coasted home. Our D gets little to no QB pressure, we don't cover particularly well and in this game, Bush was running up the middle like our linebackers were sleeping. So yeah, Cutler lost the game for us by being an idiot but the rest of the team sucked pretty badly too. Now we'll see what kind of leader Trestman is. You don't know what someone's got in that regard until they face a little adversity.

Yep. Although he wasn't brought in from another team where he'd burned bridges and was roundly hated by everyone. He wasn't a punk piece of shit. He was rookie on a pretty damn good team and developed amazingly quickly. I'd like to have that developmental QB on this team and hope we draft one next year. Trestman can work his magic and we'll have Cutler's successor ready at some point. That ain't what we're talking about here, with Freeman, more than likely. In Freeman you have a guy making big bucks who thinks very highly of himself.

Well, I don't really see it that way. For one the Bears aren't a running back by committee team. So, we have one stud in Forte who does it all, most of the time. The Broncos rotate backs in all day long, the Packers have had RB's in and out all season due to injury. So obviously from that one position they'd have more opportunity to have more guys catching the ball. I'd like to see a fullback pass every now and again, they can be very effective. I have no idea if Fiammetta has good hands. A lot of his time is spent opening holes for Forte and being an insurance policy for our newly minted O Line. Once again, pretty easy to understand why he isn't in the mix. Bush is on the field, generally, for short yardage or to give Forte a break. In three games he hasn't caught a pass but that could just be because Forte is getting a huge share of the PT. It appears our two backup TE's have brick hands. I don't want Jay forcing the ball to them. He tried it once, guess what? So in short, I'm not concerned about our O throwing the ball only to 5 receivers thus far this year. Marshall has only led the team in receptions once. Forte once and Jeffrey once. In other words, we're taking what the D is giving us. Three different opponents, three different receptions leaders. All five have caught at least one ball in all of those games and in most cases (13 of 15) it's two or more. As of today, we aren't a team that goes to a four/five WR set, we don't have the horses. Over time we may develop some of the guys we have today for that or we'll draft or hire more talent going forward. Rome wasn't built in a day.

And Trestman: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,6633919.story Bears are class, Detroit is classless.

And Tillman responds with all class: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2013092...0101/309260018/ Detroit is a team full of douchebags.

Yeah, I'm sure it was the shrillness of this site's whiny crybabies that brought him around. Otherwise all the game plans would've been was passes to Marshall and punts.

He's got a shitty attitude. The black Cade McNown. I don't want him on my team.

I hope Long dives at Suh's knee and ends his season. This piece of shit doesn't belong in football.

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I think he'll be back as a DC someday.

I can't bring myself to hate Lovie for one simple reason, I'm going to be 49 in December and I remember Wanny & Neil Armstrong, among others. And while Smith wasn't great, his teams were so much more fun to watch, went so much further and always played with class. I can't bash him because I know what a coach looks like who deserves to be bashed.

Ha. We must be the two cranky old guys on the board. We not only both chimed in, we both used bold and picked up on almost the same part of what was said. If I were the rest of the board I'd accuse the two of us of being the same guy. Only question is, are you the sock puppet or am I? On an unrelated note, I saw on WGN News over lunch it's already down in the 30's up there. How the hell does anyone live up there dude?

I agree. And many of his free agent picks and "addition by subtraction" decisions have been solid too. Agree again. But your point in bold is exactly why I said what I said. Let's move on and not look back but if we do, let's discuss the past with facts as we know them, not conjecture. It's fine to play a guessing game about things in the future since there isn't any means of knowing anything for certain. So when someone says they blame Lovie for a pick Emery made, I had to say my piece. I'm not going to be Lovie's big defender here but think there was a lot to enjoy on this team while he was in charge too, as you mention above. To say you're happy Lovie is gone is fine, to say you're happy he's gone because he drafted Hardin and McClellin, quite another thing.

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Dude, Tillman could end up a safety this year! I'm all for anything that keeps Peanut playing.