CrackerDog

I agree 110%. I firmly place the blame on Turner and to a certain extent Lovie because it's his team. The other alternative is to believe Cutler sucks and I'm not willing to believe that based on his prior performances. Turner is capable of turning a silk purse into a sow's ear. If this continues, he needs to go. And fast!

Amen on this one. He threw 4 picks and he very easily could've thrown 6 or 7. That ain't all the WR's.

THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS!

Bye the way, Lucky, I was basically agreeing with you but it didn't come across that way. I was just trying to make your points with a little more vinegar.

How about holding him and the coaching staff accountable, for starters. It's always, "Dang, we could've beat the Texans and we'd be in the playoffs. Awe shucks. That Lovie is sure a nice guy." Bullshit.

Who says so? The "experts". Based on what? Rodgers didn't suck in the preseason. They were 6-10 last year when the games counted. They have great receivers but a shit RB and a butcher at one tackle position who Ogun abused all night long. Ogun isn't that good and the Packers aren't a special team. In our division, only the Vikings look that solid to me at this point and they've only proven it against the Clowns. Turner has a few more games before I outright call for his head. His game plan in the first half was absolute shit. Our WR's are crap and we knew that going into the season. But it always takes Lovie and JA a few catastrophies before they get their heads out of their asses. This year, with a franchise QB, they'll extract their head from said asses just in time for us to finish 8-8. Swell job boys! Just enough to keep the sheep satisfied. Yeah, I'm pissed we lost to the Packers in a game we damn well should've won. I'm sick of losing games we should win. The NFL is basically made up of 4 solid teams and a bunch of mediocrity. I'm sick of being one of those teams. To get out of that mix, you need to win road games against your rivals when you have them on the ropes!

OMG! So what! So he learned something! Shouldn't he have learned that already from coaching? Or perhaps common sense? Greg Olsen learned something from his two fumble game last year too. Don't fumble. Too late though, he'd already cost us a game in a season in which we missed the playoffs by one win. I agree 100% but think a better, more savvy QB, will make him look better at this.

I agree 100%. What were they running on scout team this week? Did they not expect to see what they saw? They sure seem to have been able to adjust at half time! Why not sooner? Or better yet, why not arrive at the stadium with an actual plan? Cutler looked like a rookie out there.

You know, I need to hear more about this before I go off here... But since when does a wrist injury end your season? Broken bones can heal in a month and a half and you can play through it with pain killers and a big old club on your arm! He's a LB, not a RB. He should be able to play through this with a few weeks off. But, like I said, I need to hear more. I suppose there could be extensive damage in there and they need to reconstruct his whole wrist. This D isn't the same without him.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune....ist-injury.html

She looked REALLY good last night. Getting better with age...

Cutler may have had opening night gitters but I think he the coaching staff failed to prepare him for the 3/4 defense. He looked bewildered. Lovie's two challenges were ridiculous. The fake punt was a player mistake but this is a vet of what, 15 years? They put that quick snap in there but apparently they never coached him on when not to use it. The Packers 12 man was on the sideline for a few seconds before that snap. Halftime adjustments were just fine. With Urlacher out I expected to lose by 21. We were winning until a minute left. But why in the world aren't we READY for the team we play in game one this year? We were ready for the Colts last season! And Tillman played and was just fine, as I predicted. Vasher sucks. We play a much better team next week, even without Troy out there. And we're already banged up. If this offense can't get it's shit together in the FIRST half of a game, damn quick, and if this defense can't close out a game with a win (remind anyone of last season?) then the coaches ALL need to be fired. And starting with Ron Turner would make me happy. I hate losing to the Packers and I really hate it when we had so many chances to score in the first half and just pissed them all away. Fricken incredible.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...any-other-team/ I think we're going to see if there's a need exposed tomorrow night (WR, DB, etc) and then we're going to start using it to extend our guys. Thoughts?

The trade isn't out of balance.

My personal opinion is that the Bears coaching staff has had a bit of an inferiority complex during the Lovie Smith era. I'm not really trying to be critical but factual here. I recall the big problem they had with Griese saying he called the plays on a winning drive. Lovie was obviously not in love with all the attention Rivera got. Now they talk about their "brilliant" D Line scheme the day before the game so they can get it out there and if it works, the media will focus in on it. I just think coaches should coach, let the results speak for themselves.

Then they should've kept it out of the papers too!

We'll need Tillman as I believe the Bears will be successful in putting up some points and stopping the run. We'll be in Nickle for much of the game if true. We don't have the horses when GB goes to 4 or 5 wides.

No, it doesn't. This means they'd consider it a push on a neutral field.

Ah, but to be completely honest, I got the avatar from Grouchy's resource. So, in a way, you still have him to thank.

I think this list is complete but now you add Melton and it's like we have someone we do this with almost every year. And Dvoracek was clearly a numbers game after his first season but I'd say it didn't work out either because he never actually saw the field for more than a cup of coffee. I love the guy and declared him, on this board, the next Mongo. But he wasn't ever able to overcome his health issues. Sad. Maybe someday.

This may be a first but I'm with Terra on this. NOBODY is saying to send the season down the toilet or risk his being lost for the season... BLAH BLAH BLAH. If you guys actually read my intial post you'd see that he says he's fine and he's practicing at full speed. The team is saying he's only 50/50 to go because they're trying to be careful. Fine. But this game is more important than anyone here is recognizing. We missed the playoffs last year by a 1/2 game in the standings. They're ALL important. And this is a division game against a team we need to be at our best to beat.

And my point is you aren't really protecting some of these assets by making the rules stricter. Players will continue to break them simply because some can't be complied with within the context of an agressive sport. So a QB will still be drilled and the injury will happen but they'll get a flag. The downside is that little ticky tack plays will be treated the same as the really violent ones and we'll end up with a QB getting a pinkie on the helmet and flagged for 15 yards. Money is irrelevant if you take a look at Brady's injury last year. Flukes will always happen and making them a tad less likely at the cost of destroying the game isn't worth it. Guys like me start watching something else on Sunday and the NFL will have bigger money problems to worry about.

The article says he's going all out in practice. The game is against a team we're going to need a head-to-head game against at the end of the year if you believe all the hype. So, our 16 game season might be decided in week 1. I say get his ass out there if he's really ready and don't just hold him back a week because it makes Lovie's little heart feel better about things.

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=6086 He's saying he's fine but then says it's only 50/50 that he'll play? Bullshit. If they hold him out and his "replacement" gets burned a few times and we lose our opener to Green Bay, I'll blame Lovie! He's your top dog out there on the corner, don't waste time with the other guys.

I think many here think he's a bust. Maybe a year of practice will make him more ready for the NFL. Who knows. But this is clearly a Jerry Angelo tactic, using IR to hide a player for a season. Hell, I'm not sure it's actually worked to our advantage yet. Can you recall a player we've done this with that later actually panned out?