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Nagy is too proud to admit he can't handle being OC and HC at the same time. Imagine that. The reality is, being the OC requires fulltime commitment, and incredible detail. The attention span required to find a flaw in what the defense is doing and then exploit it, or set it up for future exploitation, requires a full time, offensive-oriented mind. And since Nagy is occupied with being the HC as well, he simply isn't that guy. Which is why, of course, there are almost no adjustments during the game. And further, there is no rhyme or reason to when the Bears actually do try something different.
It's time. Fire this dude.
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15 hours ago, adam said:
Crazy to think everyone, including me, fell for Jackson over Amos. It was thought Amos was a product of the situation and wouldn't play as well with lesser players around him. Funny that it was Jackson all along.
Disagree, slightly. Jackson is the far better physical player, but apparently lacks the drive needed to be a leader. As a result, Jackson has a lower floor and a higher ceiling.
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The ignorance of Nagy never ceases to amaze.
If he doesn't start absolutely force-feeding Kmet the rest of the year, throwing him post-up curl routes and end zone jump balls, then he's just stupid. The season is over. It's time to improve young players, and specifically, ensuring Fields is incredibly comfortable with his TE as a bailout option.
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On 12/22/2021 at 8:20 AM, adam said:
We are not locked into a WR in the 2nd by no means. If they sign someone like Gallup or Williams, you can go with a later round WR as WR3.
Even if they do not sign Gallup or Williams they can skip over WR until the mid rounds.
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IDGAF about a FA WR in Chicago. And I certainly don't want the Bears to spend big money. Guys like Gallup & Williams at over $10M a year? No thanks. That's money wasted where it can be spent elsewhere.
Draft one mid-round; they're always available.
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On 12/7/2021 at 9:33 PM, AZ54 said:
Well we're not in the first round so that's a done deal. Are you advocating trading out of the 2nd Rd? I wouldn't do that. Odds are good a starting caliber player falls to us at 37. Depending on what the board looks like when we're on the clock I might be ok trading back a few spots to add a pick. I have to see who's available before making that call.
Just shows how little I’m paying attention. I forgot the Pace is a kid at a candy store and trades away firsts like Kevin Costner in Draft Day.
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I’d rather trade out of the first altogether and load up. As always, I’m an advocate of building via OLine. They need to figure if Jenkins is going to play LT or RT, and then draft the other ASAFP.
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On 11/6/2021 at 1:10 PM, adam said:
They also have the 6th pick from themselves. Two top 10 picks is a great position to be in. Bears will pick 40th for their first pick (currently).
Yet another reason Pace is an idiot for constantly reaching up for “his favorite.”
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Embarrassing.
The offense is completely neutered. Did John Shoop possess Nagy when we weren't looking? Does anyone involved with play-calling realize we can max protect with a TE & a RB and run a few deeper routes or double moves? Do the genius coaches understand that RPO-type fakes aren't really that effective, and actual, old-school bootleg stuff is what will get Fields in the open and on the outside?
Nobody can ever convince me these dudes know how to actually call an offensive gameplan. They may know how to talk X's and O's, and do gee-whiz BS on a whiteboard, but they don't know how to utilize the team strengths/weaknesses and adjust as the game progresses.
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On 10/19/2021 at 10:31 PM, madlithuanian said:
I see no other way this game goes other than TB winning. And I don't think it'll be close. They will carve us up on D. And Nagy can't score more than 16.3 points a game. We are in trouble.
Bingo. Brady won't forget last year. He'll make it a point to guarantee this one has an exclamation point.
Brady: 24/32, 315yds, 4TDs; maaaaaybe one sack from the Bears. No way Brady holds the ball long enough to be in danger, and no way the NFL allows the Bears to beat up on him (i.e. expect lots of holding with no calls).
Bucs 30 - Bears 13
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On 10/12/2021 at 9:09 AM, Pixote said:
I agree that it is very possible the "Gruden" who wrote those emails a decade or so ago (I'm assuming they are all from his distant past) may not be the "Gruden" we know today. People do change. So I agree with you on those issues you addressed above.
As far as his coaching skills in the past, I'd have to disagree with you. He was VERY successful as a HC in Oakland the first time around. Why did they trade him? We're talking about the now deceased Al Davis, who did some very controversial moves as owner. Tampa Bay must have thought highly of him, giving up two first round & two second round draft picks along with millions of dollars to trade for him.
As far as his coaching skills in the present? He spent too many years as a commentator and like many HCs wo "unretire" and return to the game, he lost a step or two. I suspect the only reason he was still coaching before this "email" event occurred was because of his friendship with the Davis family and the outrageous 10 year 100 million dollar contract he signed. Eventually, he would have been let go and returned to the booth. Now, he will probably never even be hired as a commentator. He will be on the "do not touch" list.
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I just read an article, here is a quote:
So, now I see the issues are not all in the past. He certainly still has some ongoing issues.
Your final comment is based on the following you quoted: On Monday, the New York Times reported it reviewed more emails and found Gruden denounced women being employed as on-field officials, a team drafting an openly gay player and the tolerance for national anthem protesters.
Here's the thing, none of that was worthy of firing.
1. Gruden is right about women officials in the NFL. Women being on the field as officials is 100% affected by the NFL attempting to hire based on an attempt to draw more female fans, and not because those women are the best of the best. I know this for a fact. I'm in officiating circles and have been one for nearly 20 years. I know people who have been passed over who are definitely better and have more experience than Sarah Thomas. I literally heard someone speak at a banquet who was high up in the NFL's Officiating Department, and he was point-blank told that if he didn't hire a woman soon, he'd be out of a job. So, yeah, Gruden has a good point there.
2. Openly gay players (i.e. Michael Sam) is not even a controversial stance. He was below average everywhere, had misleading stats, and many felt at the time that he was drafted as more publicity stunt than anything since late round picks are often throwaways. But as the Dave Chappelle stand-up said...
3. As for protesting the National Anthem, well, that pisses off about half the country; so, that isn't exactly a fireable comment or offense.
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On 9/10/2021 at 12:56 AM, jason said:
Rams 28 - Bears 10
Nagy refuses to run, and the shit OL gets Dalton body slammed repeatedly. Stafford methodically picks the Bears apart with mid-range passes, and Sony Michael breaks one big run. The Bears fall into a 14+ hole. By the time Nagy realizes what’s going on and makes any changes it’s too late. Leonard Floyd celebrates on the sideline like a 6-year old who gets to eat ice cream for breakfast while the Bears physicians and psychologists check on a noticeably shell-shocked Andy Dalton, whose hearing is a mix of tinnitus, audible boos, car crash sounds, and “We want Fields”-chants.
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GB has owned Chicago.
Rodgers has owned Chicago.
It doesn't matter who they have at OL as long as they're allowed to Hold and protect Rodgers.
The Bears secondary will make one huge, bonehead mistake.
The Bears offense will remain neutered, with Fields flashing just enough for Nagy to beg to keep his job.
I'm not getting my hopes up at all.
Rodgers throws for 300+, while Fields does some dumbass RPO plays.
Bears 14 - Packers 30
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On 10/9/2021 at 5:28 AM, Stinger226 said:
When Nagy came on the scene in 2018, coach of the yr, we won games. Then his system and stubbornness got in the way. The reason he was successful that yr is he adapted to the talent and made it work. Then his ego took over. At some point he has to realize to just make it the best team it can be and not trying to force feed schemes. A KC offence here will never happen, just use Monty, AROB, Kmet and put them in the position to be successful. Maybe he is realizing that now, or someone told him to . Monty is gone for awhile but Williams and Hubert is ample talent to make things work. This week will define the rest of the season. I hope he's up for it.
Pump the brakes, Stinger. Nagy won coach of the year because the team turned around from 5-11 to 12-4, but it was 90% because of the defense, which Nagy didn't touch.
- 1st in points
- 3rd in yards
- 2nd in yards per play
- 1st in takeaways
- 1st in INTs
- 1st in rushing TDs allowed
That Coach of the Year award should have gone to Fangio if anyone.
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I'm excited for the Fields era, but I still think Dalton should be starting. If the plan wasn't for Dalton to start while Fields develops, then Dalton should have never been picked up in FA. Foles was enough. Dalton's acquisition reeks of the Glennon move, which is yet another reason I can't stand Pace. The dude makes moves that just waste money, and potentially cause conflict. Having Foles is one thing. He's easy to dismiss for a first round rookie. Dalton is a different case. It just looks like a lack of long-term planning.
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17 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
I swear Horstead has Spider-Man hands. Amazingly good receiver.
Does anyone else think the TD pass was extremely lucky? It was basically thrown straight at the defender. I get that the defender's head was turned, and that's what allowed the TD, but usually those are thrown to the back shoulder, or higher, to avoid the defender.
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Clean house.
GM- Charlie Casserly type, someone who has PROVEN success, not one of those “wants to be the smartest guy in the room”-types.
HC- Hire Pete Carmichael, New Orleans Saints Offensive Coordinator
Draft OL and Huge program guys from SEC, BIG 10, BIG 12, Clemson, etc.
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How many years in a row does the same things have to be repeated.
FIX THE OL
i don’t care what skill positions there are, it’s all predicated on OL. So they drafted one guy, and he turns out to be worthless. There seems to be a pattern developing, but they need to make it the first, second, and third priority or they’ll ruin Fields like they did Trubisky.
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Rams 28 - Bears 10
Nagy refuses to run, and the shit OL gets Dalton body slammed repeatedly. Stafford methodically picks the Bears apart with mid-range passes, and Sony Michael breaks one big run. The Bears fall into a 14+ hole. By the time Nagy realizes what’s going on and makes any changes it’s too late. Leonard Floyd celebrates on the sideline like a 6-year old who gets to eat ice cream for breakfast while the Bears physicians and psychologists check on a noticeably shell-shocked Andy Dalton, whose hearing is a mix of tinnitus, audible boos, car crash sounds, and “We want Fields”-chants.
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On 8/31/2021 at 11:42 PM, Bill said:
I now agree they both have to go. I don't care if Fields becomes a HOF in the future. Pace got lucky. Every year he gives away draft picks and gets what in return? This year alone he cut four picks, two from this draft? For every two picks he gives up to move up he gets maybe a good player. I don't think he's gotten better than a 33% return on any draft over the last six years. And that's not counting his crap rec. with FA's.
Agree. I’m sick of the fact this clown falls in puppy love with 1-2 players every draft and can’t hold his load until the Bears pick. This team needs multiple players at multiple positions, not “good enough”-dudes because there is an absence of draft capital.
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On 8/5/2021 at 6:10 PM, Bill said:
GM101 vs someone sitting on their ass at home bitching, perhaps like me?
As always, this line of rationale is to be taken with a grain of salt as long as the Bears front office continues to be far more hits than misses, and the team continues be mediocre at best. When the team perpetually wins, and perpetually threatens in the playoffs, then we can say, "Hey, nobody with a random opinion could do better than those superstar Bears GMs." Until then, however, it's impossible to say for sure. Hell, picking just exclusively SEC guys would probably be a better strategy than what we've seen over the past decade.
I'm excited about Fields like everyone else, but if they had stayed at 20 and kept the extra picks, who knows what could have been? Since Pace loves trading away picks, however, it's difficult to know what could have been over the years. Picking randomly would have probably produced better teams overall.
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The amount of deja vu here is sickening.
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What scares me about this is if the Packers cave and find trade partners for both. What would Rodgers and Adams be worth in trade?! Conservatively I could see them getting three extra first round picks at the least. They'd have a chance to reload like the 90s Cowboys.
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On 7/17/2021 at 8:49 AM, adam said:Detroit, with Jared Goff at QB, at #7 took Penei Sewell, OT. OK, I get it, everything starts in the trenches, but you are saying that you believe Goff is better than Fields.
Carolina, with Sam Darnold at QB took Jaycee Horn, CB? Darnold's backup is Will Grier. Darnold flopped worst than Trubisky, yet he is your starter and better than Fields?
Denver, at #9, with Drew Lock at QB, took Pat Surtain, C. They just signed Kyle Fuller, so again, they are saying Drew Lock is better than Fields.
Then the Eagles traded up to #10, it has to be for Fields right? Nope they took DeVonta Smith, WR with Jalen Hurts at QB? Hurts better than Fields?
Then even the NY Giants, traded out of the position with the Bears, and they have Daniel freaking Jones at QB???? So Jones > Fields?I don’t believe any of these picks mean they think their QB is necessarily better than Fields and his potential. I think it means they’re content with their cumulative GPA if they keep their passing-grade QB and upgrade the F on their report card.
In other words, improving the C+ in Math and keeping an F in English means you still fail and go to Summer school.
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There's a no shit statement if there ever was one. If Nagy was really as brilliant as he thinks he is, and as so many misled souls thought he was before he proved otherwise, he'd be using the TEs a helluva lot more in an attempt to get his rookie QB more comfortable.