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5 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
That was his fatal flaw. Why did he trade up so many times? It's because he knew something about the player that nobody else did. What an arrogant jackass!
And the crazy part is how half this board was all "trust the process" and "give him a few years" when several of us were saying "WTF is this clown doing" during the entire mess.
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I didn't watch the game, but what I'm curious about is Fields running.
That's a lot of rushes. Concerning for a QB.
More concerning, however, is FOUR FUMBLES? Lost fumbles or not, dropping the rock four times is outrageous.
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On 10/17/2022 at 5:21 AM, Stinger226 said:
Am I missing something? He only has 4 catches on the year. Not sure that will qualify him as a top 10 pick. He has 4.52 speed which isnt great . I think they will take the best player available. That could be OL, DL or WR. I think we will have a high enough of a pick to get a good WR in the first couple of rounds. If we end up top 5, I bet he trades back for more capitol first.
Who said top 10? As always, I want the Bears to trade down and stockpile. It would thrill me to see the Bears end up near the end of the 1st with extra 2nds and 3rds.
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15 hours ago, adam said:
After the TNF clown show, the Bears are currently picking 6th. Due to the SoS, pretty much any 2-3 team will hop in front of the Bears with a loss this weekend (10 teams), and no 1-4 team that wins will drop past the Bears.
With 3 games that have 2-3 teams playing against each other, this week's current draft pick slot range will be 9th-13th with the potential to have as many as 9 teams tied at 2-4.
Interestingly enough, the 14 teams with a winning record are the 14 current playoff teams, and the best non-WC team is IND at 2-2-1. So it seems that the league playoff picture is taking shape pretty early this year.
If I am Poles, not only am I shopping pretty much everyone, I would be looking for some WRs, OL, and DT help from teams looking to sell. CAR, HOU, and surprisingly PIT and LVR are in that boat right now.
I can't endorse this or cosign this enough. This should be the Bears manifesto moving forward. Further, the front office should ask Fields if he and Jaxon Smith-Njigba have any sort of rapport; and, if so, he should be drafted to make our young QB more comfortable.
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On 9/25/2022 at 2:02 PM, DABEARSDABOMB said:
Pickens looks the part and he is doing it as the 3rd option on a team with Trubisky. Ignoring Gordon as DB was a need - I still say I would have taken the wideout. That said I wanted Amari Cooper in a trade and that would have been a huge difference and at an extremely fair price (since he was acquired right before the wideout market blew up).
None of that is revisionist history either - cause I said it than and it still irks me fuse Fields offense looks a lot different with that one move in locking up Amari and quite frankly it wouldn’t have prevented anything else the Bears did this offseason (including Gordon).
Agree on the Amari Cooper thing. Just think, Fields could be throwing to Cooper and Picks this year, which would be a drastically different set of weapons than what he has now.
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I think this is a faulty comparison. Ignoring the Kyler Gordon part of it...
For all we know, someone like Pickens on the Bears would be the absolutely clear-cut #1, and get nearly every target regardless of situation. It's not like Mooney or Kmet are tearing it up. Many of us expected this because we didn't believe in the plan to draft Kmet while the sour taste of Shaheen, Burton, Graham lingered, and we also didn't think the Bears made a good decision to take a 5th round dude from freaking Tulane and anoint him as WR#1 despite barely cracking 1K yards and only having 4 TDs in a 2021 season that he was force-fed 140 targets.
Think about it another way: Maybe the offense would be passing more, and there would be more trust in Fields, if the targets weren't Mooney and Kmet?
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On 5/28/2022 at 11:39 PM, scs787 said:
Honestly, I'm not sure I'd like that. If Metcalf, a guy who is still going to be in his prime becomes available or a younger elite talent in their prime becomes available, you should make that move.
Never been a fan of this logic unless you can grab a proven franchise QB with obvious years to go. Kinda like Manning post-Indy.
It’s better to go after a team full of B+ guys and have no gaps than a few A+ guys (i.e. Mack) supported by C+ guys. I believe this is essentially the Bear Bryant theory to team-building. The team full of B+ guys make teammates look like A and A+ guys when they don’t have to worry about a bum-ass teammate like Jamarcus Webb always taking a wet dump on the play.
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I think the individual surprise will be Edwards. He'll come out of nowhere and put up good stats.
I also think the team surprise will be how poorly the defense plays, and that the offense will be forced to carry the team for a change.
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This something numerous people brought up, and it goes back to before Fields even. But the retort is always something like, “Yeah, they’re NFL coaches and you’re not,” even though any fool can see and understand why play action would benefit a young, mobile QB. But these genius coaches think they’re smarter than the history of football, and that their system is the best.
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I think 6.5 is about right, and wouldn't be shocked to hit the under.
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14 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
Have you looked at mockdraftable.com
That's an amazing website with a great layout! Have you found a player that the Bears have drafted in the past few years that has measured up well or shown some very favorable comparisons?
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Summary post:
Monty would be much better behind an OL that blocks consistently and with an accompanying passing game that scares anyone.
I don’t love the draft, but I understand it.
MasterT is trash. He will probably get cut before the season.
I hope the Bears have one more down year to take advantage of having a full draft at a good spot.
The WRs are WEAK, and a flyer should have been taken on Justyn Ross before someone else grabbed him. That type of talent was worth a 7th round throwaway pick. He should have never gotten to UDFA territory.
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Then again, the Patriots are a franchise that has found winner after winner. Maybe they’re smarter than the Rams here?
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1 hour ago, AZ54 said:
I was thinking about this thread last night too. Exactly what do we want out of our DBs in this defense? I'm still stuck on the old Lovie 2 that Rodgers constantly threw into submission on sideline routes between the S and CB, and a young Nathan Vasher who was only good moving forward. We just drafted a CB who can backpedal and flip his hips in man coverage with the best of 'em. That seems like more than what you need for someone to sit in zone defense. Brisker is versatile enough to fit any scheme. He can do a lot more than just cover half the field and react to the ball.
FWIW if teams like the Packers, who last year moved Adams all over the field to get him away from Jaylon Johnson, try that now with their star receiver, we'll be able to handle it. Our best coverage combination might be having Gordon in the slot with Graham/Johnson outside.
I think what I would like to see is a Bears team that moves into the current century in the offensive side of the ball, and tries to build an offense that exploits the NFL’s offensive-leaning predilections.
Instead, the Bears respond to what other teams are doing. It’s reactionary rather than causing others to fear the Bears.
And that’s frustrating considering last year’s selection of a talented QB who is currently the face of the franchise, but is not being supplied the necessary ingredients to excel.
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34 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
This D has shaped up quick and can be a top 10 unit. I still think they need that stud 3T to get to that point.
May as well at this point.
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🙄🙄🙄
Different GM.
Different Coach.
Same Bears.
How in the world they didn’t use at least one of the second round picks on OL or WR is baffling, especially with the ridiculous WR depth this year. And now there has been a crazy run on WRs and the Bears will end up picking a much lesser guy.
So much for protecting the face of the franchise and giving him weapons.
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10 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
I see Poles getting good players year 1 despite needs. Not saying needs wont be the first target but he is not passing up a top rated 3T/DB for the 7th rated WR especially if they are higher on the overall board. If they are tied, then maybe go WR.
Bears will be a bottom 5-10 team unless Fields takes a huge leap. That is hard to see right now.
Bears 5 WRs - X = St Brown. Y=Mooney Z=Pringle
Newsome= Y/Z
Coulter=X/Y.
I can only see them drafting high 1 WR to compete at the X. The can almost use a TE #2 before adding a 2nd WR in the draft.
Oline - depends since they missed out on Bates, but could use 1 OT/1 OG.
Those WR assumptions are only true if Poles accepts those guys as starters. Lord knows the Bears have wasted FA moves and money on guys who had no chance of being the main man on the team. We saw it with the Mike Glennon getting a 3yr deal just before the Trubisky draft fiasco. Or maybe you remember Adam Shaheen getting laughably over-drafted and then battling for the 3rd TE spot with the likes of Brown and Braunecker behind Sims and Miller. Then he got injured, came back, and the Bears signed Trey Burton anyway.
If Poles were to draft two WRs like the ones we've been discussing, then St. Brown and Pringle could potentially sit the bench, and Newsome/Coulter fight for a roster spot or get cut. I'm fine with that idea. Hoping dudes like EqStBrown and Pringle suddenly emerge is a riskier proposition than rolling the dice on one or two of the young studs.
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On 4/11/2022 at 9:06 AM, Mongo3451 said:
Agreed. I would even add RB late.
Why? Monty has shown he's got talent if he is ever given a chance to get out of the backfield. It just happened so infrequently because the OL took turns deciding who would suck and let a defender come flying through unmolested. In my eyes, drafting a RB is a waste for this team.
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I hate the compensatory picks. Makes no sense to me. So a team loses a great player because the team got great collectively, and they can't pay all their great players, so the NFL rewards them by giving them more draft picks to increase that team's odds of filling the hole and remaining a great team? WTF is that?
Meanwhile, a team like the Bears that hovers around mediocrity never gets compensatory picks because they so rarely have a situation where they aren't trying to fill holes. Therefore, the good players they lose are negated by the obligatory FA spending in order to field a serviceable franchise.
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Same as the others. For 96? Hell no. For a combo of picks (i.e. 2nd/4th or 3rd/3rd), absolutely.
This draft is deep in the 2nd and 3rd.
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13 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
Was listening to Kiper this morning. He said this draft is loaded at WR. He predicts 25 receivers to be drafted in the first three rounds. All with starting 1, 2 or 3 grades.
McShay has us drafting LT Tyler Smith from Tulsa. Jurko broke him down on film and said he's a nasty run blocker that needs to refine some of his pass pro technique and is pure upside.
With that being said, how's LT, WR, WR look?
Yes please.
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It's amazing that each year this is a realistic exercise.
- 2nd - Phidarian Mathis (DT) Alabama
- 2nd - Jalyn Armour-Davis (CB) Alabama
- 3rd - John Metchie (WR) Alabama
- 5th - Brian Robinson (RB) Alabama
- 5th - Jahleel Billingsley (TE) Alabama
- 6th - Emil Ekiyor Jr. (OG) Alabama
I don't think Mathis fits the new scheme, and I don't think the Bears should draft a RB or a TE this year, but I'd still be somewhat excited about that draft for no other reason than the Bears finally got through a draft without picking a dude from SE Louisiana State (which admittedly didn't happen last year).
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22 hours ago, lemonej said:
I'm taking a swing at this with my 1.0 Mock No Trades
39. Perrion Winfrey DT Oklahoma I believe he will be the best value at that pick and he fits the 3 technique role
48 Christian Watson WR North Dakota State because its my 1.0 this may be a dream scenario but as a WR with size and speed he checks all the boxes as a good weapon for Fields
71 George Pickens WR Georgia His size makes him a replacement for A-Rob
148 Thayer Munford OG Ohio State One OG position is in question and developing is this team's new calling card
150 Matt Hankins CB Iowa Reverting back to a Cover 2 makes Hankins a good fir
186 Rasheed Walker OT Penn State No matter who the GM has been, taking a developmental OT has bee the norm with this franchise
This is my first mock and I may have 1 more in me. Last year I had the Bears taking Tevin Jenkins at 20.
I like the Thayer Munford pick. With a name like that, you have to be tough, and it reminds me of Tom Thayer.
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On 3/16/2022 at 8:42 PM, Mongo3451 said:
I like how this one turned out.
The WR, WR, WR stretch gave me Detroit Lions vibes, but it's incredibly interesting. Throw a bone in the middle of the room and see which dog wants to eat.
OL still a desperate need
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There is no way this should happen. The franchise pick deserves much better defending him.
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