jason

LOL. I was thinking if he was a friend, he’d steer Wilson away from Chicago. I mean, I love the team, and the city, but he is likely set up for failure if he joins the Bears.

Massie...Well...Bye

And that price tag would be colossally stupid. Football is more of a team sport than any other sport. Harmony and skill and nearly all levels is required. it would be better to trade for picks to increase the odds of picking studs, than to put everything on the shoulders of a QB with huge promise being protected by scrubs. Funny, I think we have seen how that concept plays out fairly recently.

Bingo.

I thought I saw somewhere that he'd be willing to come to Chicago as well. Personally, I'd hate it for two reasons: 1. It would likely cost a 1st round pick. At least. 2. He's just mobile enough, and throws well enough on the run, that he'd potentially make Pace/Nagy look good.

That's what we all see, but for some reason the Bears' ownership/management doesn't. It's baffling. Then again, that's the type of thing we've seen for 20+ years in various forms and fashions, and it's why the organization has not been a consistent winner.

1. The Bears should never trade up for a 1st rd QB again. The lesson should have been learned. 2. Mac Jones makes up for arm strength precisely with anticipation and touch. I'm not saying he's Montana or Manning, but it's the same concept. 3. The McCaskeys don't care about winning. They care about $$$.

Agree. Also, since Darnold is more of a pocket passer and less mobile, maybe it would provide an incentive to the Bears' front office to focus on OL. If they were to go with Mariota or Minshew, there is zero doubt Nagy's dumb ass would be installing the mid-90s Nebraska option because he is so much smarter than everyone else.

What am I missing here? 6 years as a defensive quality control coach with the Bears from 2013 to 2018, and then two years as the safeties coach from 2019-2020. How in the world does that translate into DC? Is this a loyalty promotion from a notoriously cheap franchise known for poor coaching decisions? His "record" while with the Bears is 55-73 The defensive points against have been 30,31,20,24,9,1,4,14 from 2013-2020 The defensive yards against have been 30,30,14,15,10,3,8,11 in the same time frame More specifically, the passing ranks in terms of passing yards, passing TDs, INTs: 2013 - 15, 14, 8 2014 - 30, 31, 14 2015 - 4, 25, 30 2016 - 7, 11, 29 2017 - 7, 5, 29 2018 - 7, 8 ,1 2019 - 9, 4, 25 2020 - 12, 16, 23 So the guy puts in work as defensive QC coach for six years, pays his dues, and becomes the safeties coach. Subsequently, Eddie Jackson, the all world, ball-hawking safety turns into an average Joe safety, and the passing defense regresses for two straight years. I know the players are coming out singing his praises, but that doesn't look like a guy I'd hire as a DC, regardless of how long he's been around or if he has a PhD.

HAHAHA! YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!

This fits perfectly into my "go hard on defense to save their jobs"-approach that Pace and Nagy would be smart to take. ----------Watt Goldman Hicks---------- --Mack-----Smith-----Trevathan-----Quinn-- That would be a front seven that transforms the team's chances at victory. That would be a front seven that should dominate, time of possession, provide interception opportunities for the secondary, terrorize quarterbacks, and minimize the pressure on the offense. With that front seven, the Bears wouldn't need more than 20 or so points a game to win, and potentially be Super Bowl contenders.

Not only do I watch a ton of college football, but I live in Alabama. I may be biased. I love Mac Jones. I think he'll potentially be the best QB of the entire draft. He is not flashy, but he's very accurate, very composed, big game player, great leader, innate pocket presence, and makes great decisions. In my opinion he's being overlooked in favor of some of the others. If the Bears were to go the QB route, I would hope that Mac Jones falls to the Bears at their current position. Unfortunately, he's not flashy, so he's probably not even on the Nagy/Pace radar.

I agree about OL helping, but I don’t see it turning around the offense enough to make the team very good in ONE year. This is a “save your job” move for Pace and Nagy. As for DL being a strength, we just disagree. Compared to the other positions, that’s where the most help is needed. Maybe 1 OLB, maybe 1 ILB, maybe a FS. Goldman? I agree, if he stays on the field. If not, next man up, and Nichols is not the man.

Picking another QB in the draft this year after the promise Hurts showed this year? That would be moronic. Are they getting advice from the Bears' front office?

I'm not saying it's my preference, but if I were Pace/Nagy, I'd be thinking about a quick turnaround for job security. This team is not going to be very good on offense next year, regardless of the moves they make. But the pieces on defense are a lot better and can carry the team if the right moves are made. Hicks - Goldman - Barrimore: Could be an elite front three that leads to huge success in the 2nd/3rd level.

Let's say Pace and Nagy think their best chance to remain employed is to improve defense. The weaknesses are Nichols, Urban, and Quinn, IMHO. Would something like this draft turn the tide? Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 20: Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama (A) - Urban on the bench Round 2 Pick 20: Dylan Moses, ILB/OLB, Alabama (A) - Utility knife on D Round 3 Pick 19: Tommy Togiai, DT, Ohio State (A) - Pressures Nichols to start Round 5 Pick 20: Joshua Kaindoh, DE/OLB, Florida State (A+) - Super long, pressures Quinn to start Round 6 Pick 20: Jake Curhan, OT, California (A+) - I had to do it Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): Warren Jackson, WR, Colorado State (A+) - Huge upside, underrated Round 6 Pick 39 (COMP): Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State (A+) - Could fit nicely at nickle Round 7 Pick 4: Zach Smith, QB, Tulsa (B+) - I actually think this dude is a huge sleeper at QB Could they win with D and ball control on offense? It may be easier to do quickly than by trying to improve the offense. If I were Pace/Nagy, I'd be thinking this.

PREACH PREACH PREACH. Finally someone makes the perfect comparison. Mahomes has generational talent, but it doesn't matter if he's always running for his life.

I think there are some blue/orange glasses looking at the offensive comparisons. Evans is a monster; ARob is good. Their OL rocks; Brady would have died with the Bears' OTs. Jones and Fournette are definitely better. Also, Gronk had five less targets, way more yards, and one less TD; he's better than Graham.

The thing that worries me the most about Wentz is the wrist. I broke mine two years ago, and despite surgery it has never felt right. There are a bunch of little bones in there, and it takes a lot of luck to get back to the original starting point. And he's had several injuries. If he was so good before last year, why did he regress last year? It's likely an accumulation of injuries. Read this take and form your own opinion: https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-carson-wentz-concussion-andrew-brandt-20201124.html

Easy question. What is Mack worth in trade? Some of y'all follow that type of stuff a lot more than I do. You're more keen on the salary cap implications. The reason I ask is two-fold: Denver's defense wasn't good in 2020 Fangio is their coach What could the Bears get from them?

100% agree. I'll go one further. If you're going to draft someone #2, after trading up from #3, that guy not only should have won something, but he should have had several "HOLY S#!T" moments in college. To be honest, the red flags from Trubisky were glaring, and I can't really understand why so many were so enamored with him. I remember breaking this down somewhere on the board when he was being discussed, but the dude had a bad game every time he faced a decent team his senior year. 24/40, 156yds vs UGA 13/33, 58yds, 2INTs vs VT 23/39, 280yds, 2TDs, 2INTs vs Stanford I guess Pace must have loved when Trubisky was lighting up James Madison.

At the time Watson made the most sense after tearing NCAA football a new ass. That made a lot more sense that Mitch. And it made a metric ton more sense than trading up for Mitch.

Salt in the wound from Hub. Brings up some good points about questions nobody is asking, and all the more reason - other than the franchise-sacrificing trade - Watson to the Bears is a bad idea. https://www.shawlocal.com/bears/analysis/2021/02/03/hub-arkush-no-one-asking-the-only-question-that-matters-about-deshaun-watson-right-now/

HELL NO. HELL NO. Please, Dear God, please stop Pace from even thinking trading up to take a QB.

Check this out. ESPN's take on the state of the NFL, where teams stand in terms of how close to the SB they are, and the write up on the Bears. Interesting that the Bears are the lowest rated team in their list out of all the teams that made the playoffs. To me it's interesting for two reasons. One, because they realize the Bears weren't really playoff quality. Two, because they realize the Bears are missing several pieces of the puzzle. Which all makes one question why in the hell are Pace and Nagy around for another year? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30795720/super-bowl-lines-all-32-nfl-teams-mix-getting-closer-years-away