jason

Now I know that guy is an asshole. "The only game that I go to every year in Chicago is the Bears-Packers game. I will sell some of the tickets. I end up giving a lot of these tickets away because, quite obviously, the Bears have not had a very good product on the field the last couple years. You can’t sell all these tickets." That's utter BS. Chicago Bears tickets are always marked up because they are always in high demand, regardless of how good the team is. This has been true for years. The only time you're getting cheap tickets is in the nose-bleeds at the end of the year after the team has been eliminated already.

I think you're confusing hating Packers and Packers fans. I HATE the Packers. Hate. If they were playing ISIS, I'd root for ISIS. But I don't hate their fans, because that would be akin to hating a retarded person because they just aren't that smart.

The Bears have to be one of the most unlucky teams in the history of the NFL. http://www.letsbeardown.com/2017/06/14/bea...ers-for-the-st/ These may be last year's injury, but they are sore reminders of bad luck.

What do you think of this consensus? http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/6/6/...-mitch-trubisky

Am I reading this right in that they think the Bears only have an 11% chance at the playoffs? http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1957040...rtant-2017-game And if they lose the game identified, it's down to 3%?

I was thinking we'd go lower, not higher. Interesting. I'm guessing around 20-21 completions per game. Ball control and running. If the numbers are much higher, than I expect it will be because there are a lot of catches coming out of the backfield.

You think Bears QBs are going to throw for nearly 400 completions?

So what's the real prediction? I expect less passing, and more rushing this year. Kevin White: 88 catches, 1045 yards, 8 TDs Cameron Meredith- 45 catches, 580 yards, 6 TDs Victor Cruz- 44 catches, 485 yards, 14.2 YPC, 3 TDs Markus Wheaton: 31 catches, 363 yards, 1 TD Kendall Wright- 18 catches, 305 yards, 4 TDs Daniel Braverman: 4 catches, 45 yards, 0 TD Zach Miller- 45 catches, 400 yards, 5 TDs Adam Shaheen’s- 12 catches, 132 yards, 1 TD Dion Sims - 11 catches, 175 yards, 2 TDs This is just a complete shot in the dark. I'm hoping Kevin White explodes onto the scene, and finally justifies the draft pick. That leaves nothing but scraps for a lot of supplementary guys fighting for catches.

But that's 31 TD passes. I don't see a Bears QB going for that many, much less several more.

Preach. We're not trying to build the all star WR Crew of 4-5 years ago.

I really hope that happens. That's the best possible outcome. Adding another high draft pick would be great.

I hate the concept of Trubisky sitting for two years. Hate it. I also don't think it's a 100% positive if Glennon does well. There is the possibility of him doing well enough that he makes the team competitive, but not enough, and the Bears have a QB controversy the following year. There is also the possibility of him doing extremely well, and having minimal trade market because teams will know the Bears will want to start Trubisky.

Two things: First, are you saying the continuity between Long and Massie - due to their connection via offseason workouts - is the reason the Bears didn't go 0-16? Personally, I didn't really think it mattered that much since Massie wasn't that good. Second, your comments return me to the talks of Whitehair. Based on what you put above, and not a copy/paste from some scouting report, I'm not sure why you think moving Whitehair back to LT wouldn't work. The only reason I can see at this point is simply that he may just have better potential at G or C than at T in the pros. The switch, however, shouldn't be that big of an issue since he has tons of muscle memory there and excelled at it previously.

I understand that concept, but if that was the true intent, then why the hell didn't they just make the move before last year started?! That would have made the most sense. Especially since the line was in turmoil from the start. With Grasu taking nearly all the preseason snaps at C, and Whitehair taking nearly none, that was an immediate issue. Whitehair had almost all the LG snaps. So it made complete sense to make the move last year since Whitehair was finding a new home at C, and Sitton was finding a new home in Chicago. If the Bears are going for continuity, then this is not how to do it. Speaking of that... I thought you were all about OL continuity?! The Bears had arguably the best OG tandem and OL interior in the NFL. If anyone was against the move, I thought it would be you. I mean, if they sucked last year, then yeah, make the switch. Who cares about continuity when there are no results. But they had great success last year, and this move screws with that continuity. Not only that, but weren't you the one saying how difficult it is to switch sides on the OL? That it takes different muscles, different angles, and that it was really difficult to change?

You completely misunderstand. I don't wish bad luck or bad results for the Bears. I just expect it. That's the difference. Hell, I want a 16-0 season and a mack truck straight through the playoffs. But I just don't think that will happen (obviously). And the reason I don't think it will happen is the various puzzling decisions the team continues to make year after year after year, which you and I constantly have to try to understand or figure out.

If there is any player who doesn't need the easy road, it's White. He's apparently fragile. He needs as much of the minor stresses as possible. The minor trauma is what builds strength, forms callouses, toughens the mind, and teaches the body when and how to move to avoid the major problems. He appears to be one of those guys, in my opinion, who has taken the path of least resistance.

Both were first round picks moved around more than one time. That's the only real point I was making. Flipping Long and Sitton makes little sense. It is about the 10th best move they could make on the OL.

I don't think it will be. I think it will be worse than last year. I think they caught lightning in a bottle with Whitehair last year, and the new OL coach is going to dick it all up. Flipping guards is just the start. And Long isn't even healthy enough for OTAs, so his status right now is questionable.

I don't agree with that line of thought. That's like saying every round the GM doesn't pick a QB is the same as a #3 pick overall in a loaded defensive draft. Sorry, but that's just not reality. Your last comment is right though. It's complete bet-hedging, and it's ballsy. I think it was the wrong move, and so does most of the sports world, but it was definitely ballsy.

I absolutely agree. I meant "poor bastard" in terms of staying behind the OL experiment that didn't get OT help. Otherwise everything is great for him. Chance to start, tons more money.

I think Pace's plan all along was to use Glennon as an expensive smokescreen to get the QB he coveted. Then that smokescreen becomes a sacrificial lamb for one season, which will be enough time to get a few more draft picks and free agents. Pace doesn't care about 2017. Pace is setting up for 2018, and Glennon, that poor bastard, is going to be the scapegoat.

Precisely. But let's say Glennon does turn into a stud. In 2-3 years when he's dominating, and Trubisky has splinters in his rear, we'll be wishing we had a DE, OLB, or S to complement the team that will inevitably be missing a piece or three because there is a #2 overall pick riding the pine.

Pretty much how I feel. I don't think it's about franchise QBs in terms of the way that is thought of. Franchise QBs are guys who can take shit sandwiches and still deliver an edible meal. Most of the other guys are just looked at that way when there is a considerable supporting cast. I still feel Jay Cutler could have been that guy in Chicago if he ever got the support from the team. Instead, the OL was bad the entire time he was in Chicago. You can't win when the QB is on his back, and it's the precise reason why Jay thinks the Bears shouldn't start Trubisky this year.

I'm shocked some of you guys are content with sitting a #2 pick in the entire NFL draft for two straight years. That would suck in my opinion. It's two years that the Bears don't get to play a first round pick. Two years that a first round pick at another position would be racking up stats and getting his legs underneath him.

All valid points. I remember, however, some similar type of points being made in regard to Chris Williams, and his multiple moves along the offensive line. The team ruined Chris Williams, and never gave him a real shot. If the team wants to move Long, they should move him to tackle and figure the rest out. It makes so much sense that it's comical. With Whitehair at Center, and recently drafted Morgan, there is a surplus of interior linemen. Meanwhile, possibly the worst tackle combination in the NFL protects the edges.