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6 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
2024 draft
1) Caleb Williams
1b) Rome Odunze
2) Monteze Sweat
3) Kiran Amegadje OT fixed
4) Keenan Allen
4b) Tory Taylor
5) Ryan Bates.
I'm not complaining.
6 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:2024 draft
1) Caleb Williams
1b) Rome Odunze
2) Monteze Sweat
3) Kiran Amegadje OT fixed
4) Keenan Allen
4b) Tory Taylor
5) Ryan Bates.
I'm not complaining.
That's what happens when you wake up in the middle of the night to look at the draft. ( brain dead)
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2024 draft
1) Caleb Williams
1b) Rome Odunze
2) Monteze Sweat
4) Keenan Allen
4b) Tory Taylor
5) Ryan Bates.
I'm not complaining.
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4 minutes ago, Lucky Luciano said:
i agree. we got a starting quality player in the 4th. normally i wouldn't pick one that high but we are getting to the point where our roster is full and a pick this far down ends up on the practice squad or cut especially if they have an eye on some future cuts/free agents.
a punter is a really important part of your defense per se'. if this guy kills it it was worth it this particular year. next year we are fat with picks so something has to give for our roster then.
If he's all pro in two years, are we still complaining?
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Finally Poles gives us a WTF moment but with only 4 picks, can't expect magic. I would think they could have traded back and still took him. He waa rated to go in the fifth round but we don't have a fifth rounder.
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With only 4 picks, he took 4 players he wanted. Now I can go back to bed 12 hours different here.
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Where did you get your list? The three I look at had Mo Kamara rated higher than everyone but Dorlus. If he can trade back and get one of those centers and Kamara, I would be a happy camper.
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He is the clone to Braxton, physical specimen from a small school. Rated higher than Braxton with more upside. If Braxton doesn't keep progressing, we have a replacement in the wings. All the good teams have depth on the OL we are now starting to build that.
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Still left worth drafting
Mo Kamara. /He had 50 pressures and 13 sacks last year. 4.57
Brandon Dorlus
Myles Cole
Brennan Jackson/ 12.5 TFL 8.5 sacks 4.69 team captain
Austin Booker
Javon Solomon /16 sacks last year
Gabriel Murphy/ 8 sacks 12 TFL 4.68
Kamara is the dude to get.
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1 hour ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
I think they are going to have to live with that this year and than next offseason they can address it - whether via free agency, the draft or both. Back to your point - they are focused on building a culture and continuing to develop roster while also putting Caleb in a great spot to develop. I think if all goes right they can make a run at 10 games - but let’s get it right and than add another wave of talent next year (maybe even a trade acquisition).
Keep in mind we brought in a DL guru that may get more out of our existing roster. I expect Dexter and Pickens to be improved. Billings and he brought in Cowart right away so he must see some potential from him. Walker plays inside also. On the outside you have Sweat and Walker plus Jacob Martin, Daniel Hardy, Khalid Kareem. With Dom Robinson, maybe Eric Washington can get one to be viable. He will bring another one in. All is not lost.
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18 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
exactly right - this draft and next years draft are both aiming at the 2025 season, one where our stud QB isnt a rookie, and where we can fill the final missing pieces including another pass rusher.
The window for us to seriously contend for a superbowl opens in 2025, although I wouldnt put a ceiling on what this team is capable of this year either. But its a PLAN for 2025.Poles has a plan if he doesn't get help in the DL, he will bring in a vet. There will be a round of cuts to choose from. Do not underestimate players on the team getting better. I was curious when he said players are going to have a hard time making this roster. To me that means he likes some backups we aren't thinking about.
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They filled a need , swing T. He has traits, Braxton started as a rookie. Maybe that happens again. I'm listening to CHGO podcast and they praise Poles then they complain that he didn't take who they wanted. Poles took Kiran because he won't make it to 122. Trust in Poles.
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1 minute ago, adam said:
Braxton Jones safe?
He needs some time but potential to push him for a job in 2025. OL depth is a good thing. Wait and see , Poles will trade back at 122 and still grab a OC and DE.
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1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:
It seems the future plan is to have Moore and Odunze. Allen was a piece of insurance against not getting a WR in the draft, and a clear move to be sure that they give Williams weapons.
The way it all worked out, Allen ends up a luxury for this year, he'll teach Odunze and maybe even Moore a thing or two about breaks in routes. We may well not bring him back next year. But for this year at least, we have a ridiculous 3 man roster at WR. It's completely unfair to defenses. Williams has to be thrilled.
And so am I!If we end up being successful, he may want to stay to win a SB and we can get a team friendly deal. Plus his a he could be counter productive on getting a big contract.
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54 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
I think Odunze is a really really good and grounded dude. He is going to work hard, etc. He has good 40 speed and shown a ton of ability to make tight catches and use his body. It really comes down to me - will those strength's overcome his lack of quickness - or is he quick enough to get enough seperation where he can dominate in the pro's or with the margin's shrinking and the hits better does it kind of negate some of his strength's and he ends up more "okay". Barring injury I think no matter what he will be a solid 750-900 yard guy...the question is can he be a 1300 yard type of receiver.
We're going to find out.
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54 minutes ago, AZ54 said:
Odunze has legit long speed. The route running. But compared to those two he’s really ahead in terms of being a redzone target. I think he’s better at catching jump balls than MHJ.
I think any or all of the first 3 WRs can be all pro types.
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,We can still get 2 contributors at 75 and 122. Lots of names on the board yet. He's going to take BPA at several positions. If they stick to offensive players, we could get a swing T and Center prospect or OG.
75 Kiran Amedgadjie/OT and 122 Tanor Bortillini/ OC
75 Van Pran/OC and 122 Zac Zinter/OG
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Look at all the ego trippers in the WR group of the league and we got 3 down to earth leader types at the same time in our WR room. People complained about not drafting George Pickens and look at the whining birch he has been. That's why we didn't draft him.
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2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
VERY interesting - if you listen to the first three minutes of this, Poles says twice that he had his eye on Odunze, and that it took discipline not to TRADE UP for him. He literally mentions trading up for him TWICE.
That's very good news that they had him rated that highly, and that the board fell in such a way that they didnt need to trade up for him - it seems like that was a real possibility.
Thank you football gods
This was all planned out, obviously you can't predict the picks but they wanted this. Just seen a video of Rome and he stated, him, DJ, Keenan and CW have already been working out together. That wasn't by accident.
His big hero was Devin Hester growing up and his first NFL jersey was 54 Urlacher. This is a perfect fit.
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Here is GB draft reports updated big board. A lot of good names still there. We are 43 picks away.
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5 different players had a case for being pick 9 . There was no bad choice.
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2 minutes ago, adam said:
#11 - OT, Olu Fashanu goes to the Jets
I thought Bowers was going to the Jets.
Me too, everyone board is different. Who knew Panic would be picked top 10.
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There was no bad choice, this tells me , they will keep Allen for only the one year and use that money somewhere else. Poles has to have a plan for an edge rusher. Maybe someone he likes will be available at 75.
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7 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
Fields is trash, youll figure it out at some point.
And dont get me wrong, he (like Mitch Trubisky) seems like a really nice guy. He's not a trash human being, but he is a trash NFL QB. I truly dont understand the love for this guy as a player. He's awful.Im not here making a choice of Caleb or Justin, that argument has passed. Caleb is here and Justin is gone. I just dont understand why you have a problem with me wishing a good outcome for a good dude?
You may be right but the outcome of whether he improves or is trash is still open. I think he proves himself, it's an opinion. At this point, he hasn't improved enough to keep his job in Chicago, so some of your pessimism exists. It will be easier to have this conversation one year from now.
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It starts now with a potential top 5 QB, no turning back.
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I seen a couple of scout services that had him ranked late 2 nd round as a grade. He's light at 24o only one year of production. He's considered a project with high ceiling. Poles moved to the draft at that moment because they expected him to get picked.