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In fairness - last week was as banged up as an oline can get...but the Bears have some guys who have consistently been banged up which is on them. Now on paper it still isn't a great oline and some of the scheme / talent eval seems to be missing. Not sure which. I expect the oline will improve with their 2 starting tackles back and with Bates getting more footing. If you get your tackles back with Bates and Jenkins and Shelton in the middle - I'm not saying it is great, but that is a big step up from what played most of yesterday. But I think you do it with a new OC who potentially makes tweaks - and at this point - I think simpler has to be the trend of direction cause there is only so much you can change in an offense during the course of a season, which is what makes it hard. However - how they haven't isolated Moore and Kmet and others on key plays and split the field to simplify things for the QB just isn't good. They obviously don't have a go-to way to run the ball, but it seems like we need a hard reset. I don't expect a lot that can be done - but they have to do stuff different. I would get rid of Flus - if the defensive lockeroom is shaky, if it isn't, I just don't know how they can go another direction at this point because you don't have someone on the other side of the ball to turn this over to. If you turn it over to Washington, who is a different and fresh voice, fine, but than who calls the plays. Under all scenarios - Waldron has to go. You can't just switch the play calling at this point, I don't think it is enough. Every week Biggs has made comments in his pieces about Waldron NOT having the buy-in of the players. I think reality is he's probably a smart offensive mind, but he has no idea how to get the room to all move in his direction and because of it - the offense is all over the place. When he worked with McVay and Pete Carroll - it wasn't needed because those dudes DROVE buy-in all day / every day.

I think you are spot on.

That crazy thing is - at this point I can’t see any scenario Bears win more than 6-7 games. That was probably the low in my mind entering the season and now I can’t see anything better than that…hell I don’t even see how 6 is possible given their schedule. I guess only bright side is they should have a high pick to take an olinemen and now both 2nd rounders will be good too. I still think Caleb will be fine - but would be nice to see him get out of this funk and start taking steps forward vs back.

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It really was unacceptable to stick with Flus. A few of us all said it at the time - I hoped I was wrong but man he is not a head coach.

He should be cut immediately - him and Waldron gone. Send some messages.

I would have said Poles was pretty much for sure safe - the way this is trending that is no longer true. Flus is gone - and a week ago I said he would be here all season, now I am less sure. I am positive Waldron will be fired though - there is no way someone can’t take the fall for what is going on with the offense. If it were me I would fire Flus and Waldron and bring in Lovie as a pure interim head coach…but I’m nuts like that. But at very least they have to fire Waldron after this past week. I also would not play Caleb until their tackles are back - good grief that was ugly. I had a bad feeling they were going to loose but wow. At this point, I’m wondering if they have another win in them.

Let’s go Bears!!! 🐻

Real tough with linemen out. I’d like to see Kiran but he is so green. My guess is Bates goes in at guard and Pryor swings out to right tackle with Borom on left side.

He is a lot like Lovie. He has the respect of the defensive side of the ball - but he HAS NOT figured out how to handle and manage the other side. Whether its his choice in coordinators to run or he just doesn't know how to meddle enough on the offensive side to help (but not hurt), but it is a clear gap he has. I think they thought Waldron was going to be that experienced guy who can do it - but it is evident he doesn't have the chops to lead this offense - he probably relied heavily on McVay and Carroll (defensive guy yes - but he was a dynamic and charismatic leader who know where and how to involve himself in the offense) and on his own, it just doesn't work. Kingsbury is the opposite - I don't know how he will be as a HC - but hindsight 20/20 - it was a massive miss not bringing him over. Say what you want about him, but he's been in control before and knows how to run an offense. He's also showing he can run a pretty balanced attack. Now over time - how the league adjusts to his style, etc - we shall see. But he clearly was the better person to hand the reigns over to you with Eberflus in charge (vs. Waldron).

Half the season is left and we have a rookie QB who has gone through ups and downs, unsurprisingly. This feels like the time where you hit pause - really self scout and course correct and start dialing in and optimizing offense for what works. Get more playmakers involved, dial in the plays that are working, shrink the playbook, find some more "easy" throws to get your QB in rhythm, make sure you have some scheme plays for Kmet and Moore early - quick slants, etc that get the team rolling. Also - the above is really interesting - it does feel like with Allen he is really slow - but has that old man game - so let him leverage his body and footwork in a more crisp role to get him those "easier" throws and completions as well. Get Caleb to focus on that too - but you also have to have some targeted shots. But this feels like a - we got to really tighten the playbook and work with players and offense to really dial this in. The issue is clearly their is a huge lack of trust on offensive side of the ball - I think defensive side of the house is in very good order, despite some down's the past 2 weeks (last week they were pretty beat up). But things can go real bad if the offense doesn't start to take meaningful steps forward. If they lose, I think we see Waldron fired - not sure Thomas Brown can immediately change things - but I won't deny play calling matters as does details. Too big of a playbook can drive you to be sloppier on the details. Too much too soon can do the same. Too simple has issues as well. But from comments and quotes - it is very clear that the offensive side of the lockeroom is NOT happy with their current coaching and we have to see changes made.

I think you trade Keenan. He is getting forced targets and reality is he isn’t around for long haul and hasn’t been as productive. He is still a good vet but this probably isn’t right place for him and Caleb feels like he has to force it.

He isn’t comfortable. Holding ball too long or getting happy feet and rushing a pass. Receivers not always on same page - but also some plays where stuff just looks weird - saw a few times where two guys in same spot - bad play design or someone misran a route. Got to get back to basics and it is across players, coaching and scheme. Coaches have to coach better, scheme needs to be simplified, and players absolutely got to play better. I would trade Keenan and ideally find a faster wideout.

I think they need to start simplifying things. Going way complex was fine but they keep pushing it further. It is okay to have some high percentage and simple plays that build confidence and momentum. All great teams with vet qbs do it and Bears need to get back to that. Staple plays that also get their playmakers engaged early. Stuff that gets your young QB in rhythm. Right now Waldron needs someone managing him closer - it’s clear at this point Pete and McVay probably each were managing this part closely. Flus should entrust Washington to run his D and he should get far more engaged in offensive game plan. I don’t think you can go to Brown with Waldron there - if you do that just fire Waldron but that seems like too big of a panic move…which is why I think Flus becoming more of a HC and less DC is the card that should be played.

Biggs today said everything without saying it. It sounds like the players don’t respect or think highly of Waldron.

This is where Flus should hand play calling to his d coordinator so he can get into the offensive room and at least provide some fresh oversight. Getsy was fired by Raiders today.

One target in last two games (it was a catch by the way). That is absolute insanity. Waldron and offensive coaching staff is really irking me. Just like start of season where they went completely away from him…we come off the bye and the guy who catches everything thrown at him literally has 1 target in 2 games. Insane.

They get away from run game, can’t figure how to use 3 solid backs, and last 2 weeks have forgotten about this dude named Kmet. Plus they have a guy in Moore who they should have more designed for him and don’t do it. Defensively today was ugly but they were pretty banged up. Flus has generally been good there but him not owning up to his late game mistakes last week really was stupid.

The oline can’t pick up a blitz and the wide outs outside of Rome aren’t getting open. Coaching is a lot - the dline was also burned all day. Does it have talent sure - but right now I see more chirp and less play….i prefer my players back it up on field….this is where real leaders stand up…pretend leaders wilt.,.I hope this team has some real leaders.

Yeah Caleb was due to have some bad games. Seeing him struggle on road with banged up oline is not a surprise. Especially with how much they have thrown at him. I am not worried about Caleb but I do worry about rest of the team. Vets got to get together and lock this down…let’s get a win next week and battle to 9 wins. At this point I think 9 wins is a great outcome….at least 8 hopefully. Keeps team rolling and building while at same time no shock if they decide to pick a new coach to lock up with Caleb.

Justin Herbert had his best year of his career in his 2nd year with a new coach.

This runs a risk of going really south real fast. Sucks that they misread on Flus but I am we see some of these vets pull it together. I think I would trade Keenan and a few others potentially.

Dead man walking. He’s just not good enough. Never was. I just hope it doesn’t get real ugly next week…cause a loss to Patriots could really screw things up. Players got to step up here and fix this shit, we all know Flus is done.

In fairness - Caleb was very much perplexed at what Quinn was doing defensively. He just wasn't comfortable making his reads - it wasn't until 4th quarter where you saw a few throws where he was back of his drop and gone which is what we saw a lot more of the past handful of weeks. During first 3 quarters - while pressure was there, even when there wasn't pressure Caleb look confused. I thought it was the absolute worse he had played all season quite frankly - between his lack of accuracy and what looked like general confusion. That isn't unexpected - rookie's development isn't always linear and I have seen enough out of him to have confidence he will learn and grow from this moment (and quite frankly saw some of that in how he responded to a lot of adversity to still deliver in 4th quarter). But losing your starting olinemen like that didn't help the situation and I do give credit to Shane for sticking with the rushing attack despite the struggles - but when they tried the quick stuff to Moore, it was a loss of downs...but not going more to just the key players was a mistake - but a lot of this game I thought had to do with bad QB play and bad execution too.

This is my vote - he needs to learn a lesson but one mistake doesn't define a career. And I get it - some players play a certain way - having that swag is what allows them to play free and aggressive. You take that out and you might end up get a worse player - you take the good and live with the bad - the key is - he's got to LEARN from this and use it to get better. Just as Flus does. Bears can't let this define them - however, I hope Flus recognizes his own mistakes inside that lockeroom (what he says to media doesn't matter) its how he handles lockeroom on being accountable to what the coaches could do better, what he could do better, just as much as what the players can do better. That shared accountability is big and they need to be all-in on it this week more than any other week. But yes - coming out of the bye - there were minimal screens and minimal use of Kmet...the 2 things that we did more of when the offense got rolling. I also think we have a guy in Moore that has to just get targeted "Moore"