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Anyone know if Brandon Lloyd is going to play?

I'm definitely not attracted. She looks like Condolezza Rice and I certainly wouldn't be stooping her.

Nothing too big ended up happening. I'd say it was overall a draw or very close to a draw, but that means that Obama technically won (since he is the current front-runner).

I'm a big fan of the bar just off of Los Feliz called the Griffin. Its kind of trendy but the bartenders always give us some stiff drinks.

Harris is probably never going to be the player he once was. His knee has been bad year over year and those types of injuries just don't magically get better. Harrison/Dusty sounds good to me.

I'm down South in Orange County (Irvine) but I have quite a few friends in LA that we tend to vary who heads where so I'm thinking this could be a cool thing to head up to them for. That food sounds pretty tasty and would definitely be different than the types of food we have.

The Bears actually lost Colvin because of the Holdman check box fiasco. That fiasco with Holdman meant that the Bears had to give Holdman a long term deal with more guaranteed money than they ever intended to. This left the Bears unable to offer Colvin the contract he was looking for and he inevitably hit free agency and got the fat deal from New England. Colvin was a tremendous linebacker but injuries obviously got the best of him in New England.

And even after all the signings we still didn't know if we had a legitimate WR on the roster and currently you could make a case that we have "1" solid WR on the roster (Lloyd). Thank you Jerry Angelo, all because we didn't offer Berrian the franchise. Never has this franchise made a more assinine move than letting BB become an unrestrictred FA. This team's WR depth is absolutely atrocious and it put the offense in a position where all it could possibly do was fail. The fact that this team was actually spewing BS about Bradley being a #1 and just 3 games into the season he's already released should really show you just how little this squad has at the WR position. We have Brandon Lloyd, Rashied Davis (arena leaguer for a reason), Marty Booker (he can just retire), and Devin Hester (aka, dumb as rox). All I can say is its time to play Bennett a lot more since he actually has a future (unlike anyone on our WR Corps not named Lloyd and Hester (his contract guarantees he has a future in Chicago).

Technically Mark Bradley was our #1, even after Booker was signed. Bradley than had another surgery and well I think we know how that story ended.

Too much. The guy is terrible.

I figure if McCain wins, I at least know that even when the country completely self destructs I'll at least be able to sit in my cardboard box and look at a picture of our vice president and get "excited". If Obama wins than when the country self destructs, I'll just have my cardboard box and nothing for me to look at or get excited about.

I don't know why it took me so long, but I didn't realize we were both from SoCal. What type of food or specialities are considered lithuanian? I might just have to check this out.

Hunter would have been matching up against Stevens.

Jason also was the guy backing Mike Williams. I realize the case that players will play different in other areas but its pretty evident that Mike Williams had just as bad of a work ethic as Cedric Benson and had even less NFL success than one Cedric Benson.

Here's a Commentary I wrote on Bradley's release:

The people Obama's economic policies are going to hit the hardest are the middle class. His policies will further worsen the recession (pulling money from individuals as well as businesses) and this will actually lead to further layoffs and a general poor economy. I also find it absolutely hillarious that the republicans are getting blamed for this financial mess (Fannie/Freddie/Banks). That mess falls on the banks who did a terrible job and if you want to blame someone, blame the republicans and the democrats because neither of them did anything. In fact, if you really want to blame someone blame Greenspan who continued to spew stupid shit about the lack of a housing bubble and who actually encouraged lenders to go out and offer some of these dumbass products which were inevitably going to fail once real estate prices tanked. You talk about the rich who gets effected but I'm looking at myself. I'm a 25 year old whose a few years out of college. I certainly am not rich, yet, Obama's policy would cost me an extra few thousand out of my pocket. And for what, so I can have a national health care system as opposed to one by my choice which is managed by businesses. The cost of a national health care would be very expensive on the individual taxpayer (much more than any of us currently pay). I'm not saying we shouldn't offer health care to those less fortunate. I would want every single person under 18 to have health care as well as a program set up to ensure that every single working mom would have health care (ie a single mom or single dad who doesn't make enough money to even feed there kids shouldn't have to worry about health care, they should have it so they can stay healthy and do everything they can to work and support the family). Also, I realize it's the cool thing to blame Bush on the war but the reality is that the president isn't the only one who made that decision. Sure Bush was the figure-head and was one of the prominent players behind the war but last I looked the senate and house had to approve such items and those plans went through with bipartisian support (ie, Democratic & Republican approval). Please tell me about Obama's 20 year record. He has served in the senate since 1997 (11 yrs). Prior to that his only public type of experience was as a community organize for roughly 3 years. I give him credit. He's had some tremendous personal accomplishments, going all the way from community organizer to the democratic nominee for President. I'm curious though cracker as to what his "significant" accomplishments were in the senate? I don't recall him being involved in any significant piece of legistation. McCain has been involved in the following (and by involved I mean actually had a lot to do with): - Indian Gaming Regulatory Act - Gramm Rudman Legislation (This enforced automatic spending cuts in the case of budget deficits) - McCain/Feingold Bill (Campaign Financing; In addition it also shows his willingness to be bi-partisan (Feingold is a D) - Line Item Veto Act of 1996 (Presidential Power to Veto Spending Items; Yes, he was for a policy that would give current president Bill Clinton veto power) He's also served on numerous committees and has stood out on his own from the republican party to support ideas which he believed in (despite the republican base not feeling the same way). As far as I'm concerned, aside from his boringness on the podium, the guy has shown a tremendous number of qualities you'd like to see out of a leader, including the willingness to work with others and to stand out on a limb based upon what he believes.

So I just got caught up in this thread and I guess DrunkBomber finally has a friend This looks like a fun thread though so I'll try to keep up tell all you dem's whats really up (as if any of us is ever going to convince the other person to vote the other way, LOL).

Its actually interesting. I work for an international company and a few of our people were just over-seas and one of the partners on my engagement (he's actually a democrat) grew up in Europe and still lives there part of the year and indicated that a strong portion of Europe actually favors McCain. Apparently Europe has become growingly concerned with the economy and many seem to believe that McCain winning would be better for the US Markets which in turn would be beneficial for the European markets (since the US is still such a huge portion of the world economy). Obviously on other issues Europe would favor Obama and the democratic party in general.

Personally speaking I don't think this could be farther from the truth. McCain is a pretty middle of the road conservative but Obama is a very liberal. In fact, in general over the past 8 years the democratic party has been pushed farther left while the republicans pushed themselves farther right. Obama is about as far left as it gets with Kerry/Kennedy/Pelosi being about the only people farther to the left. However, McCain is a relatively middle road conservative and its why a lot of republicans were unhappy when he won the primaries (since people feared he wouldn't be able to rally the base). That said McCain isn't an exciting candidate and thats why he needed someone like Palin to stirr up the spotlight. Obama is the exciting candidate and he needed a VP who has credentials (since Obama really has limited political experience) and Biden fit the bill. The reality is there is a lot more similarities between Palin and Obama & McCain/Biden respectively than the other way around. McCain/Biden are the grizzled vets where as Palin/Obama are the more "exciting" charismatic individuals. But at the end of the day it comes to which policy you agree with. I vote on the economy and I strongly believe in the typical republican way of handling the economy (unfortunately Bush completely ignored that way and spent and spent and spent).

I'll bite. I'm curious as to how increased capital gains taxes, a change in the capital gains surrounding real estate (250K gain without tax for a single person, 500K for married is what it currently is, but Obama is proposing to get rid of that), as well as a repeal in Bush's tax plan is going to "help" the economy. I'm not proud of where the free spending republicans went but McCain (as much as I dislike him) seems to have a much better head on his shoulders when it comes to business and seems to be much more in the old of the traditional "fiscally responsible" conservative. In fact, if you ever get into the politics of the matter both Palin and McCain would blow Obama out of the water. He has no true accomplishments to point to. Although I will give him credit to be the best political speaker not named Bill Clinton.

I will admit, I fully expected to see an off-setting penalty where both teams players were called for personal fouls but that didn't happen.

Lloyd's TD reception from Orton was probably the best ball Orton threw (2nd would have been his pass to Davis) so I assume you are referring to the pass which set up the TD (where Lloyd made the over the head catch). Had Orton thrown a good pass, not only would it have been a routine catch for Lloyd but it would have been a TD pass. Sure the Bears still ended up getting the TD, but you can't ignore the fact that a good pass and they get the TD a few plays earlier (cause you never know what happens on future plays, especially given the Bears ineptitude).

Just cause a ball was completed, doesn't mean it was an accurate pass. On quite a few of Lloyd's catches you saw Lloyd have to make very good plays to come down with the ball. You also saw numerous receivers have to stop and wait for the ball. Very rarely all game did Orton actually hit a WR in stride. In fact, two of the only times I can think of him hitting a guy in stride: 1. When he hit Rashied Davis in the hands in OT only to have Rashied drop it. 2. First drive of the game, he hits Desmond Clark on a slant which would have either put the Bears at the 1 or given them a TD and Clark dropped it Bottom line this was the 2nd straight week where Orton left yards on the field with his inaccuracy. However, it was an improvement from Carolina where he was so inaccurate that they couldn't even complete most of those passes where as this past week the Bears WR's just had to stop and wait for the ball but at least were able to make catches. That said, if Orton throws a couple balls on the money the Bears end up with another TD or two.

They shouldn't have been tired. The Bears had time of possession dominated most of the game and still finished on the plus. Tillman is a very good physical cb. He has his faults, ie, defending speed CB's, but he's about as solid of an all around CB as there is in the league. He's no Champ Bailey but I think he's in the class right below (good tackler, good cover guy, great against physical WR's, best stripper in the league..yes better than Chris Harris). Vasher is the guy I'd call over-rated but I'm hoping his dissapointing play has more to do with him getting readjusted to NFL speed (since he missed pretty much all of last year). Brown and Payne both looked slow as molasses today and they were a big reason a lto of those completions over the middle happened. I do want to know why the freak the Bears didn't adjust on the 18 zillion slants thrown by Griese.

Azumah was an awesome kick-returner. IIRC, he was widely considered the 2nd best return man in the league during his tenure. Vasher was a premiere punt returner as was Rdub (it was the one thing he has consistently done good). Leon Johnson goes pretty far back and I'd agree he was bad and Wade was nothing special. Still, thats 3 other guys (plus Hester) in a few year span. That makes me think the system has a lot to do with it.