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Everything posted by DABEARSDABOMB
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Any rb will have a sharing of load. You have to. What you don’t want with a pick this high is a one dimensional back, imo.
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Good- fair price for an above average slot corner whose best years are still ahead of him. Plus it says something to rest of club for rewarding internal guys who are doing the right thing.
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I agree with you regarding him as a 3 down block and I do think him and Swift would be a real nice pair - both are diverse which means defenses will have a hard time knowing what is coming / defending what they bring.
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Henderson, OSU backs or Jeanty I’m in on. Hampton too - but my guess is Hampton is gone before the Bears pick in 2nd round.
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I think they want a 3 down type or back. Doesn’t mean they won’t use Swift and Johnson but they don’t want a niche guy in this draft imo. They either get a speed guy who is a 3 down guy or a power back who can still catch.
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I like Kaleb as well. I’m a Hawkeye fan and he was excellent. His 40 was a bit slow but he is a good back and he played faster than the 40.
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This - I’d expand and say a stud lt, de or cb (if they have a high grade on one of the two guys projected top 15). But ultimately - Jeanty looks like the real deal to me and he has a shot at being a top 5 in the league back. That’s a game changer and we need some of those so I totally get it if they go that way. I also like the OSU backs a ton - Henderson being my preference.
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If Jeanty is there at 10, I can live with it, as long as they didn't have a high grade on an OT or Dline or DB. Moving up for him - good grief. I would be more comfortable moving around / down with Rnd 1 and than using some of that leverage to move around in Day 2 (plus having some extra day 2 picks). That presumes they have high grades on the next set of backs (ie. both OSU backs, the Iowa back, I'm going to exclude Hampton since it seems like he is going to go in Round 1).
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Nate Tice on Hoge and Jahns was a good listen - spent a lot of time on oline candidates. Mike also has had some good content recently. Much of it aligns to what a few of you have been saying about Banks being a better LT candidate than Campbell - but a lot of love for Membou.
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Draft Odds: Over/Unders via the bookmakers
DABEARSDABOMB replied to DABEARSDABOMB's topic in Bearstalk
I think one of the big misses might be Connelly here. A lot of helium with him - stick to him or Simmons are best LT prospects in draft - but with risk. If Bears want one of them - they can move down but given premium on tackle I can see them going earlier than expected. -
Thought it was interesting to see where the books have the draft odds starting with the highest names tied to the Bears and than on down. NFL Draft position Over/Unders: Mason Graham (5.5) Will Campbell (5.5) Armand Membou (6.5) Sanders (8.5) Jalon Walker (8.5) Ashton Jeanty (9.5) Tyler Warren (9.5) Will Johnson (11.5) Mikel Williams (15.5) JihadCampbell (15.5) Tetairoa McMillan (17.5) Matthew Golden (17.5) Mike Green (17.5) Jayden Barron (18.5) Banks Jr. (18.5) Colston Loveland (19.5) Omarion Hampton (19.5) Jaxson Dart (24.5) Emeka Egbuka (29.5)
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Yeah I agree. If you have a total stud it is harder because they can do it all. It is when they are one dimensional that it makes it easier on the D. I do agree you don’t want to have just one back - but having a top 5 running back is a real good thing and helps the offense, defense, oline and qb. I say it helps defense because time of possession and rest that comes from a back who can control the clock helps the defense too.
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I think Conerly or Simmons are high probability picks in RD 2 and I could even see them moving up. Right now I would want nothing more than a qb to be there at 10 that drives a team wanting to trade up - or some other position - but it takes 2 to tango. I think no obvious blue chipper will be there at 10 - so I’d rather move down and than get a 2 for 1 approach. Address OT, RB, DL, TE and Wideout with 4 being in first two rounds depending on what you can swing in trade down.
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Im going to say if Jeanty and Campbell are gone - it will be a TE or Db. Im going to guess they take Will Johnson at 10. This assumes Jeanty, Graham and Campbell are gone. I think they like Simmons most if they go LT and it isn’t Campbell. That is my hoping they go high end DB prospect (Johnson and Johnson sounds like a great duo) vs the TE spect albeit it seems like a lot of momentum headed toward the PSU TE. If it were a year ago and it was Brockers id say yes - but I don’t think Warren is Brockers.
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One bummer is the coaches haven’t really gotten to work with the players much. Do they get a mini camp before draft where they can at least put them through some agilities or is first time coaches get to really do anything right after draft when you have rookie mini camp and than some of the full mini camps / Otas leading up until training camp.
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Johnson was quoted this week on Jones. Overall pretty positive quotes - but mentioned they want him to add some muscle so he can set his anchor better - but raved about his athleticism at tackle. Could be smoke - but you could hear the energy when he talked about Jones length and athleticism. He also said pass blocking is number one out of an LT.
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I do think the draft them because you see all pro upside at LT but also high end guard upside can get me comfortable. But if they are maybe a Top 7-12 guy at best at LT while they project as a really good guard, I might opt a different direction. In the long run though - I won't argue at all with taking a LT. I am fully aligned to the power of the Oline and all for investing in it.
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Very good move.
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And by the way - I want a stud LT more than anything - it might have to be next year vs this year though.
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Im fine with Braxton and Kiran for another season vs reaching given what else they did. Just my two cents. I think Jones is pretty decent - especially if talent around him is better. He isn’t great but he is middle of the road and still very young and Kiran has all the measurable.
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I think moving up with one of the 2nd and down with the other could be an option. Move up and get someone who dropped (maybe get that 5th year option at back of first round) and than move back 10 spots with the other pick. Or maybe Simmons or Ersery fall and you also grab one of the safeties. Get the difference making talent regardless of need - more difference making talent more likely a few players really hit.
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I am now fully convinced if Jeanty is there they take him. Warren maybe - but I could see them liking one of the dlinemen more. At this point I expect one of the 2Nd rounders to be oline vs a 1st rounder.
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Membou is similar to Darnell Wright. He is going to be a very good RT for a long time - but won’t be an LT. Most of the higher ranked LTs all profile more as guards quite frankly and anyone that picks them is going to first see if they can stick at LT before shifting them. Simmons is about only one I’ve seen regularly as a true LT but obviously has the injury concerns and isn’t expected to go top 10. Campbell is by far the consensus #1 tackle prospect from the more regarded analyst. Whether they are right or not - who knows - but it’s these random outlets who have some of the other guys ahead of him. He was consensus top tackle all season. I’d be shocked if he is on board at 10 and I expect another tackle is also gone before Bears pick - whether Banks or Membou. Id argue in many drafts they would all be in the 15-30 range as all the tackles have more material flaws than usual.
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Campbell was the top LT all season. He did lose some shine late in the season and over the combine. Reality is this is a draft where there may not be any real good LT prospect…which in my mind means, don’t reach for a need.