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Scary throw by Fields there, double clutched but then threw a missile to Mooney. They finally call something on the Lions after Mooney is hit late out of bounds. Now Fields needs to get some calls.

Justin Houdini holy shit!

God, why can't they do this for 60 minutes? Ngakoue with a huge sack, Lions punt.

Yeah, not many can do that.

Great blocking on that TD run, kudos to Patrick, Jenkins, and Jones.

Holy Shit, Wildcat with Moore, Fields out wide, fakes the toss back to Fields, runs it in easy. Great play design, why can't they do this all game? 7-0 Bears.

RPO working much better this game, Fields keeping the ball much more and gashing the Lions on the ground so far.

Fields gets hit on a slide on the first play of the game, no call. Geez.

You can go back in time too, Jay Cutler is the savior, Sexy Rexy, Cade McNown. The Bears have been so bad at evaluating QBs, at some point they have to luck into one.

Slightly off topic, but do you know the last time the Bears had the #1 pick (and used it)? I was assuming 60s or 70s, nope. 1947 - Bob Fenimore, HB So since the Super Bowl era, the Bears have never had/used the #1 overall pick.

If he has a total of 300 yards of total offense AND 3 TDs, I think the Bears win. With RBs, that would be close to, if not over 400 yards of offense.

"That's what she said"!

We need to be Saints fans, Giants, Jets, and Titans fans today. NO vs CAR NYG vs GB NYJ vs HOU TEN vs MIA

5th rounder by JAX in 2020. This is a guy that probably came out of college a year late (like our Sewell). In his Junior Year, he had 68-985 and 7 TDs at Texas (Biletnikoff finalist). Then he had a down year his senior year with some injuries. What is crazy is, he seems like an upgraded ESB, who is slightly taller, heavier, and faster. He has a surprising good pedigree to not work out. I wonder what happened to him? He was the Jaguars 2nd highest graded offensive player in 2020 with a 73.4 PFF score, yet was cut after his rookie year as a 5th rounder? Then he went to the Giants and actually had a decent 62.3 grade. Outside of DJ Moore, no other WR on the Bears has a grade over 60. He has a cool Twitter handle: @Call_In_Johnson I didn't know the Bears signed him to the PS on Oct 10th, so he has been with the team for over 2 months. Of all the random guys the Bears pickup on their PS, this guy may stick.

I didn't think about him panicking when his guys came off the board, and there was a crazy run of WRs right after the Brisker pick, 4 out of 5 WRs came off the board 2 picks later (Thornton, Pickens, Pierce, and Moore). Very true about mistakes, we would rather have them not be in the first or second or with a trade involved. SF got SUPER lucky they drafted Purdy too. It looks like Poles got a little desperate between Velus and Claypool. The Velus assessment probably falls more on the area scout that recommended him than Poles. I am trying to forget the Claypool trade.

Yeah don't look back at how DJ Moore talked about Sam Darnold, lol. I would say the most interesting part is saying he didn't know.

The great Dick Jauron once said "Finding a good QB is about as hard as finding the G-Spot".

Don't look at 2023's lol. Bryce Young, #1 prospect with a 93.7 rating. The best WR, Quentin Johnson. Darnell Wright, the 44th best prospect. Gervon Dexter was 124th. It feels easier to rank them within their position groups than it is to merge them into one consensus list.

There is one red flag for me on Williams that will come out at the combine. Some say he is not 6'1" and may only be 6'0", I know that may not seem like a lot but the NFL O and D-Lines are traditionally on average taller than the average college O-Lines because they are the elite of the elite. Maye, Daniels, and Penix are all 6'3" and above. Fields is 6'3", Trubisky was 6'2". So if Williams comes in shorter, that may hurt his stock.

I still have NO clue what Poles saw in Velus Jones, I think everyone's mocks had Cordale Flott (CB) in that round. For some reason, the sim drafts always put him in mine. The craziest thing, Velus and Cordale are cousins. Small world, lol.

It looks like St. Brown is out, and Velus and Scott are both questionable. I hope Velus doesn't play. Check this out: Since last season, when Velus gets a rush, target, KR, or PR, the Bears are 2-16 and lost their first 14 games when one of those occurred. They are 5-6 when he doesn't touch the ball or is targeted (or is inactive). Just like Claypool, cut this guy already.

Honestly, I think it comes down to this. If the Bears get the #1 pick, they are drafting Williams. Even if Fields plays better, I just can't see Poles putting all his chips into that basket and going two years in a row with the #1 pick and missing on both Stroud and potentially Williams. Williams is no sure thing, but like others and you have said, he hasn't had the best team around him and literally carried the team on his back a few times. I think if there is any other pick, I think the Bears keep Fields, trade down and gain draft capital (maybe a 2025 1st), and just keep building up the entire roster.

Fields doesn't even need to do it a lot. 3-4 throws a game over the middle, in rhythm, and it changes the entire dynamic of the offense, because if you have to spy him, AND defend the run against the RBs, AND play the entire field in the secondary, the defense will be in conflict on every play. Fields athleticism adds an element and threat that most other QBs don't have, but if that just replaces MoF throwing, it negates the benefit because if they can't both defend the MoF and spy him at the same time. Right now those effects are negated, and then the outcomes become dependent on external forces (quality of other team, officials, weather, etc).

Do not go anywhere, I will do better moderating everything. This whole Fields situation is incredibly polarizing and as you can see, we have some super passionate fans who want nothing more than the Bears to succeed. We can all agree to disagree and I will start moderating the posts better, especially when it gets overly personal, we don't need that, we aren't Lions or Packers fans. This forum has been around for too long to lose members over things like this. For the entire group, please DM me if you have an issue with a post so the admins can review. I try not to step in unless absolutely necessary to do so as I don't want to censor anyone.

nope, I am Adam, I came over from SoxTalk a long time ago as RME_JICO, just changed my name once I retired from the Army.