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Yeah, he bought into it after he was just initially brought in to promote it. PFF was started by a Brit (which is another reason it received so much flak) in the middle 2000s. Then team's bought in on the data, and Collinsworth eventually bought a majority stake in the company in the middle 2010s, a decade after it started. However, he was promoting it on telecasts long before he bought into it.
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Very slick business model. Come out of nowhere and just start publishing player grades where everyone makes fun of you. Then bring on a reputable celeb, Cris Collinsworth, who then starts quoting your grades on broadcasts, then eventually the league basically recognizes your grading system and teams actually pay big bucks to view the data. Early on they were an absolute joke. Anyone who referenced PFF was like referencing Wikipedia as your source. So many of their grades are hilarious. Right now Adam Thielen has a better receiving grade than DJ Moore, JaMarr Chase, Calvin Ridley, George Pickens, Tee Higgins, Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, and Terry McLaurin. I don't know if you watched the CAR game yesterday, but Thielen created negative separation with his routes. He literally ran into DBs and closed the gap before the pass. It was comical, it looked like he was running in quick sand.
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DVOA for next few opponents: OVR/Off/Def KC 13/12/19 DEN 21/7/30 WAS 11/11/10 The Bears played the 7th best DVOA defense (TB) and 11th (GB), next up KC (19th), and DEN (30th). So we may see a slightly better performance from Fields and Co. the next few weeks. However, all 3 of the next 3 opponents are top 12 in offense, which is not a good sign for the defense. 8 of the 15 remaining games are against a DEF 20th or worse. WAS is the only current defense the Bears will face in the current top 10 for DVOA. So if we don't see an improvement on offense, especially in the next two weeks, we never will.
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Yeah, the eye test is undefeated. Players can have comparable stats, but if you watch the games, you can actually see how they achieved them.
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Good point, there are cases where coaches have started out terrible and righted the ship, but it is rare. Campbell was on the hot seat. If not for that turnaround at the end of the season, he is canned. If they would've lost one or two more games, he was gone. Can Flus do the same thing? Detroit had a top 5 offense but their defense was terrible. At some point the defense improved enough to win some games. There defense allowed 24 or more in every game in that 1-6 stretch, then in the remaining games allowed less than 24 in 7 out of 10 games (all wins). The Bears have the 22nd ranked scoring offense and 31st defense. They don't even have a top 20 unit that they can lean on. With injuries to Gordon and Jackson on defense, that secondary is now a weakness. The team has 1 sack, lol. There are 33 players with 1.5 sacks or more. There is nothing they do well. Detroit had an elite passing game and Williams was unstoppable inside the 5. It does take 3 years for a complete rebuild and we are 2 weeks into year 2. However, at some point, the corner of the turnaround should be visible. Right now the team is trending in the wrong direction. They were 1-7 in one score games last year. They have yet to even play in one in the first two weeks. Again, small sample size, but we already know how Sunday will turn out, so we can assume it's 3 weeks and 0-3, and 3-17. Now that I think about it, the WAS game on TNF will be the breaking point. If they can't beat Denver at home (OCT 1st), it would be 0-4, 3-18, and then another loss 4 nights later would put them at 0-5, 3-19 with a mini-bye and the trading deadline approaching. Someone is getting fired. To even get to your projected win total of 7.5 games, they would have to go 7-5 or 8-4 in the last 12 games.
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Just going off the odds lol. So after two weeks there are 9 winless teams, so the Bears have 2 picks in the top 9. Week 3 games: CHI @ KC (CHI loss) DEN @ MIA (DEN loss) LAC @ MIN (one team will have their first win) HOU @ JAX (HOU loss) NE @ NYJ DAL @ ARZ (ARZ loss) CAR @ SEA (CAR loss) LAR @ CIN So it looks like 6 teams will start 0-3 with CIN and NE with potential to, however, NE is playing Wilson, so they may win that one. LAR is tough, but it is hard to see CIN starting 0-3. I am going to assume both NE and CIN win, which would give CHI and ARZ both 2 picks in the top 6!
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I think if the Bears drop to 0-4 and lose a second one at home, Flus is gone. That would put him at 3-18 as a Head Coach. No one has ever survived that long being that bad.
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To put how bad Flus has been as a HC, here are all the coaches worse than him in the Super Bowl era with 20+ games coached: 1. Jim Ringo - BUF 3-20, .130, 23 games (BUF, 76-77) 2. Matt Eberflus - CHI 3-17, .150, 20 games (CHI, 22-23) 3. Marty Mornhinweg - DET - 5-27, .156, 32 games (DET, 01-02) 4. Chris Palmer CLE - 5-27, .156, 32 games (CLE, 99-00) -------------------------------------------------------- 5. Matt Eberflus - CHI 3-16, .158, 19 games (CHI, 22-23) So after a loss against KC, Flus will have the 2nd lowest winning percentage in NFL history for a coach with 20+ games coached. Seriously people. If he was to lose 3 more after KC and start 0-6, he would be tied for the worst coach EVER with 20+ games coached. EVER.
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Last season, there were 3 in season firings: CAR fired Rhule after Week 5 (starting 1-4). He finished with a 11-27 record (.289 winning%). Flus has a .157 winning% Reich was fired in IND after a 3-5-1 start in his 6th season. He left IND with a 40-33-1 record. Denver fired Hackett in his first season after going 4-11. All of those coaches had more wins in their first 3 weeks of that season than Flus does in his last 12 games. Just to get back to .500 as a HC, Flus would need the Bears to finish the season 8-7 in the last 15, then go 10-7 for the next 5 seasons, just to get to .500. LOL.
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The more I look at their advanced numbers, the more I think they are made up. They basically grade without context, so if an OL gets beat on a sack, even if the guy who beat him was not his responsibility, he still is knocked for the play. Ngakoue is a great example of context, he couldn't bring Mayfield down on a few potential sacks, but still blew the play up. He was graded negatively for those pressures. So PFF would rather have the DL not get pressure than get pressure and miss the sack. The odds that something bad happens for the offense is much greater with the QB under duress, so even if the play didn't result in a negative for the offense, Ngakoue shouldn't be penalized. It's wild when the grades are so off in the same game for the same positions. Christian Kirk - 11 receptions, 110 yards, 45 yard long. Rashee Rice - 2 receptions, 20 yards, 15 yard long. Kirk 66.6 - Rice 70.1. So without any context, you would assume Rice had a better game, but it was not even close. Like to me there needs to be a minimum for each position group, otherwise the grade should be N/A. They also don't care about the defense. So if you are playing against an All-Pro or a rookie the output is graded the same. So if one player gets a creampuff schedule, he looks like the second coming of Randy Moss instead of Javon Wims. They would've been better off if they just made composite grades from existing stats, so the grades would be objective and based off actual stats.
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3 of the 4 QBs are 2-0 and haven't needed to throw very much. Lawrence is 1-1 and lost to KC. Burrow is playing hurt and it shows. At this time, there are no numbers that support Fields being good, or even average. Every metric, including the eye test, says he is playing like a bottom 5 QB. The only hope is that due to offseason rules, that these first two weeks are the last two weeks of preseason, and now with 2 games under their belts that we can see improvement across the board. However, that applies to all teams, so if the Bears can improve, so can every other team in the league. My theory into why Fields is struggling this season: teams have adjusted with a full season of tape and offseason to prepare. So they will not give him man coverage or the same look pre and post snap. They bring more pressure, and they have worked on contain. So even if Fields has improved, the Bears added Moore, the result is net zero because defenses have improved on how they defend Fields. If he can't adapt from here, he will never be a starter in this league. He just can't beat zone.
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PFF grades: Herbert 84.0 Kmet 77.3 Moore 76.9 Lewis 73.1 Claypool 66.4 Jaylon Jones 79.2 Edmunds 76.9 Billings 76.7 Robinson 74.4 Edwards 74.3 The most consistent offensive players is Lewis and Billings on defense. I know these grades are off when they give Braxton Jones a solid grade of 63.4 and say he was better than Wright at 58.2. Carter got 48.5. Ngaokoue had the lowest starter grade with a 35.1, which is odd because he did have a lot of pressures, but couldn't finish.
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You are correct, this team was not meant to contend this year. Odds said 7.5 wins, 9 if they were lucky or good, 5 wins if they struggled. They were not expected to start 0-2 going into KC though. After 0-3, they would have to play .500 ball 7-7 to finish with 7 wins. The odds of that are super low, like 1%. That's just facts. Justin does need more time to develop, but I don't know if doing it under constant duress with live bullets is what he needs. If they really want to fix him, he needs to sit and observe, fix his flaws, then come back to the live action. This on the job training is not working for him. It's good that we get players experience, but every team does, so the Bears do not gain anything. At the end of the day, the Bears need a better roster, better scheme, or better execution to win games, or at least two of those at any given time. However, right now it seems like they are on the short end of those every game so far. That is the concerning part for me. If one of the units was playing well and they still were 0-2, there would be some promise. However, every unit has looked outmatched, the game plans look disjointed, and they are still getting penalties on a team with zero room for presnap penalties.
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I'm good with sleeping, I am immune to this team. I try my best to be fair and realistic. I would love for them to be great, it is really fun, but we have seen so much losing that more doesn't matter. In a way it is humorous at this point. 0-17 is a very real possibility if this is the same team we see week in and week out. If they play better and catch another team on a bad week, they can easily win a few. If they improve and maintain that improvement, they could win 5 or 6. However, anything more than that would be a huge leap as they should already have a win, so 7 wins is a 7-8 record the rest of the way. I am thinking 5-10 even seems tough considering they were 3-14 last year.
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Just think if you had 2 QBs, like Bagent taking the snap, but the RB was Fields who runs to the flat, Bagent can pitch it to him and he can still pass the ball from there or run, or pass it back to Bagent. Limitless options really.
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Fields on pace for 3,630 passing yards (if he plays 17 games). It would be the highest total for a passer since Cutler in 2015 and only 208 yards short of the franchise record set in 1995 by Erik Kramer (3,838).
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QBR is funny, 22.8 to 23.1 in Week 2, IMPROVEMENT!
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Nice view, I love the beach. With that said, Olin can say that, and sure, the Bears could win 15 games, unlikely but possible. Right now the Bears should be the underdogs in every remaining game this season. That is not optimistic. If Fields just blindly threw the ball to Moore on every passing play, the Bears would've had a better outcome. You could put any other NFL starter in his place and they make more plays than he is right now, and he is not saving any with his legs. So now he can't pass, can't run, and just takes sacks, fumbles, and throws INTs, just like he has the past 2 years. Nothing has changed. The flashes are out of shear athleticism, and not something that is sustainable. Bring in a real QB and keep Fields as your Wildcat gadget QB.
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TB defensive players post game comments, they knew a screen was coming on Pick-6 play. Getsy needs to be fired today. Regression from Fields is 50% coaching at this point, play calling has been worse than pop warner level. There is zero reason to believe what we have seen in 2 offseasons and 19 games from Getsy will magically change. The team only won 3 games last season (SF in the monsoon, barely beat HOU on a Roquan INT then GW FG, and that anomaly in NE). So the entire Bears coaching staff can hang their hat on 1 good win in 19 games.
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Updated predictions after two weeks of play. Week 3 - Sun, Sep 24 at Kansas City - L Week 4 - SUN, OCT 1 BRONCOS - L (lost to LVR and WAS, so we don't know how good or bad they really are) Week 5 - Thu, Oct 5 at Washington - L (barely beat both ARZ and DEN, who both could be really bad) Week 6 - SUN, OCT 15 VIKINGS - L (Jefferson makes this a loss) Week 7 - SUN, OCT 22 RAIDERS - L (this would be 17 in a row) Week 8 - Sun, Oct 29 at LA Chargers - L (this will not be pretty) Week 9 - Sun, Nov 5 at New Orleans - L (the 07/08/09 Lions lost 19 in a row) Week 10 - THU, NOV 9 PANTHERS - T (could be a loss of Young looks good, this loss would be 20 in a row). Week 11 - Sun, Nov 19 at Detroit - L (couldn't beat them last year) Week 12 - Mon, Nov 27 at Minnesota - L (Jefferson makes this a loss) Week 13 - Bye Week - L Week 14 - SUN, DEC 10 LIONS - L (couldn't beat them last year) Week 15 - TBD at Cleveland - L (might be the best team in AFC North) Week 16 - SUN, DEC 24 CARDINALS - L (2 losses by a combined 7 pts) Week 17 - SUN, DEC 31 FALCONS - L (beat GB) Week 18 - TBD at Green Bay - L (crushed Bears in Week 1) There is a real chance at 0-17, there are only 5 potential competitive games that could go either way (DEN, WAS, LVR, CAR, and ARZ), that's it. So at most 5 wins, more than likely only 2 or 3.
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Mooney had 10 snaps, I believe he got dinged up.
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Early line is -12.5. There is no way the Bears are staying within 2 TDs of KC in KC. At best this is a 30-10 game, but I have a feeling it will be much worse, Mahomes with no pass rush is virtually unstoppable.
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The Giants started out being outscored 60-0 in the first game and a half, then put up 31 on Arizona in a half to win the game. Daniel Jones, who couldn't do anything for a game and a half threw for 321 yds and 2 TDs and added 59 yards and a TD rushing. The biggest difference between the Bears and Giants, the Giants adjusted at halftime and it worked. The Bears do the same thing over and over again, they are so predictable. After a play works, they never use it again.
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They throw more screens than run the ball. Roschon averaged 8.0 yds a carry, Herbert averaged 5.0 yards a carry, but they got only 11 combined carries.
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0/2 this season. Not a good start. Start #27, another shitshow. Dude looks lost.