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Fields WR Corps may have been one of the best ever with Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson, Jaxson Smith-Njigba, and Jameson Williams all on the team at the same time in 2020. USC has some decent WRs, but not like that. I have started to watch some older games on Williams and he is totally different QB than Fields. Both QBs had some easy throws or sometimes a ton of time in the pocket. However, Williams has a lot more throwing guys open and throwing before the guy is open plays. Fields has very few of those. Outside of the deep balls, where Fields is probably better, Fields almost has no intermediate game and very little in the middle of the field. You are down on Williams because he lost a bowl game where he threw for 462 yards and 5 TDs, with 1 INT? Those are some high standards. The problem now is the timeline, this team is not a year or two away, so Fields rookie contract in its 3rd year is not in line with the rebuild peak (probably 2026). Getting a QB next year after you have built enough key positions thru the draft is more conducive to a long term plan.

Claypool a healthy scratch, ESB playing on his birthday. Bears by 20! The Bears have not won a game since they traded for Claypool, coincidence or not? If they win today without him, they need to look for a trading partner and get that toxic guy out of the locker room. So this guy was clueless last year, was doing fashion shows in the offseason, actually looked solid in practices, then had one of the weakest games you will ever see in Week 1, followed it up with a TD in TB, then disappeared again in KC. This dude has god gifted physical traits to dominate as a WR in the NFL, yet he plays soooo weak. It's time to cut sling and move on from this clown.

Williams is at the Andrew Luck level. Fields did that for a few games, but Williams does it EVERY game. Even if Fields improves, if the Bears have a chance to get Williams, you can't pass on him. I would say you trade Fields for whatever you can get (maybe a 3rd if Lance was a 4th). Williams is in another tier right now. It is hard to see him fail in the NFL.

Yeah, next year is the year, I am just hoping that they can gain even more draft capital at the deadline. Move Eddie Jackson, Whitehair, Jones, and any other vet not in their long term plans. I would even consider moving Mooney or Johnson if they are not looking to extend them, but I would extend both. Claypool just needs to go now, he has been a cancer and the Bears have yet to win with Claypool on the roster. For mistakes, those are the two big ones. I would say not addressing the O-Line adequately and vet depth at Safety. The 2nd rounders really need to step up, Brisker has played pretty bad, Dexter hasn't done much, and Stevenson has been the only bright spot. Gordon looked good in the preseason, but he was terrible last year. So who knows what the Bears have there. I like Wright and I can't blame Poles for going that route, but that was not BPA, Carter was. Either way, I like getting the trenches fixed, so I hope they go DL and OL again in the first 3 rounds in 2024. If the Bears are bad, say bottom 5, that is a top 37 pick in the 2nd, and top 70 in the 3rd. So they will have 3 in the top 37 and with Carolina's 2nd in 2025, they will have 3 in the top 45 (their 1st, CAR 2nd, their 2nd), and 4 in the top 75. So technically they will have 8 picks in the top 75 of the next two drafts. So we may not even see much improvement until after the 2025 draft. Maybe 2023: 6-11, 2024: 9-8, 2025: 11-6

I hope they play mad. Looking defeated when your down 2 scores in the 1st quarter sucks the life out of them too quick. They need some motivators on the sidelines. Fields needs to step up in that area, Year 3 in the NFL, let's go dude.

A 5'8" 188 lbs back put up 200 yards of rushing on the Broncos with 2 TDs, with 2 more TDs coming from 4 receptions for 30 yards. Mostert put up 82 yds, and their #3 back put up 66. It would almost be unfathomable to think that Roschon can't get 100 yards on like 18 carries, Herbert gets 80 on 12. Roschon is a really good blocker too. Poles found a gem there.

He is a good pickup as he will probably be featured more and more as the year goes on.

That applies almost every year unfortunately. If you are a Sox fan, you basically get 365 days of use between the Sox and Bears.

Poles top 5 FA acquisitions by Cap Hit: 1. Tremaine Edmunds - $14.7M 2. Yannick Ngakoue - $10.4M 3. Justin Jones - $7.4M 4. Nate Davis - $6.9M 5. DeMarcus Walker - $6.4M That is really a very unproductive group. Poles needed at least 3 of these guys to produce. His best signing has been Billings at $2.7M. Rasheem Green has been terrible. Poles decided to keep Robinson over Lewis, and Robinson has done nothing. It feels like his Pro Player Personnel scouting is terrible. There have been a bunch of edge rushers for contracts similar to Walker and Green that have produced (Arden Key, Samson Ebukam, etc). Hell, Markus Golden signed a 1 year, $1.3M deal with the Steelers and has 2 sacks in 3 games. He never addressed safety or brought in vet depth in the secondary, now the Bears are running out UDFAs and guys they just signed from other team's practice squads. Tough business but Poles has to be better. He signed Foreman to a $2M deal for him to be a healthy scratch the last 2 weeks. You can miss on a few, but you can't miss on most, because once you add injuries to the situation, you end up where the Bears are now.

If I used PFF, I would weight it much less. Basically make all grades into a 100 point scale, then weight them, then divide by the number of different metrics and you get a new score up to 100 using all the scores. Like if I weighted 1-5, PFF would be a 1, QBR probably a 5.

Johnson’s rushing data among 52 NFL running backs with at least 15 rushing attempts and Johnson’s receiving data among 45 NFL running backs with at least 30 receiving snaps. NFL RB Rushing & Receiving Roschon Johnson PFF Rushing Grade: 78.0 (No. 12) YPC: 5.3 (No. 11) 10+-Yard Rushing Plays: 3 (T-No. 23) 10+-Yard Rushing Play %: 17.7% (No. 8 ) 1st-Down + TD %: 29.4% (No. 11) PFF Receiving Grade: 57.8 (No. 25) Target % – YPRR: 28.2% (No. 3) – 1.44 (No. 5) aDot: 0.6 (No. 14) I like when PFF actually used real stats and metrics. As you can see, Roschon is a top 12 back right now. Getsy needs to ride him, mix in Herbert and Fields, and kill teams on the ground.

Yeah, definitely need a composite system, because if you look at the OLine scores for GB, no one is terrible, yet they were allowing constant pressue.

I don't recall, and based on contracts and obligations, I don't know how feasible that would be.

I have no idea what GB was doing at the goal line against DET. On at least 2 of the short TD runs, there was literally no down lineman on the side of the line and Monty walked in untouched. What is crazy is that DET will not be able to do that all year, there is no way your lead back can have 21 rushes for 3 or less yards (he had 8 rushes for exactly 2 yards) and expect to win many games. It does help to have a double digit lead early. However, Monty is no different than any other year. Another comical thing, PFF loved Monty, he got a 80.2 for that game, yet if not for unbelievable blocking, he would've had 2YPC. On the flip side, another reason why you need the eye test to tell the story. Love was terrible, like worse than Fields terrible. He threw the ball backwards at the feet of his RB to have the ball roll out of bounds for an 11 yard loss. He had a bunch of turnover worthy plays and was lucky to escape with only 2 INTs. If not for the refs allowing them to play after all 0s on the game clock (led to 8 pts and 50+ extra passing yards) and the other drive where they kept GB's drive alive with phantom penalties against DET, the Packers would've lost by at least 24. PFF Grade for Love: 68.1, PFF Grade for Goff: 72.9. Another reason why PFF alone is a joke. There is no way Love gets anything higher than a 50 for that game. QBR to me is much better, Goff had a 61.2, Love had a 7.0 which is the lowest QBR game this season beating Daniel Jones' 8.2.

I think one of the overarching problems is, once you get to that level (the NFL), there is a limit on the amount of humans that can do what they do at that level. Like in reality, Mahomes is probably the only generational QB talent currently playing (not counting Rodgers who is past his prime and on IR). After that you have that 2nd tier that have great games but are just not at the sustained success as Mahomes has been at, guys like Hurts, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, Jackson, maybe Tua, Prescott, but that's it. Just a handful of guys. Most of them will end up like Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers, a ton of yards and TDs, and not much else to show for a 20-year career. Same goes for coaching, how many true offensive gurus are coaching in the league today? McDaniel, Shanahan, McVay, LaFleur, and maybe Johnson and Canales? That's it. I don't count Belichick or Reid as they are grandfathered in. So if you don't have one of those 6-8 guys on your staff as at least OC or HC, and one of the QBs mentioned above, the odds of you winning anything is slim to none. The Bears have neither, and I don't know the last time they had either, Ditka and peak McMahon?

It has to be Hoke or Hightower, I would assume.

Majority of the QBs fall into the average category 40-60 for QBR, as 50.0 is exactly average. It's the guys above 60 and below 40 that standout. So Hurts is doing nothing for his team to be 3-0 and Cousins is doing more than average though his team is really bad. The top 2 teams in the league have the top 2 QBs: Tua and Purdy in terms of QBR. Fields and Wilson are winless and the last 2 QBs, so they are actually bringing their teams down and their teams are playing bad. They are both playing worse than a normal QB in the same situation. So if Fields was above 40, and the Bears were 0-3, most of the fault would be on others. If he had a QBR like Cousins, he would not be the problem. The way I see it: Below 40: Hurting team, playing too far below average 40-50: Not helping, but not hurting 50-60: Helping team 60-70: A huge contributor to the team's success 70+: Carrying team, making others around him better

Denver has 4x WRs with over 100 yards receiving. Marvin Mims leads the team with 195 yds. Sutton has 17 receptions for 189. Brandon Johnson has emerged and they still have Jeudy. With the Bears depleted secondary, Russ is probably going to gash the Bears defense. Teams rarely score their projected points in back to back road games, we will see if that holds true with Denver. The Denver defense is bad, so the Bears offense should feel right at home as they practice against a bad defense every day.

I think Mahomes would not have as good of numbers as he does now, and Fields would be better, for sure. I am just saying there are very few cases where a player is either really bad or really good on one team, then goes to another team and is the complete opposite, just because of the coaching and other players. It does happen, but it is the outlier. If you look around the league, having the Offensive Guru as the HC makes the most sense, because you don't have to worry about losing him every season to another team if he was just the OC. The HC can be the play caller and have a named OC that is more of an Asst. Head Coach. Then you bring in an established name as the DC, who can also act as an Asst. HC. That way the HC who is calling the plays has some cover for other parts of the duties that he may not be able to do while calling plays. Also, the game is super analytical now. The coaches don't even need to make their own plays. All they have to do is put there own wrinkle on the same concepts. There are only some many routes to run, route combinations that work against specific defenses, etc, etc. Everything is plotted and graphed, so there should be very little need for major decisions within the game. You make them before the game. That is why the Getsy stuff is so alarming at this point. The Texans have a rookie QB, new coaching staff throwing to Nico Collins and Tank Dell, and both of those WRs have more receptions and yards than any WR on the Bears. Getsy was the biggest mistake for the Bears. Knowing the Bears had Fields, he was the polar opposite of Rodgers, a young QB vs a HOFer, Rodgers can pretty much do anything on every play as long as the other players don't make a major mistake. Fields is a mobile QB who has a hard time reading the MoF. That is like oil and water. What could Getsy impart on Fields? Getsy didn't call plays and was just a spectator. I think that was the Bears biggest mistake. Off topic a little, does it ever feel like to you that Fields is shorter than advertised. Fields hits OLine helmets and gets balls batted down like he is 5'10", and when he stands in the pocket he looks shorter than guys like Watson, etc, and he is taller. Hurts even crouches down very low and still makes throws of the middle. I always felt that they should measure eye height vs overall height, because if you have a 5-head like Glennon, you will be 2 inches taller than a normal cranium, but your eye level will be that of someone 2 inches shorter.

Patrick Mahomes is a generational talent, and outside of Kelce and Jones, the Bears may have had a better roster. Mahomes it football jesus, he can literally make any player look good. The team would not have had the success KC did, but that is relative to the entire team, not just Mahomes. Mahomes in a vacuum will probably end up as the best QB of all-time, and he will eclipse numbers set by Brady, Favre, and Rodgers long before they hit the same numbers. Now he just needs to keep winning championships and catch or surpass Brady. Would he have won a SB in Chicago? Yes, in 2018, easily. That would've completely changed how 2019 was handled, so who knows how many more he would've won. Nagy is doing pretty good with him right now. If Fields was with Reid, I think he would be much better than he is now with Getsy, but I assume every young QB would be. Look at what Stroud is doing in HOU, name his top 2 WRs, TE, and RB off the top of your head. Love has been playing solid in QB without his WR1 and RB1, and he doesn't throw for 99 yards. Regardless of the players around him, Fields himself, is not producing. As the biggest contributor in a football game, his impact is the greatest and has a domino effect. If the Bears had Andy Dalton back, the Bears are probably 2-1, and the offense would look a lot more in fluid. Fields is making the offense clunky right now and unfortunately, until he improves, I don't see this changing.

DVOA for Fields thru 3 weeks is -51.8% (last), he passed Jake Luton to become the 2nd worst QB in the last 5 years with over 400 passing attempts. He is nearing Mike Glennon the Giant territory, who is dead last: 20 Luton -48.6% w/ 117 attempts 23 Fields -51.8% w/ 101 attempts 21 Glennon -59.2% w/ 173 attempts To understand how bad Glennon was, he only lasted 4 games. He had 4 TD and 10 INT, a QB Rating of 49.7 and averaged 131 passing yards a game while being sacked 9 times. If we go up in passing attempts, the next two QBs ahead of Fields with more attempts is 20' Dwayne Haskins (-40.1% w/ 261 attempts) and 20' Alex Smith (-39.7% w/ 274 attempts), interestingly enough, both on the Commanders. Fields current QBR is 21.0, 34/34 in the NFL. Fields has had a bottom-5 QBR every week this season. For PFF, Fields has a 62.3 (27th) OFF Grade and a 54.3 Passing Grade (31st). His traditional QB Rating is 67.7 (30th) So the eye test is matching the stats, all of the stats. I think the worst possible combination all hit at the same time, weak roster (GM), bad HC, bad/inexperienced OC and play caller, and a QB that really needs a super strong development environment to progress. This is clearly not a system built for Fields, nor is it play to his strengths, that is 100% on Getsy, and should be a fireable offense (no pun intended). The only thing saving Fields right now is that the entire roster around him is terrible and his OC can't draw up a play to get anyone open. Guys like Burrow, Pickett, Lawrence, and even Hurts have a lower than normal QBR. So it could just be an early season thing, but if he ever needed a slump buster, I hope he finds one this week and gets all his frustrations out, just don't pull a hammy.

If Fields was ever gonna throw for 300 yards, here is his chance. At home against a team that gave up 70 pts. Denver is on the road for back to back games.

That tells me there is a disconnect between GM and HC.

At this point, they have to go no less than 2-2 in the next 4, otherwise someone is fired or Fields is benched. 1-3 makes them 1-6 and 4-20 over the last two seasons. 2-2 at least shows some sign of progress. Based on those opponents, they should go 3-1 at a minimum, but they're the Bears and nuthin' is easy. The first win would do wonders for them, even against a winless team like Denver. Getting 2 straight would also be huge because that has yet to happen under Flus.

and the 2024 FA class is stacked. Tee Higgins, Chris Jones, Danielle Hunter, Brian Burns, Montez Sweat, Rashan Gary, Calvin Ridley, Michael Pittman, Jaylon Johnson. WRs and Pass Rushers galore! Caleb Williams throwing to DJ Moore, Marvin Harrison Jr, and Tee Higgins? How would that look? https://www.nfl.com/news/top-50-nfl-free-agents-in-2024-tee-higgins-headlines-deep-receiver-crop-pass-rus