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I agree, I would rather have Nall or even someone like Horsted up vs Whyte. Due to injuries/lack of production, they may also go with an extra DLine or LB.

I have been hearing it would be Kerrith Whyte, if they brought up another RB. I would like to see Nall too. He can play some FB if needed too.

So the Bears will get a 4th Round Comp pick for Amos and at least a 6th (could become a 5th) for Howard in the 2020 draft.

Thank you:

Too little too late? After losing 4 straight games after starting 3-1 with an anemic offense, you finally decide maybe now it's time to admit your mistake and go back to what worked last year? I am glad they are doing it, don't get me wrong, but it seemed like everyone was calling for this back in Week 1. Daniels is clearly struggling, and with him at Center, he can't help Coward at RG, making a huge void in the line. So I like the move and think it is long overdue.

Remember Mitch was not Nagy's guy, and from reports, Nagy wanted Mahomes out of the 3 tops QBs. To me you have to move on from Mitch, the sample size is large enough to know what you are going to get. What I do find interesting looking at the stats (any of them), Trubisky is lumped in with a group with guys like Mayfield, Darnold, J. Allen, Mariota, Jones, Rudolph, and K. Allen. Murray is right on the cusp of that group, and Goff is right ahead of Murray. So outside of Mahomes and Watson, not many QB since 2017 are doing very good.

Here is the dilemma, what has anyone seen over the last 9 games (going back to playoff game) that would give you any hope that things will change? I honestly cannot think of one facet of this team that has improved since last year. Pace gambled with Trubisky, Shaheen, Miller, and Mack and lost. He should be held accountable. It takes 3 years to completely revamp a team, this is now Year 5 for Pace. In Year 5 with Angelo we made the playoffs and in Year 6 we lost the SB. It was Lovie's reluctance to change QBs that cost us that game. Still kills me to this day. Angelo's last season was 2011 and he finished with a 95-81 record (4x Division titles, 1 SB appearance, and 2 NFCC appearances) in 11 seasons. Emery followed Angelo and in 3 seasons compiled a 23-25 record before he was fired. Pace is 29-43 into his 5th season. This does not compute. If Emery is fired for going 23-25, why does Pace get a free pass for a 32-48 record with 4 last-place finishes in 5 seasons? You have to fire him for that. Which players have improved their game from last year to this year? ARob? O'Donnell? Maybe 2. A few are the same (Whitehair, Trevathan, Mack, Goldman, Nichols, RRH, Prince). How many players have regressed since last year? Massie, Leno, Daniels, Trubisky, Cohen, Shaheen, Burton, Miller, Floyd, Smith, Fuller, Jackson? At least half of the starters are worse this year than last year. That alone is 2-3 games. Then add injuries: Hicks, Daniels, Long, Trubisky, and there is another game or two lost. On offense, we literally added Montgomery and Coward and lost Howard and Long. That's it and we are this much worse than last year. On defense, outside of the Hicks injury, we replaced Amos and Callahan with HaHa and Skrine. The crazy part is HaHa and Skrine have actually been the most consistent players on defense after Mack and Trevathan. So we essentially replaced 4 total starters on offense and defense, and we are this bad. The team just needs to bench, cut, or put players on IR that are not performing for whatever reason. Just cut Lurch and bring up Horsted. Put Burton on IR and let him get his vagina operated on, bring up Raymond or Sowell. Put Trubisky on IR, let him get shoulder surgery and watch (and learn) the rest of the games from the box. Let Helfrich or Ragone take over play-calling duties so Nagy can worry about time management and challenges.

Nagy had a 12-4 record last year, then lost in the playoffs to end the season at 12-5. This season he is 3-5, down to 15-10 overall. Just say we go 3-5 the rest of the way (which is being generous), that would put this year's record at 6-10 and his overall record at 18-15. The offense was bad last year, but was masked by all the defensive turnovers and short fields. We have half as many turnovers thru 8 games this year and it shows in the game scores. Nagy has effectively neutered this offense to the point that all teams have to do is go man on the outside and have 9 in the box to guard against the run and any pass within 5 yards. It seems like most of Nagy's pass plays are these short 5-7 yard curls which make it incredibly easy to defend both the run and pass at the same time. With how bad the offensive line is and Trubisky's decision making and accuracy issues, nothing works. The only time we get going is when teams back off into zone or Cover 2. It opens up the seam and some intermediate throws. The team has to find a way to exploit the defense when they have 8-9 defenders within 5 yards of the LOS and between the hashes. That have yet to do that.

Isn't it crazy that Jackson has become an afterthought? The crazier part, HaHa has played better than Jackson this season. Jackson is getting burnt left and right and has made zero impactful plays. He got trucked by Howard on a Run Blitz in the hole. Embarrassing.

Very crucial player on 2 special teams plays a week. He is so good, you don't even know he is there.

Just run Montgomery 4 times in the I-formation. You will eventually get 2 yards. Running Cohen up the middle is absurd at the goal line. Team has issues at every level. Management/GM roster construction questionable, went all in and lost. Coach is a suspect playcaller and is not enough of a disciplinarian and Fangio may have quelled some of that last year since the players knew he wouldn't let them get away with BS. Players assuming they were already there and didn't need to put the extra work in. All this equals a recipe for disaster like we are seeing. Same in CLE. Preseason hype and zero results. Both CLE and CHI passed on Mahomes and Watson.

It is a conditional pick, but it's believed that the only way it becomes a 5th is if he makes the Pro Bowl, is a 1,000 yard rusher or has a certain number of carries. He has an outside shot at the yardage if that's all it is.

It''s really going to depend on how many QBs go in the first round. At best we might be able to slide into the back end of the first with our first 2nd round pick and maybe a mid-round 2021 pick. That would give the team the 5th year option availability.

So we traded Howard (making $2M) to then sign Davis for $3M a year. However, due to that signing, we lost a 4th round comp pick for the loss of Amos. If we cut Davis by Saturday, the Bears would recoup the 4th rounder and still have the 6th rounder for Howard next April. If Pace is not a complete idiot (jury is still out), then he has to make this move. We could've kept Howard, saved $1M and had a backfield of Howard, Montgomery, and Cohen this year. It's still mind-boggling that the Bears made this move. Pace now seems like one of those dumb people who think they are the smartest guy in the room. The Bears are 29-43 under Pace and headed for the 4th last place finish in 5 years. Last year was a fluke. More than likely a 8-8 team playing the easiest schedule in football. This year? An 8-8 team playing the toughest schedule in football equals a 6-10 record. It's crazy the amount of latitude that this guy has received for one winning season. Other GM's have come and gone who have performed better. Why is he not held accountable? For the Mack trade, which now doesn't even look good? He fell into that one. He now looks bad basically on every trade he has completed.

I just doubt he takes that kind of offer. Someone will pay him north of $10M.

This is more than likely how the season will play out: WK10 - vs DET W, 4-5, offense has over 100 yards in the first half, is applauded for offensive explosion, ClubDub in full effect WK11 - at LAR W, 5-5, Eddie Jackson with first INT of season but return for TD is negated by block in the back (Skrine) WK12 - vs NYG W, 6-5, Shaheen and Burton both catch a pass in the same game WK13 - at DET W, 7-5, Lynch only jumps offside once WK14 - vs DAL W, 8-5, Cohen gets a first down while not running laterally for 25 yards WK15 - at GB W, 9-5, Fuller and Amukamara only play 7 yards off for the entire game WK16 - vs KC W, 10-5, Leno reduces his mistakes to two holding penalties WK17 - at MIN L, 10-6, Pineiro misses kick, lose tiebreaker, miss playoffs, team can blame kicker the entire offseason for failures. In the 2nd Round, Pace drafts a D2 Punter and undersized RB/WR who changed positions his senior year.

Still not worth $13M for next year.

Our problem is too many teams need a QB. Miami, Cincinnati, Tennessee, Denver, and Tampa will probably draft one early. That leaves us using our pick #42ish on a QB assuming we finish as the 10th worst team. That would be the 5th or 6th QB off the board. Is that even worth a 2nd round pick at that point. The big kick in the nuts is giving the #10 pick to the Raiders for something in the mid to late 40's. Our only hope is if the Raiders tail off at some point and finish worse than us, but I doubt it. We have so many needs but almost have to go QB with a 2nd rounder and then try to trade down and recoup a pick with the Raiders 2nd round pick. O-Line, TE, and CB will be top priorities. Right now they don't have a 1st, 3rd, or 4th, so cutting Davis before is critical right now as they would get a 4th round comp pick for Amos as long as Davis is not on the roster on Saturday (Nov 9th). If they don't, again, Pace should be fired. Davis brings nothing to the team and cutting him will actually open a roster spot for someone like Horsted or Whyte and we get a 4th rounder back. It is too simple that Pace will screw it up.

My buddy was on the waiting list for 10 years (or something close to that), and this is the team he gets to pay for? What a gut punch. I want the team to succeed and I will watch every game, but man is it tough right now. When they were bad previously, you knew it, but this team had the potential to be great and Trubisky and the offense have been so bad it's impossible to overcome. Pace should be fired. He has given this team Glennon, Trubisky, Daniel, Barkley and Hoyer as QBs and Burton, Shaheen, and Sims as starting TEs.

To me the bulk of the blame has to be on Pace. He has drafted like garbage and this team is now in cap hell. There are too many immovable contracts for bad players. Guys like Massie, Leno, and Burton are basically guaranteed a roster spot next year for a lot of money. What we thought was a solid young core looks terrible now. To think this is the list of players Pace drafted in the top 100 picks of the draft: White, Goldman, Grasu, Floyd, Whitehair, Bullard, Trubisky, Shaheen, Smith, Daniels, Miller, and Montgomery. You need starters in those picks, you can miss on one or two, but Pace has missed on at least 6 (White, Grasu, Floyd, Bullard, Trubisky, and Shaheen). That's 50% if you count Smith, Daniels, Miller, and Montgomery, and the jury is still out on them. If you don't count them as it's still too early, that's 2 for 8 (25%). Also consider that the Bears gave away additional picks in the top 100 for Trubisky (67), Miller and Mack (2x 1st rounders and a 3rd rounder) which brings the percentage of picks down to less than 20%. The Bears went all-in with Mack and Trubisky last year and lost, and now are going to be feeling the effects of it for the next 3-5 years.

Couldn't catch a pass to save his life. Then on last kickoff, Philly squibs it short and instead of jumping on the ball, Lurch tries to field it and Philly easily recovers to end the game. Not that Trubisky would've done anything worth a damn (needed a TD with no TOs and 20 secs left).

Can you believe the Bears signed Glennon and drafted Trubisky in the same offseason and then benched Glennon after he had 4 straight games with a TD pass, completed over 63% of his passes and 3 games with over 200 yards passing (1x 300 yard game)? For as bad as we thought Glennon was (which he was), Trubisky is actually worse. Trubisky has 0 TD passes in 6 of his last 8 games (not including MIN game where he left with injury). Trubisky now has as many games with less than 200 yards passing than he has with more than 200 yards passing (16 games each). Glennon, in comparison has 13 games over 200 yards, 9 games under 200. The worst part is TD passes. Trubisky has 36 career TD passes in 980 attempts, Glennon, 36 TD passes in 794 passing attempts. Glennon was also on some crap teams, so for him to have the same many of TD as Trubisky is damning to say the least. So the Bears essentially signed and drafted nearly the same QB, yet actually kept the less productive one. Sickening. Another reason the Bears should really look for a new GM and QB.

Seriously, Rodgers with 35 yards passing with 6 minutes gone in the 3rd quarter against the Chargers and down 12-0. Update, Rodgers with 61 passing yards in 3 quarters, Chargers up 19-3 with the Chargers driving early in the 4th quarter. Crazy to think we could've potentially gained a game on GB, MIN, DET, and SEA this week.

New week, same results. The offense had the worst first half in 40 years!!!! Think about how bad some of our teams have been since the late 70's, this team just played worse in the first half on offense than any of those teams with 9 yards and 0 points. We have fired coaches for less, benched QB's for less, yet the team just keeps marching Trubisky out there like everything is good to go. I really could care less what he did when the Eagles went to prevent defense if it didn't result in a win. The defense was so gassed that they couldn't get off the field to save their lives. How many backdoor screens and release plays did the Eagles successful complete first downs on? Something like 6 or 7. You would think the coaches or players would adjust and stop them after maybe 3 or 4. I can't imagine being a player on this team right now. At this point, you are almost just playing not to get injured. Trubisky does not deserve another start. Send him to IR and let him have shoulder surgery now. I would also cut Shaheen. What an absolute abortion of a set of picks by Pace in the 2017 draft. Now the other few players in that draft don't look that good. Cohen has strictly become a gimmick player and Jackson is playing not to get injured and is a ghost of his former self.

Bears lose, Vikings lose, Packers and Lions both losing at half. Ugh...