Bears4Ever_34 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hypothetical here, let's assume Trestman is gone at the end of the year and the Bears have to hire another coach. Which guy is on your radar? The list isn't nearly as appealing as it was 2 years ago. The up and comers: - Todd Bowles (Cardinals DC) - Pep Hamilton (Colts OC) - Darrell Bevell (Seahawks OC) - Adam Gase (Broncos OC) - Dave Toub (Chiefs ST) The retreads: - Mike Shanahan - John Gruden - Bill Cowher Current NFL coaches that might be looking for a job: - John Harbaugh - Rex Ryan - Mike Smith College coaches: - Kevin Sumlin - David Shaw - Brian Kelly I'm sure there are others I am leaving off, but these are the guys off the top of my head who might get an NFL head coaching gig. Who are you looking at? For me, in order, I would want to speak to: 1- Jim Harbaugh 2- Kevin Sumlin 3- Todd Bowles 4- Rex Ryan 5- Dave Toub Harbaugh has taken 3 straight teams to the NFC championship game in his first 3 years as a head coach. He's on his way out the door this year after conflicts with upper management, but he's still a top tier coach in this league and has ties with the Bears. There's been talk that his wife wants him to stay on the West Coast, which may take him off the list right away, but if he truly is available, the Bears would be idiots not to talk to him. I've always been intrigued with Kevin Sumlin, although I'll admit I don't follow college football all that closely. He reminds me of Mike Tomlin, just the way he presents himself. He comes off like a guy who is a leader of men, IMO. I'm always interested in these young guys coming into the league with something to prove. Kevin Sumlin would be near or at the top of my list for the Bears. Not sure if he's ready to make the jump yet, though. Todd Bowles may be the hottest head coaching candidate on this list in the off-season, so the Bears would need to speak to him ASAP. The little I've read about him, I like. He sounds like an aggressive kind of a coach, the way he implements his defense-- Always blitzing. It's about time this Chicago Bears defense got aggressive. They have never had a 3-4 defense in their history. There are some concerns with him though. He's not overly experienced being a coordinator (only his 2nd season) and he inherited some pretty good talent in Arizona, and works under one of the best head coaches in the league. Still, he'd be near the top of my list. Rex Ryan is only interesting to me because HE is interesting, and I like his creative style on defense. Nobody runs a defense like he does, and although his team has sucked for the better part of the last 3 seasons, guys love to play for him. He has a great personality to him. You just need to get him a quarterback.. If Emery or whoever the GM is picks the right QB in the draft, you could hit a homerun with Rex Ryan. The concern with him is that he's another Lovie. Great D-Coordinator, no clue about offense. I agree with that, which is why he's 4th on my list. And finally, Dave Toub. I might actually have him 4th on my list, he and Rex could be interchangeable. Something about him, I like. Special teams coordinators often make good coaches because they are the only coaches on the team that works with everybody, and are always put to the task of getting the most out of the bottom end of a roster. Obviously he has ties here. It would be weird though if Emery were to re-interview him after having already done it when he passed over him for Trestman. This might be a "In case Emery is fired too" interview. Two people I would stay away from are Pep Hamilton and Adam Gase. I want nothing to do with a coordinator for Peyton Manning (unless he was Mike McCoy since he had prior experience). Pep Hamilton is sort of in the same boat. He coordinates an offense run by Andrew Luck. I'm not very found of his scheme overall though. Pretty blah. No creativity in the run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownman Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Seems like an interesting list of potential replacements for Head Coach. Personally I would stay away from the re-treads at this point just because it seems like that is not the solution. Not sure that Shanahan would be that good other than he has dealt with Cutler previously and both Cowher and Gruden have stated that they are not leaving the network positions they respectively have. My thoughts on potential coaches rankings from your list: 1. Dave Toub (Special Coordinators do make good coaches. Ex: George Allen) 2. Jim Harbaugh (if we are able to find the truth about what's happening in SFO) 3. Darrell Bevell (if the Seahawks and Pete Carroll will allow it) Beyond these three I am not sure who else. I am not a fan of bringing in a college coach just because of some success at that level. (remember Nick Saban or Bobby Petrino) Rex Ryan is falling apart in NYC and if there was a way to get his brother Rob instead, that would be an interesting idea. Mike Smith is having problems in Atlanta at this point and not sure where the blame for the Falcons fall. Pep Hamilton has already attempted to work with Cutler and not sure that would be a good thing. I don't know enough about Adam Gase at this point. Another name I'll throw out there and I know he only has experience in the Arena Football League yet, what about Doug Plank? I would even consider bring The Samuri home to coach this team as well. Ideally someone that is old school with a modern way about himself and is able to communicate with his players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I might go after Harbaugh and try to keep him from going to the Wolverines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Here are the names I mentioned in the other thread: 1. Pep Hamilton, Indy OC, former Bears QB Coach 2. Teryl Austin, Det DC, #1 Defense, Division knowledge, we don't have to face him 3. Bob Sutton, KC DC, Great Defense, works with Reid 4. Todd Bowles, ARZ DC, Great Defense, works with Arians 5. Tom Clements, GB OC, Great Offense, Division knowledge, we don't have to face him 6. Pat Shurmur, PHI OC, Great uptempo offense, football genes 7. Adam Gase, Den OC, questionable due to Manning, and probably too young, but similar to McDaniels without the baggage I am not really impressed with Darrell Bevell and Seattle's offense. If not for Beast Mode and an opportunistic Russell Wilson, that offense would be terrible. Also, I really think we need a Defensive-minded Head Coach as the offense seems to be built around the QB anyway (most great offenses have great QBs). I would take Harbaugh in a heartbeat, but that SF offense looks about as bad as ours right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Also, I really think we need a Defensive-minded Head Coach as the offense seems to be built around the QB anyway (most great offenses have great QBs). I would take Harbaugh in a heartbeat, but that SF offense looks about as bad as ours right now. I think a larger part of SFs issue with offense is similar to Chicago. Bad QB. Kaepernick is overrated. He has players like Gore, V. Davis, Boldin, Crabtree and Johnson and still can't seem to connect with regularity. Mostly due to his run first mentality. So here's a thought: what about Rex Ryan as DC next year? He's bound to be fired in NY so there is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 I'm open to a number of candidates, but NO to Pep Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Boxer Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 John Harbaugh as the head coach Rex Ryan as the DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 John Harbaugh as the head coach Rex Ryan as the DC Two thumbs up. (Although I think you meant Jim... But I'm good with either). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 John Harbaugh as the head coach Rex Ryan as the DC That would be a dream come true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 I think a larger part of SFs issue with offense is similar to Chicago. Bad QB. Kaepernick is overrated. He has players like Gore, V. Davis, Boldin, Crabtree and Johnson and still can't seem to connect with regularity. Mostly due to his run first mentality. So here's a thought: what about Rex Ryan as DC next year? He's bound to be fired in NY so there is that. Rex runs a 3-4. The Bears spent some money on 4-3 DE's last year. I don't see us going to a 3-4. Not saying Rex couldn't run a 4-3. When you know defense you know defense. Also if they keep Trestman and hire Ryan, Ryan could possibly take the team over, Jets players love playing for Rex. He has a huge personality. Imagine the power struggle that could develop. Ryan is exactly the opposite of what the Bears upper management would hire, which probably means he would be the right hire! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Rex runs a 3-4. The Bears spent some money on 4-3 DE's last year. I don't see us going to a 3-4. Not saying Rex couldn't run a 4-3. When you know defense you know defense. Also if they keep Trestman and hire Ryan, Ryan could possibly take the team over, Jets players love playing for Rex. He has a huge personality. Imagine the power struggle that could develop. Ryan is exactly the opposite of what the Bears upper management would hire, which probably means he would be the right hire! lol Technically speaking Houston is really more a DL man than he is DE. Wasn't one of his stronger points the ability for run stop rather than sack specialist? If the Bears were to go to a 3-4 he probably wouldn't make the transition very well but then again what are we really losing with him gone? We gained in Willie Young in what we lost in Houston. For the record, I'm not really a fan of Ryan's but he does know him some defense. And right now that is what the Bears need is something to bring credibility to their truest tradition. Their defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Hub Arkish was just on The Score with B&B and he brought up a scary point. If Emery fires Trestman, then he is putting his own job in jeopardy because he doesn't believe management will allow him to hire another HC since his original hire has been a failure. The Bears have historically traveled the path of least resistance, if Emery keeps Trestman than his own job is safe for at least one more season. Unfortunately, this does not get us closer to a championship- it will just give us fans 1 more season of frustration and disappointment. Our only hope resides in George McCaskey. If he truly cared about this organization, he will fire Phillips, Emery and the entire coaching staff and hire a guy to be the President/GM to oversee all player and coaching personnel. A guy like Mike Holmgren who can turn this ship around and actually hire a head coach who can actually take charge of a team. Even if it costs more money then the average head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Hub Arkish was just on The Score with B&B and he brought up a scary point. If Emery fires Trestman, then he is putting his own job in jeopardy because he doesn't believe management will allow him to hire another HC since his original hire has been a failure. The Bears have historically traveled the path of least resistance, if Emery keeps Trestman than his own job is safe for at least one more season. Unfortunately, this does not get us closer to a championship- it will just give us fans 1 more season of frustration and disappointment. Our only hope resides in George McCaskey. If he truly cared about this organization, he will fire Phillips, Emery and the entire coaching staff and hire a guy to be the President/GM to oversee all player and coaching personnel. A guy like Mike Holmgren who can turn this ship around and actually hire a head coach who can actually take charge of a team. Even if it costs more money then the average head coach. This is why George must hire a VP of football and let them make the decisions. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 This is why George must hire a VP of football and let them make the decisions. Peace Exactly. It all starts at the very top. Phil Emery cannot continue to make decisions for this franchise as he has made them worse since he has taken over. What was that graphic they showed in the Packers vs Bears game where they showed how many Packers players were homegrown? Like 90% of their players were drafted by them, where as the Bears have so little players on their team that were originally drafted by the team. They have built their team around free agency because of their terrible drafting... Just shows you how different these two franchises are. If you allow Emery to select a Head Coach, what might happen is that the next coach is a total failure again, and management might finally be fed up with Emery after another year and fire him, leading to this new coach to probably be fired as well if their is a new GM.. So the team would have 3 coaches in 3 years. Not good.. If they are going to fire Trestman, they can't stop there. Emery must be let go. They should be looking for that football Czar right now. There is no reason why they have to wait around to do that now. Hire the football guy and let him decide the fate of Emery. Ted Phillips can no longer be in charge of finding a competent GM as he is not a football guy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Great article http://grantland.com/the-triangle/searchin...l-head-coaches/ A name we haven't talked about which would be extremely intriguing is Art Briles at Baylor. Briles has the most similar career track record to Harbaugh. Briles doesn’t have the famous NFL playing career, but he built his name upon a pair of successful college coaching jobs in one state — Texas. When the University of Houston hired Briles off Mike Leach’s staff at Texas Tech, it had gone a combined 32-79-1 during the past decade under its two previous coaches, including an 0-11 season in 2001, just two years before Briles arrived. He took Houston to 7-6 immediately and went 34-29 in his five seasons with the school before taking over at Baylor, which hadn’t posted a bowl-eligible record in 12 years. It took Briles two 4-8 seasons to get going, but once Robert Griffin returned from a knee injury in 2010, Baylor never looked back. The once-moribund Bears have gone 54-33 under Briles’s stewardship, including a 21-3 record over the past two seasons. If you want a college coach with a history of turning rebuilding projects into prime-time programs, you’d go for Art Briles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Exactly. It all starts at the very top. Phil Emery cannot continue to make decisions for this franchise as he has made them worse since he has taken over. What was that graphic they showed in the Packers vs Bears game where they showed how many Packers players were homegrown? Like 90% of their players were drafted by them, where as the Bears have so little players on their team that were originally drafted by the team. They have built their team around free agency because of their terrible drafting... Just shows you how different these two franchises are. If you allow Emery to select a Head Coach, what might happen is that the next coach is a total failure again, and management might finally be fed up with Emery after another year and fire him, leading to this new coach to probably be fired as well if their is a new GM.. So the team would have 3 coaches in 3 years. Not good.. If they are going to fire Trestman, they can't stop there. Emery must be let go. They should be looking for that football Czar right now. There is no reason why they have to wait around to do that now. Hire the football guy and let him decide the fate of Emery. Ted Phillips can no longer be in charge of finding a competent GM as he is not a football guy.. The more I look at the situation the Bears are in the more I think George has to fire Ted, hire a new President and let him decide on who stays and who goes. This most likely means Emery and Trestman would be gone too. Its tough to think this is route that needs to go with the talent we have on the Bears Offensive side but Ted has not led us in the right area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 The more I look at the situation the Bears are in the more I think George has to fire Ted, hire a new President and let him decide on who stays and who goes. This most likely means Emery and Trestman would be gone too. Its tough to think this is route that needs to go with the talent we have on the Bears Offensive side but Ted has not led us in the right area. Trestman has a 4 year deal and you can make the case that Emery hasn't done a bad job. I expect both back although I'm not saying they definitely deserve it. Just not sure what excuse they'll give us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Trestman has a 4 year deal and you can make the case that Emery hasn't done a bad job. I expect both back although I'm not saying they definitely deserve it. Just not sure what excuse they'll give us. There will be no excuses from them. They will take ownership. I'm betting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 According to the guys on the Score (I know) Trestman's job is safe and the football Czar thing has no shot of happening. The Bears are looking for reasons to not fire anybody. The best you'll get is probably Mel Tucker, but that begs the question: Which good D-coordinator would want this job as a potential 1 year stay with Trestman as a lame duck coach? Nobody. I see them promoting Pasquloni (sp?) or Hoke to DC and that's about it. Next year is already wasted if this happens. Typical Bears though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Sad, but true. Apathy has hit the fanbase... Can you really pour your heart and soul into this team knowing that ownership doesn't? According to the guys on the Score (I know) Trestman's job is safe and the football Czar thing has no shot of happening. The Bears are looking for reasons to not fire anybody. The best you'll get is probably Mel Tucker, but that begs the question: Which good D-coordinator would want this job as a potential 1 year stay with Trestman as a lame duck coach? Nobody. I see them promoting Pasquloni (sp?) or Hoke to DC and that's about it. Next year is already wasted if this happens. Typical Bears though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I have never wanted to have new coaches so bad in my history of fandom (that is any team). It is a joke how bad our staff is. A total joke and if the Bears try and pull this over, wow is all I can say. I have no idea how anyone could justify keeping this coaching staff around. I also don't see how you can really argue keeping Emery around either. I don't think anyone knows what the Bears are going to do but the McCaskey's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Could this literally be an all time low? It certianly feels like it... Was it this bad at the end with Wanny? I don't recall Jauron this bad... Maybe time has healed thoose wounds. This current one is gushing blood like no tomorrow... I have never wanted to have new coaches so bad in my history of fandom (that is any team). It is a joke how bad our staff is. A total joke and if the Bears try and pull this over, wow is all I can say. I have no idea how anyone could justify keeping this coaching staff around. I also don't see how you can really argue keeping Emery around either. I don't think anyone knows what the Bears are going to do but the McCaskey's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daventry Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I have never wanted to have new coaches so bad in my history of fandom (that is any team). It is a joke how bad our staff is. A total joke and if the Bears try and pull this over, wow is all I can say. I have no idea how anyone could justify keeping this coaching staff around. I also don't see how you can really argue keeping Emery around either. I don't think anyone knows what the Bears are going to do but the McCaskey's. This is a new low for The Bears...I am sickened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Right there with ya Deventry... I'm actually more numb than angry. I've moved on from that step... This is a new low for The Bears...I am sickened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted December 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 @dabearsblog: Mike Francesa: "Rex Ryan's dream job is to be the head coach of the Chicago Bears." I would take him in a heartbeat, but would make sure Harbaugh isn't an option first. Could you imagine what it would be like to have Rex as the HC and his brother Rob as the DC? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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