Year 2 QB QBR Tracker

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, Daventry said:

And the moron on this board who endlessly whined and promoted Fields, with obviously manipulated facts and statistics the entire time, should apologise for the complete waste of time and brain cells spent looking at his posts.  Thank God for the ignore function.

Whine is what some people did while Fields was here. I wanted him to play better but he never got there. I wished him well and Fields haters like you jump to look at conversations from a couple years ago so you tell everyone how smart you are .  I never said he ever was going to be a top 10 QB. I like the way  if you support a player and hope he gets better it's a bad thing. I wasnt the only one on here that wished him well.

Caleb hasnt set the world on fire with one of the best offensive minds in the league but I support him and expect him to get better.  Now if he fails, you'll come back and complain how dumb I was for supporting him a couple yrs from now. Some people just like to be a little bitch because that is their nature. 

You havent made a post since May 26 until now and this is the subject  you wish to comment on. That says everything about you. Once a d*** always a d***

[BearFan PHX]

We werent Fields haters - we just watched the games, and despite hoping he'd be great (I was excited when we drafted him) he turned out to be a turd. That was obvious already 3 years ago.

But to say Caleb hasn't grown this year is a huge mistake. Time is gonna show that opinion is trash too. Caleb's gonna be FINE. In fact, he's gonna be a top 5 QB within the next year or so.

[jason]

Re: Fields, he never got a real shot here behind a historically bad OL. Dude ran for his life and realized running was better than getting killed. Add in coaching changes and scheme changes for the obvious result: bust. Like an apple that appears OK on the outside, the physical and psychological bruises are there, and cannot be taken back. He was ruined and it’s too bad.

RE: Williams, I’m still waiting for a few breakout performances strung together. New Orleans should have been one. He’s got the physical skills, but I’m still not sure about mental.

[Alaskan Grizzly]

4 hours ago, jason said:

Re: Fields, he never got a real shot here behind a historically bad OL. Dude ran for his life and realized running was better than getting killed. Add in coaching changes and scheme changes for the obvious result: bust. Like an apple that appears OK on the outside, the physical and psychological bruises are there, and cannot be taken back. He was ruined and it’s too bad.

RE: Williams, I’m still waiting for a few breakout performances strung together. New Orleans should have been one. He’s got the physical skills, but I’m still not sure about mental.

Well said Jason.  

[Pixote]

4 hours ago, jason said:

Re: Fields, he never got a real shot here behind a historically bad OL. Dude ran for his life and realized running was better than getting killed. Add in coaching changes and scheme changes for the obvious result: bust. Like an apple that appears OK on the outside, the physical and psychological bruises are there, and cannot be taken back. He was ruined and it’s too bad.

RE: Williams, I’m still waiting for a few breakout performances strung together. New Orleans should have been one. He’s got the physical skills, but I’m still not sure about mental.

I agree. Fields was a gifted athlete who never developed into the QB that he was projected to be. I supported him, as I do all Bears who are signed to play for us. There is no need for me to go into how he was mishandled and didn't benefit from a good HC, OC, OL, and one of the better WR rooms in the NFL. Simply put, the Bears failed Fields.

Eventually, we had no choice but to move on. One thing I must say is that, from all accounts, he worked hard, gave 100%, and had the support of his peers. For that reason, I think it's sad that some choose to find it necessary to insult him. I hope he eventually finds success.

I also agree with Jason that the jury is still out on Caleb. 

He's also a gifted athlete, but does he have that extra element —the one that cannot be measured with a stopwatch or tape measure? The QB instincts that cannot be taught. You either possess it or you don't. Only the truly great QBs are gifted with it.  

I keep hearing excuses. Footwork. Cadence. Etc... How long does it take to learn such basic skills?

Caleb is like a beautiful rosebud. But until (or unless) he blossoms, opens up, and uses good QB instincts alongside his physical talents, he will never be a franchise QB. The potential is there. He has started 22 games over a year and a half. It's time. We need him to step forward—no more excuses. I really want him to blossom.

[BearFan PHX]

Fields is a tremendous athlete. When he ran int he open field (before we told him to slide) he was a threat to score on any play from anywhere on the field. He reminded me of Hester that way.

But Fields has never shown an ability to process and get the ball out on time. I dont believe he is a QB.

Caleb is still growing, so those who say he hasnt arrived yet are correct. He needs to be a top 5 QB before anyone can say he is provably worth that overall #1 pick. To those who say "show me" I say that is completely reasonable.

But Caleb has already shown a lot more than Fields ever did. Even Calebs horrible season last year was the 5th best season for a Bears QB of all time. And yes, it wasnt good enough.

This year we keep seeing evidence that Caleb is getting the ball out in rhythm, and growing. I fully expect him to be a major stud. He definitely has the right teacher.

But I think Fields would never be a great QB no matter who handled him, or what he was given. He just doesnt process.

Caleb is on his way to greatness. Not there yet? Totally fair to say. But there is no evidence that he isnt on schedule either.

I love what Im seeing from Caleb, and he will learn as defenses throw things at him, like the Saints zone blitzes this week - at least Caleb didnt bite and throw the picks.

And when protection breaks down, every QB holds the ball and runs. Caleb often makes something out of that too, in Mahomes-like fashion.

I wouldnt trade Caleb for any other QB from his draft right now.