madlithuanian

When did I state that? Rex has just turned it over more... In fact 43 times compared to orton's 17. If Orton's played in 18 games and Rex in 32, then that boils down to 1.3 per game for Rex and only .9 for Kyle.

I agree! As tiresome as this storyline is, it is nothing but bad for the Packers...and I LOVE IT!

I'll worry once the regular season starts...but I also look historically, and Rex doesn't inspire a lot of hope in that department. I do have the think most camps have similar issues... Maybe a more telling sign will be the actual pre-season games.

I do remember that! (unfortunately)

X takes a square! Your assessment there is truly spot on! I think I've inherently felt that, but never saw it clearer than when you put it down in words. I really do feel like team like NE and PIT prepare for worst case scenarios, whereas the Bears seem to be drinking the kool aid that the best case will happen.

Great breakdown! Thanks for laying that all out... We really do look pretty solid...we just need some more oomph on O.

It's called an incompletion, not a turnover... Big difference.

Really? I honestly do not remember Miller or Matthew having nearly the fumbling of snap issues Rex has... I just don't recall that at all. Maybe my recolection is off... I personally worry about it with Rex. He fumbles also when scrambling... I saw it first hand in San Deigo last season.

I'm sure you'll be right up there shortly! Glad you're back in more regularly! I hope your personal situation goes well for you...

No matter how it goes down...it's not good for the Packers. And that makes me happy.

I just finally read this after being away for a week on my honeymoon! I had a hunch it work work out alright! Woohoo!

...same as it ever was.

I agree Pix... Let's hope the kid gets it and makes an impact. If not, it's yet another strike agasint Jerry.

Right now, I'm in complete agreement with you!

...I hope this isn't a bad sign. But it sure ain't lookin' good.

RIght now, looking positively, he's made a moves that saves face for him and the team. He is in camp, thus showing "good faith", and the Bears "never negotiate" unless someone is in camp. I expect a deal to be done by the time I get back from my honeymoon on Aug 2...

Conspiracy theory alert...he's still holding out.

I'm just plain curious what we'll see from Orton now that he's not relegated to the 3rd string.

Our QB's are sad...just look at their respective rankings in the league.

Points well made. But if you're a betting man, which bet do you take? The O-line being good or bad? And even with the great O line that the Pat's had, look at what pressue on Brady did in the Super Bowl... I need a calm cool collected head under cetner. Not a roll of the dice every play.

I think we are officially on the same page!

I can vouch...nfo and cracker are notroius for bustin' each other chops form the old board. If it were anyone else, I'd have raised a red flag as well. With these 2 clowns, just sit back and enjoy! (Thanks for the entertainment fellas!)

You may be right, but I think the team is good enough that a manager rather than a gunslinger gives us a better chance to win more games.... I think overall, Rex will cost us more games than Kyle won't win. (I hope that made sense...) I am taking out Rex's September 2 seasons ago. After those games, the NFL figured him out. Ever since them, he's been completely all over the map with a leaning toward making big blunders and simple errors (botched snaps). I'll admit, I'm biassed. I personally have seen enough of Rex. Whereas I've not seen enough of Orton. Overall, I think Orton does have a better win/loss record. (Maybe someone can confirm/deny that.) I wonder if Orton can get over his physical liabilities, and I wonder if Rex can get over his mental liabilities. But, also, we must question Rex's physical skills in terms of pocket pressence, seeing over the LOS and the small hands. Bottom line, neither guy thrills me. But Rex gives me an upset stomach. The Tums seems to be working for me if I see Kyle under center... But that's just me.

I lend a little more credibility to Clayton than most of the rest of the talking heads. But it would be nice to know his reasons... I tend to think it's the obvious...Rex may win games for you, but he'll also lose them. Whereas Orton may not win some games for you, but he won't lose them. Game manager of over gramebreaker/heartbreaker.

Looks like calmer heads are prevailing as I expected! Now, Jerry, get something done and throw the man a bone!