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He also mentioned that was more than 20 missed tackles. That's on coaching

I agree it was a team loss. Question is what did we expect. The way ppl talked of him when we traded for him he was the ultimate saviour. He was so great didn't matter the surrounding cast. He was gonna go for 4500-5000 yds and 40 scores. The hype was unreal. He always been a gun slinger, a hot head. Willing to take chances because he trusted his arm. I was thinking that he would be able to break Kramer's record for yds in season. But I also thought we would be able to surround him with more than Hester to throw to. I do agree that I think the previous regime ruined him. Question is can he get closer to what he should be. For me that's 4200 yds and 30 scores with 12-15 picks. 1 problem I have is that injuries seem to follow him

Mccown isn't going to get the $7M a yr that Flynn got. Everyone though then that Flynn wasn't worth it. He was 27 at start of that contract. Mccown will be 35. I can't see teams going there at all. But more to your point of is it worth it. Let's say your right that team has made up its mind and jay is there guy. So what do you think happens if team says that like they have but bench him to go with josh for biggest game of the season. What kind of msg do you think that sends to jay. You basically guarantee jay walks at end of yr unless we tag him. Then your talking about spending $16+ nxt yr on a guy who doesn't want to be here thus setting the franchise back even further

Boy now your playing what if games. Come on man. What if trestman didn't kick that long fg. Why play fantasy land

The back to back sacks you speak of. If you want to hold ppl accountable then blame the oline unless you completely missed how those guys came in free on cutler. How is that not on oline/forte. Everyone agrees cutler was not the problem last night except you.

I can't put kroner on there. We replaced 80% of the line this past off season and its actually performed well. Forte is having a career yr. No way that's all forte. Sure the line could be better and I want to see an improvement nxt yr but I like what I see. 2 rooks on the right side and for most part they take care of business. Your others though I can agree with your points. Emery needs to show he can get those defensive players

Exactly. I just can't see him coming back for just $1M like SCS has in his scenario

Yeah I just wonder what his price is

You ain't the only one. If they can't get up for this game they have no business putting on that Jersey

Exactly. I turn on ESPN on radio and remind you I'm a trucker so its the national guys and all morning all anyone can talk about is jay. He wasn't good yesterday but find me 1 player that was good. The team failed to show up period. Poor ST's had us down 14-0 just couple mins into game and down 21-0 very shortly after that. At that point the entire game plan went to shit forcing us to throw the ball every down. The eagles knew this so they just dialed up the pressure. How many sacks did jay suffer do to unblocked guy coming in. Or how many blocks did forte flat out miss. Usually forte is solid in pass protection but not last night. And that defense can't get any worse. How many times does SMC lose containment. Hes a joke and needs cut. And conte? PleSe don't get me started on his putrid piece of poop

I'm not the biggest fan of Tucker. Would love to see Ryan. Just can't see us letting him go after 1 injury riddled yr. Though I agree this mess is also on him. With marinelli and lovie the defense at least came to play every day. That hasn't been the case this yr at all

Yeah that was completely embarrassing just to watch. Last week the eagles got embarrassed against MN and chip had his team fired up and played balls to the wall the whole game. Question is though can trestman do the same. Its now or never

Actually we could technically switch to the 3-4. Mel has coached both systems in past. I am in favor of ditching the cover 2 in favor of a more attacking style defense

Yeah no kidding how is that he always losses contain with his speed and athleticism. He's gotta go. Funny how its his play in GB game that got us to this point. Hopefully he shows up Sunday again against GB then ditch him during off season

If we lose game something tells me its more on defense than jay

Agreed 100% I don't want to see SF

You are aware that those players that were talking about jay and josh were defensive guys right. And I'm sorry but those guys have absolutely no room to talk. Talk about the ultimate irony. If it wasn't for that D how many games would we have won. Bet it outweighs cutler big time

I would hate a TE or WR in round 1. Gotta build up the D. I think we can get TE/WR via FA. And what about Wilson at slot nxt yr. I would love to see what he can do having a full yr in the system. Maybe Marshall can take him under his wing the way he did with Jeffrey

McCarthy spoke today and still nothing new on Rodgers. Still hasn't been medically cleared. I heard 1 medical person that said as of now Rodgers would still be risking an even serious long teem injury should he play. It doesn't sound good for him this week at all. And I'm hoping GB and det both lose so we can wrap this up this week and have nothing to play for against gb

I don't trust our D yo hold them to 21 lol

Dead on. Especially last part about cracker. That's against my religion

If we beat philly and get in playoffs we are guaranteed the #3 seed

I saw that report that some D players were upset with decision to go with jay. That's laughable don't you think. Is that not the biggest case of hypocrisy u have seen from our beloved in a long time. Hell of it wasn't for that D we would have wrapped shit up already. And this is exactly why I can't say its all on cutler to get us into playoffs. If he performs great but the D gives up 45+ pts each game. How can see blame cutler on that on him. That said if jay plays like shit I get the point

Difference for me is I think peanut can stay play at a high level and with URL I didn't have that sense anymore

Exactly and with a win nxt week if we make playoffs we would be gtd the #3 seed. That would be nice but definitely can't look past Philly. I never feel good about shootouts and considering both defenses suck it may take 45 to win. At least for a change we have an offense capable of winning a shootout. Hopefully a Lance Briggs return is the shot in the arm to Wake that defense up