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Keeping in mind that a few weeks ago, Poles said the Bears were "open for business" in regards to trading the #1 pick, I'd be curious to see what type of offer Minnesota would be willing to make. With the #11 overall pick, it would be pretty costly. https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/report-vikings-wouldnt-bat-an-eye-at-steep-price-to-move-up-for-qb

If I had to guess, this more than anything is what kept Warren from being interested in working with him. Not only has he had the experience as the Big 10 Commissioner but I'm sure he 'knows people' still in the business there that he talks to. And bottom line, Warren (and Poles) seem like they're trying to avoid anymore distracting (aka big) personalities while they continue the rebuild with a relatively young team.

And THAT is solely opinion. ??

Well to be fair, name the last QB to have been what you considered "successful" in Chicago? Although I bashed him a lot late in his career, Cutler was pretty damn good. Considering what he had to work with. And I added Chase because although he wasn't a multiple playoff winner like Dak Prescott, er I mean, Kirk Cousins....Chase has played a lot as an NFL QB (was a two-time Heisman candidate) and has a pretty good idea what to look for in that regard. AND played under the relentless scrutiny that is Chicago Bears fandom. So yeah...they have some respect in that regard.

Yeah this sounds a lot like what we was saying a few weeks ago and (surprise) I agree with him. I cited some time back that both he and Chase Daniel threw their support behind Fields. Which I think has some extra weight not only that they both used to play QB in the NFL but for Chicago too. Seems they'd have some idea on what its like. Throw in Moore's comment towards the end of the season that HE thought Fields was better than the top two picks in the draft and you can't help but listen. At the end of the day, I am in no way guaranteeing that Justin will win us a SB. Just that he (or any prospective QB really) could do better if given a better chance with more options and better protection.

or Nix...but either to me would be good. ??

And you speak in absolutes quite a bit. Unless you're in the room with Poles etc, you don't really have a clue what will happen. You and I can both speculate to our heart's content about what may happen until it does happen. Some sports columnists call it a 'hot take' and boy are there plenty of them. At no time did I say or indicate that I thought Flus is or will be great. The examples I gave were of two other coaches that were in very similar situations as Flus is in currently. As it stands today, arguments can be made of how great a coach Vermeil was but his record speaks for itself. He was able to turn around three different teams in three different eras with a myriad of QBs from varying backgrounds (while in Philly he had Ron Jaworski - himself a 2nd round pick, in STL he had Tony Banks to start with - who was another 2nd rounder until Kurt Warner came around - who was undrafted and bounced around a bit before landing in STL, then with KC he had Trent Green who was an 8th round draft pick). In the case of Campbell the jury is still out of how great a coach he will be but what is helping him succeed is the revitalization of Goff, himself a previously #1 overall pick. An example of your absolutism. For now all this is your opinion. There were fans in the last game that chanted "we want Fields", people on many social media platforms are still divided about 50/50 whether we should keep Fields and many former players have suggested the Bears keep Fields. If the Bears keep Fields AND he fails miserably, yes many will be mad. Just like if they draft Williams #1 overall and he fails... But for now, its still pretty clearly divided on which direction we as fans want the team to go. What will management do, we won't know until closer to April 25th.

Well said. I read not all that long ago (Nov-Dec timeframe) that Breer was also quoted as saying he thought that Flus wouldn't be retained. So his credibility does indeed come into question.

Never say never. Campbell's HC record: 2021 3-13 2022 9-8 2023 12-5 (one game from SB) Then there's the example illustrated from Kevin Warren when he worked with Dick Vermiel in LA 1997 5-11 1998 4-12 (regressed this year) 1999 13-3 (won SB) Vermiel did that two other times with two other teams With PHI: 1976 4-10 1977 5-9 1978 9-7 (would have three more winning seasons to include SB appearance) With KC: 2001 6-10 2002 8-8 2003 13-3

Valid question. Especially given teams that were just in the playoffs; Dallas, Philly and now the Bills, were or have started questioning their HC options going into the new season. I agree that getting the Bears to 7-10 this year was a marked improvement, especially if you consider how they started versus how they ended the season (winning 4 of the last 6 games).

That's how "we" found Bagent wasn't it? When Getsy was HC for one of the teams?

Or J’Marcus Russell, Ryan Leaf or another QB that won the Heisman…Matt Leinart. ??‍♂️

I think he meant players: Walker, Blasingame and Nate Davis were all last with the Titans before the Bears. And Trevis Gipson did go to Tennesse last year.

Makes the alleged ‘west coast’ tour that more intriguing. Speculation was that they were hot to get to talk with Kingsbury (which they may have) but I suspect also to work the background on Williams a little. And since we’re already on the West coast, why not offer a deal to Waldron and do a check on a few other draft candidates? (Nix and Penix)? Kingsbury is still in the running for Raiders OC who also have a need at QB and hold the #13 spot overall.

Someday, maybe Kittle will be a Bear. Link: https://x.com/49ers/status/1343008968067538944?s=46&t=KrpJmhSTc4DI1sACtjisOQ

FWIW, pulling for a Detroit v Buffalo matchup. My Detroit Lions neighbor’s wife is from Buffalo. Big day for them today.

Turns out they didn’t need Robbie Gould to beat them after all.

Oh I’m no QB whisperer. lol. I’m hoping Justin works out and just not convinced the top 2-3 picks are better. I was sure that Cutler would get us there and he flamed out. I was also totally wrong about Ryan Leaf. FWIW I think Nix could be something good (agreeing with Jason). So that probably means he’ll suck. Lol.

Not really. If you double the number of starts and extrapolate his stats, Justin isn’t that far off. Oh, and support him with the comparable coaching and team… ??‍♂️

Yeah think you’re right. was going to comment that 70% success rate of #1 overall picks at QB. Jackson (although not an overall #1 pick) still hasn’t had a 4,000 yard passing season. Today would be his second playoff win (I think?) and the course he’s made at least one Pro Bowl. Oh…and on the verge of winning his second league MVP title.

Ironic given you like a guy from NC wearing #10. ? As far as the rest, fair enough. Theres always next season. ??

Word. ??

I’d be willing to compare Justin more to Jackson. So far Jackson has 4TDS (2 rushing and 2 passing) with only ~160 yards passing. Stroud has been exposed not to function well under pressure.

Yet you still haven’t presented it. Has Bill Polian come out and said this about Williams? His observations of Ryan Leaf (at the time) are very similar to what we’ve been hearing about Williams being aloof and other relatable “rumors”.