BearFan2000

How much leverage would we have with teams knowing we don't likely see Glennon as the long term with Trubisky looking to likely take over after this season. However Glennon's contract past this season is pretty cheap we could do Glennon a solid and trade him to a team that is a good fit for him and get something back in return. It'll be interesting to see what trade options are available after the season is over. Now the other scenario is mid season some team's QB goes down and Glennon is on their radar and Trubisky could potentially be at a point to step in. Maybe that becomes a viable option and the return on Glennon would be higher at that point. I know the plan is to have redshirt Mitch this season. But things happen.

Thing about Glennon is that he could have been a victim of circumstance and timing. It was his gig till Lovie brought in McCown and when McCown got hurt Mike got a chance and played well at the end of the season. Then they draft Winston and it becomes Winston's gig. Not the best environment/situation for any young QB to thrive. It's made Glennon mentally tough learning to deal with personal adversity. My gut feeling is he's going to give it all he's got and embrace this opportunity this year. He knows his time in Chicago might be short if he wants to be a long term starter in the NFL. This is his opportunity to showcase that he belongs. If he does well this year and accomplishes that it will benefit him personally and the team. A good audition as a starter will land him a starting gig somewhere, and it will help us win games and not have to rush Mitch into the fire before he's ready. Could wind up being the win win that we saw as a possibility post draft that what if both turn out to be good starter quality QBs? On Trubisky's accuracy and work ethic we could potentially be on the verge of turning the corner at the QB position. How awesome and crazy would it be to be set at that position as being one of those teams who's QB will pick an opponent's D apart like a surgeon. Could we finally have a QB who has the full package? Not just the skills minus the brains, or the brains minus the skills but one who can run an NFL offense with precision? Course it's all speculation at this point but the are reasons to feel optimistic about the longterm potential. It's about time, we have suffered long enough.

Tough break... But we do have depth at the interior of the line. I know Whitehair did pretty darn good at center last year and you'd like to leave him there but one thing about this season concerning a shuffle in the interior of the line is this season we have 3 new QB so it's not like a long time QB/Center combo is getting disrupted. This does provide a good opportunity for Grasu to show what he's got. This all could work out well. And better to happen now than during the season, sucks for Kush, hoping for a full recovery.

It'll be interesting to see. Fantasy implications could mean those who stream defenses could see an uptick in starting whatever D is playing Miami that week. Does make one wonder about the fantasy implications of Miami's skill positions. I don't think it effects Ajayi much but could effect Landry, Parker, and Stills. It could hurt their value. But also could be a wash. Gase likes a run heavy offense and asks his QB's to be more game managers than play makers. The argument could be made that Gase's offense protected Jay from Jay. It suits Tannenhill fine because he's not that great. Jay has the talent and arm to be great but it's the brain farts that get in the way. Did read that Jay made the comment albeit likely jokingly about a QB not needing to be in great cardio shape to play. I am glad his ups and downs are no longer our concern.

"On the sideline: Fox told reporters Thursday that outside linebacker Pernell McPhee was placed on the physically unable to perform list late Wednesday night because a “little irregularity” was discovered in his right knee during a team physical. McPhee missed the first six games last season while recovering from surgery on his left knee. “He truly is day-to-day,” Fox said. “They’re still evaluating that and we’ll keep you posted as that moves forward. I don’t want to be too negative or positive with the idea that we don’t really know yet.” From an article On Kevin White that included updates on Kyle Long, and McPhee. They discovered the issue Wed likely after the presser. It seems like a bang bang deal where possibly after the presser they found out from the physicals that there was an issue with his knee. That said Bears staff hasn't always been transparent concerning player injuries/recovery progress in the past. This could have been optimism in the presser only to find out later that McPhee would have to be put on the PUP List. Either way, it's disappointing that for the second season McPhee has had to start camp on the list. Even worse for him and the team that it's the other knee. It sucks but it is what it is.

Sadly it could end his career. It is a shame the talent is there but if he can't get healthy and stay healthy. There's still a chance he can return so we'll see but it's not looking good. Two straight seasons starting camp on the PUP isn't a good sign.

McPhee again like last season starting training camp on the PUP list. SMH McPhee Pup List On the bright side however, White will not be limited in practice. Hope he finally stays healthy and we see what he can do. White

Neat story about a man who Freeman saw was in trouble and acted. Freeman saves a man's life

Good deal! Was starting to get a little concerned with camp coming up soon.

He truly comes across as a down to earth stand up guy. If he has success on this team and leads us to the promised land he will own this town. Cutler had every chance to be that guy, but inconsistent play and a personality that was frequently off putting and was at times hard to root for. Here to hoping the kid lives up to his potential and gives us a QB this city can be proud of. Lord knows it's been forever since we had that.

Very true, no matter how the CBA sets things up the Agents will always be negotiating terms. It was a good step made in the CBA to slot the Rookie contracts so you don't see astronomical rookie deals to the top end of the first round picks, and it has reduced the potential for holdouts. There's still been some holdouts over contract language and terms, but way better than it was. The article AZ54 linked tells me Trubisky is determined to be in camp on time just as he's been there for all the previous off season stuff. My question is though his intentions are to arrive at camp on time contract or not. Should the unexpected happen and a contract is not in hand by start of camp can he actually show up and participate? I don't recall a situation like that where a player participates in training camp without being under contract. Maybe a player can, but not sure if that would go against the CBA? But I don't anticipate this to happen. I'm betting that his word to his agent is to get it done.

You are correct, I must have missed seeing those signings in May. We were in full on vacation planning mode. Earlier this month we flew out to Portland, OR to visit my Brother & Sister in law. Didn't keep up with Bears news like I normally do. Anyway, glad to see we have 4 of 5 in the fold. Hopefully we get MT signed soon. With him I don't think it will be a problem.

Wanted to start a thread for updates on our draft pick signings. In past years we were quick to get all our picks signed. So far it seems we only have two of the 5 under contract. RB Tarik Cohen, and OL Jordan Morgan. That leaves Trubisky, Shaheen, and Jackson unsigned yet. Still time before camp and hoping these guys get signed soon. They've been at the offseason programs thus far so I'm not to concerned about them being under contract by training camp.

Just like a "news" article claiming anonymous sources. The writer could have surveyed all 31 other teams and just cherry picked ones that fit his narrative. Articles like this are simply low hanging fruit for lazy writers. It takes little work, talent, or skill to jump on a bandwagon of whichever way the wind is blowing at the moment. Paces's moves bucked conventional thought thus it's bad, wrong, and plain stupid. It being the Bears just makes it easier to pile on. Apart from the fan in me wanting us to win nothing would make me happier than to see this pan out and Pace having right to say I told you so. Course if it does succeed you'll see articles talking about how they knew i'd work all along.

That the Bears are projected to have a slim shot at the playoffs by the "experts" doesn't surprise me one bit and is to be expected. Respect is earned and the Bears haven't earned that in recent years. How they got there to their preciction doesn't make sense. They come up with some crazy "formula" to try to predict what they can't know because every year is different. Too many moving parts and variables. It's more about them trying to look smart. Like the expression if you can't impress them with knowledge baffle them with BS. That in a nutshell is the "experts." They look at the past few years records and what the perceive to be a wasted offseason and draft. NFL experts are about as accurate as weather forecasters. Like Stinger pointed out every year there are teams that surprise everyone. There are teams expected to be awesome and don't live up to the hype while teams expected to suck outperform expectations.

While the future is unknown good or bad there are reasons to be optimistic with Trubisky. His current situation has some parallels to his college situation. I like the way he conducted himself having to wait his turn. He approached practice and games as though he was preparing to start even though he knew he was the backup. He prepared hard so if/when his number was called he could step in and not just place hold but have an impact on the game. He could have taken the route of transferring in hopes to start somewhere else but he didn't. He was a hard worker and a teammate first. His approach has been to work hard, prepare hard, stay engaged and the rest will take care of itself. This work ethic appears to be carrying over as an NFL Rookie. It's the approach you want out of a potential franchise QB. Not to come in as a #2 overall pick expecting to be handed everything but expecting instead to work hard for it. That work ethic paid off at UNC and it can pay off in the NFL. He has a hard working no quit attitude and ethic that teammates can rally around and get behind. Whether he succeeds at the NFL level here in Chicago or not he's giving himself the best chance to succeed. Time will tell.

He's back. Apparently they decided to reverse the decision to release him an instead released some no name WR. Full story here

That also could have partly contributed to his drop in production. He was healthy pretty much all season last year but his strong suit is slot. He is now the most established WR in the group here. I'm good with this it's a 1 year signing for a reasonable number and a cheaper option than Royal who seems like was more often injured than on the field. Putting Cruz in his natural spot could be a win win for both us and him. At this point in his career he has something to prove if he wants to stay in the league. If he puts up solid numbers this season we can extend him or some other team will sign him. With so many ? at WR on this team the more bodies you can throw at the position the better the odds of reaching the 53 with at least a serviceable group. The better our WR/QB play the easier it will be for Howard in the run game. The hope is between the WR's and TE's we'll have enough production to keep the offense balanced and help Glennon and Trubisky

Good point most of the scouts from teams who aren't QB needy enough to be interested or need to take one high wouldn't spend valuable time and resources to personally evaluate. They'd probably only do research to the extent that a QB might effect their pick. It'll all be moot if he doesn't live up or proof Pace knew what he was doing if he succeeds. We have to hope he succeeds and solves the QB problem for the next 5-10 years.

I hope your right, I think at least some of these jumps will happen, which ones or how many remains to be seen. It would be a huge boost for this team to go from last year to in the running. I feel we have a shot at being in the playoff hunt this year. I think we are 2 years from being a serious contender. Rebuilds take time and patience when done properly. Pace inherited a team who's core was depleted of talent by past GM's not addressing the aging core that was responsible for the success we had in the mid 2000's. We were more competitive than our record showed last year, the next step is having these younger players step up, take the next step from being competitive to finding ways to win games that last year we found ways to lose. Winning breeds confidence, confidence breeds success.

How crazy and awesome would it be if not only does Trubisky prove to be starter quality but future HOF'er quality. It would be awesome to finally be the ones to strike gold in the QB position. I do agree with the analysis that had he been a 2 year starter at the level of his one year starting, no doubt he'd have been highly coveted commodity and would have probably been a steeper price. Now that is 3 teams scouts out of 32 teams for perspective. But the possibility of the Bears finally striking gold on a QB is something we fans have longed for. If that does happen we'd look back at this pick and what we gave up may end up looking like peanuts.

Retirement wasn't a surprise, but moving into broadcasting is a surprise. For a player who's had an adversarial approach to media it is a career move that I wasn't expecting. But I do think Jay got a bad rap partly earned but I think often piled on. I wish him best of luck in this new career. I also think over the last few years he matured a lot in how he deals with people and press, etc. He is a decent guy and a hard worker. When he has had the chance to sit down and talk football he comes across as a very intelligent guy. It'll be interesting to hear his commentary and perspective in a setting he's comfortable in. It's a chance to repair his image and prove he's a good guy. He had the support of his teammates, it was always his public image that people ragged on.

I think that what if would kick start us into following the model for QB development used by teams like GB, NE, Denver, etc. Green Bay got Brett Favre in a trade with Atlanta and he became a long time starter. In Brett's time there GB continued to draft QB's high every so often so that they'd have the next guy in house when it was time for Favre to either hang em up or move on. Backups like Hasselbeck went on to be successful starters elsewhere. Till it was time for Favre to move on Rodgers was waiting in the wings to take over. We've seen how other teams value the backups on teams like GB, NE, Denver, etc. That value is a good thing to have and allows you get good value in trade for relative unknowns because teams respect the system they are coming from. The key ultimately comes down to how successful our offense is and the team is overall. But if Glennon pulled a Tom Brady it would bode well for the unit's success if not the whole teams success. It'd certainly be a good problem to have and one that's a bit uncharted for the Bears.

That would be ideal and would present good opportunity for the Bears and for Glennon personally. Should Glennon prove to be a starter quality QB he wouldn't and shouldn't be expected to sit behind a successful Trubisky. He'd have had his chance to audition for a starting gig somewhere and a trade would give that opportunity to start somewhere and most likely a reworked contract to pay him accordingly. We'd get something back in trade either picks or players or some combination. It'd be a win win. That's what I hope happens. It would also mean that the Glennon signing and the Trubisky pick were good moves.