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Caleb was the only pick everyone actual knew we were going to pick. Otherwise Poles is full of surprises. For what I understand DA likes is versatile players he can move in an out. Ss that can play up and back. Speed at LB to cover side to side. He likes length, speed and aggressive play. I think Bryant and Bush are those types. Gallimore is that type. Turner fits his mold. I think he had input in bringing in Dayo, Tall DE with long arms that can play in or out. I think when looking at prospects, we find those traits first at those positions. At DE Faulk, Parker, Jacas just ran a 4 .69 40 in a workout. Zion Young? Dennis -Sutton is that type. At DT Woods fits but have heard he has put on 35 lbs since he finished playing games. Don't know if true or what that means. The NTs doesn't fit his type IMO. Gracen Halton, Zane Durant and Kaleb Proctor does. At S it's Theinaman, Bud Clark, VJ Payne and Robert Spears -Jennings. If a mixed review on whether McNeil - Warren is that type. He lacks the long speed but players can make up for that with awareness and short area quickness. A few pundits have compared him to Brisker and we didn't retain him. I'm not sure on McN- Warren. A prospect that interests me is Treydan Stukes can play CB or both S spots. He has moved up draft boards probably is the second round now.

The rule is ( to get promoted) and that happened. Now they add to the description ( top football guy). It hurts no other team, just extra picks for promoting a minority canadate. It insane they are taking this stance. The bears should sue them over this. It will force them to give us the picks or dump the policy. The NFL brass won't like that but it's not like they are doing us any favors now.

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Looked this guy up, a 10.00 on the RAS score. Run a 4.66 at 306 lbs. 39" vertical. 10'10" BJ . That's insane. AND 35.75 inch arms It sounds like a Poles third round pick.

Wow, I didn't know you were into draft porn. Obscure video of someone no one has ever heard of. I would like if more of these type prospects actually hit it big once. I know the Eagles drafted a huge rugby player several years ago as a late round pick that is starting at LT for them so it happens. Jordan Mailata

I think they are just checking out options which says they are planning a DT somewhere in the early draft. I don't think we can read anything extra in it but is a maybe.

Didn't know where to stick this but PFF has been purchased and people are getting laid off. I don't know if how it changes but something is happening. There's always a place for stats but to much credit was given to a flawed system. Cris Collingworth was the original owner.

Stevenson with all his talent still has to prove himself. As far as players like Zak and Hyppolite can still develop into contributing assets. I think to quickly a lot of people blow off players that don't show instant success. We have coaches now that can develop players. Some take longer. Dushon Wright is like that and was a complete surprise. I think we do draft both S and CB in the draft. I am curious to see what a faster team looks like for DAs scheme.

I must have put my email on there site but everyday NFL Mock Draft Database sends me any published mocks. 18 today. Four have us taking Messidor . He's a beast but I don't think we are going to draft a 26 year old rookie that has an injury history. 3 has us taking Theinaman. I don't think he makes it to us but would like that pick. It's not that I think any of these sites have a clue where they will go after pick 15 but it's a point for discussion.

What a great day today. I can now have proper discussions with members.

Go to your profile Go to heading,(ignored users) And put my username in it This was suggested months ago to both of us and I did it for one month. You never did it. Now finally we will eliminate the problem with the only person on here that always goes to name calling until they piss other members off. When I did it, when someone quotes you, the message will show to user not directly. I saw the football God of watching tape still bringing my name up. To do this properly when answering a post just don't quote it and do a normal response. It will save future name calling. I'm doing it right now but make sure the other member that has quit this site twice and been suspended does it. It's sad when adults have to do this but it happened.

First of all that assumption that you get most your information from TTNL came from me only. It is an assumed fact because it is the only pundit you ever mention. I can remember you citing Cronin once but I saw a TTNL episode where I think they talked to her or talked about her. When you go to the extend to pay a subscription for someone that means you follow them. Not sure why say that is a hateful comment towards you. I get you make up your own mind to form your own opinion but unless you otherwise state it, you got most of your information from them. I cite many people because I watch lots of different people. I'm retired and have free time and you probably don't. I don't get why you take these comments as a slam? Every time you read something it's either black or white. Most of my comments are in the middle. If I provide a source then you insinuate I think that person is a football God or something. None of that is true. You always say literally tape never lies but I look at that in a context. It's not any different than PFF stats that has its limitations. Neither of us like them. You watch a game and a player plays bad but if that player has a nagging injury, he may not look good in a few games. Scouts watch every snap and put everything in a overall scope. You may watch a highlight film and a few games to form an opinion. They watch everything to form their opinions. As you have stated many times we have opinions and this is a discussion board. Someone saying you follow TTNL is not a slam but you are always doing comments like that that detracts from the discussion board.

I don't disagree with anything you said or Ashkum. No matter who BPA is at 25, I don't think they will take a WR, RB, IOL or TE. They will have a player in a need area that they will say is their guy. I think probably trade back to fill more spots whether starter or rotational. If you look at free agency they got bodies at LT, LB, DT which suggests to me they won't take the any of them as the top pick. IMO They need a starter at S and a better DE to put in the mix. Players that seem to fit DA's defense are Theinaman, TJ Parker, and Keltric Faulk that will be picked high. It could easily be a CB or a stud LBer and if a LT drops. It depends on how their board falls for them. There are some others I like but think they are more 2 nd round picks. I think they fall back and have 3 2 nd round picks and try to get another top 100 pick. It appears the comp pick may still be in play that would be nice.it will be pick 100? Am I wrong on that?

Phil has a lot of good takes and then after discussing the prospects by watching tape, he says we should go get Decker. Tape on Decker in 2025 is awful. He has bad takes too. 90 minutes of tape doesn't compare to watching every snap of a career of a player. Scouts and some pundits do that. I watch many different sources and then form my own opinion. You say you don't follow anyone and are pushing the one source you follow. If you want to say you trust them more so be i but the majority of your opinion comes from them. None of them are perfect but like you I trust some over others. I value Dave Wannsted, Olin kruetz and generally people that were in the business their whole life. They aren't always right but it comes to trust. I like Gabriel you don't, no problem. If we all just watched one source we would probably all agree on everything which would make this discussion board boring. Dane Brugler has the most complete draft guide and I don't agree with all his opinions but that gives me more information to form my own opinion. You have a tendency to say when I give up a pundit as a view that I faithfully follow that person. I can like someone and still not agree with them on all their takes. The only pundit you have mentioned is TTNL and a lot of your opinions is the same as them. That's your choice, I prefer many voices and am more trusting of former football people but I'm not totally committed to anyone. Not saying anyone is right all the time.

This is a good good talk on DE and the safety position with Eric Edholm, a long time NFL guy.

Subscribing to The Athletic, I get the Dane Brugler draft guide and that is clearly the most complete draft work out there. I don't remember how but it cost 1 dollar for renewal. Original was like 69 Dollars for the year. It's not the money but I'm not going to sub to someone I dislike listening to no matter if he was a genius or not. It's called personality conflict. My problem is working construction for 55 years, I got to dislike arrogant people. Lots of know it alls in that field. I'd rather work with a jerk than a (I'm smarter than everyone else): type of person. I met a lot of smart people but hate people that talk down to their coworkers.

I think he's very similar to what Brisker was and they didn't bring him back. If the bears seem him worthy, I'm not going to complain about the pick. My small amount of input is nothing like what the scouting department brings to the table. I think they want a versatile S that has speed. Theinaman and Treydan Stukes are the fits for DA. Stukes is listed as a CB some places and S on others. If they can't get either of them, I think they surprise us with a later pick at S and go DL early.

I wonder what happens if Braxton plays well all year. That would be a nice situation to deal with. Maybe he earns a big contract, we could get a comp pick.

I don't subscribe to any pundits but do The Athletic and Chicago Tribune. I'll look up ( Car Keys). I don't mind Shayne at all. Him and Phil are on CHGO after dark once a week with Greg. I agree more with Phil on takes than Shayne. I just can't listen for a long time to arrogant people. I swear he thinks he's never been wrong on anything. I don't like Phil but I don't call him a moron because I know he's not. Gabriel isn't either .

It's okay to have your opinion. Maybe if you followed him you would change it. One take he got wrong about does not detract from his years of experience. I said he's not always right, you think when I say things that everything is absolute. You ignore my other comments. I watched Phil several times on your recommendation and don't disagree with some of his opinions, it's his arrogance I don't like. The other guy is fine.

I'm sure he does, I just don't think the bears are giving up that much capital for Garrett. Not sure why the Browns would trade their best assert when Crosby cost 2 1sts and Parsons got 2 firsts and a quality player.

I'm not sure what will present itself but these were teams that had multiple picks in some rounds. Just looking at what Poles may have options to move back. It might be a team that doesn't have extra picks. Poles rarely does what's expected.

Show me where he said Caleb was terrible? I've been following him for 5 years and never saw that . . If anyone wants to watch some good bears content Gabriel Talks Football on Barroom Network. It has the best opening in Bears Nation. He has a lot of good football people on there.

How is it if I disagree with you that means I'm trying to argue? You responded to my post, It's okay if you don't like him but you are not the only person on here. Everything I talk about is not intentionally directed at you. I gave my reasons why I trust him and your argument is he never gets anything right. I follow him and you don't so your take what other people say as meaningful reasons to not like him. I don't care

I looked at the NFL draft trade chart and saw what teams had multiple picks in other rounds. For pick 25 MIA gets 25+89 and we get 30+75+130 MIA has pick 43+ 75+111 Jets has 33+103+140+179 Pitt has 53+76+85+135 Jax has 56+82+88+124 I think the best shot would be 43+75+111 for 25 with MIA