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First of all that assumption that you get most your information from TTNL came from me only. It is an assumed fact because it is the only pundit you ever mention. I can remember you citing Cronin once but I saw a TTNL episode where I think they talked to her or talked about her. When you go to the extend to pay a subscription for someone that means you follow them. Not sure why say that is a hateful comment towards you. I get you make up your own mind to form your own opinion but unless you otherwise state it, you got most of your information from them. I cite many people because I watch lots of different people. I'm retired and have free time and you probably don't. I don't get why you take these comments as a slam? Every time you read something it's either black or white. Most of my comments are in the middle. If I provide a source then you insinuate I think that person is a football God or something. None of that is true. You always say literally tape never lies but I look at that in a context. It's not any different than PFF stats that has its limitations. Neither of us like them. You watch a game and a player plays bad but if that player has a nagging injury, he may not look good in a few games. Scouts watch every snap and put everything in a overall scope. You may watch a highlight film and a few games to form an opinion. They watch everything to form their opinions. As you have stated many times we have opinions and this is a discussion board. Someone saying you follow TTNL is not a slam but you are always doing comments like that that detracts from the discussion board.

I don't disagree with anything you said or Ashkum. No matter who BPA is at 25, I don't think they will take a WR, RB, IOL or TE. They will have a player in a need area that they will say is their guy. I think probably trade back to fill more spots whether starter or rotational. If you look at free agency they got bodies at LT, LB, DT which suggests to me they won't take the any of them as the top pick. IMO They need a starter at S and a better DE to put in the mix. Players that seem to fit DA's defense are Theinaman, TJ Parker, and Keltric Faulk that will be picked high. It could easily be a CB or a stud LBer and if a LT drops. It depends on how their board falls for them. There are some others I like but think they are more 2 nd round picks. I think they fall back and have 3 2 nd round picks and try to get another top 100 pick. It appears the comp pick may still be in play that would be nice.it will be pick 100? Am I wrong on that?

Phil has a lot of good takes and then after discussing the prospects by watching tape, he says we should go get Decker. Tape on Decker in 2025 is awful. He has bad takes too. 90 minutes of tape doesn't compare to watching every snap of a career of a player. Scouts and some pundits do that. I watch many different sources and then form my own opinion. You say you don't follow anyone and are pushing the one source you follow. If you want to say you trust them more so be i but the majority of your opinion comes from them. None of them are perfect but like you I trust some over others. I value Dave Wannsted, Olin kruetz and generally people that were in the business their whole life. They aren't always right but it comes to trust. I like Gabriel you don't, no problem. If we all just watched one source we would probably all agree on everything which would make this discussion board boring. Dane Brugler has the most complete draft guide and I don't agree with all his opinions but that gives me more information to form my own opinion. You have a tendency to say when I give up a pundit as a view that I faithfully follow that person. I can like someone and still not agree with them on all their takes. The only pundit you have mentioned is TTNL and a lot of your opinions is the same as them. That's your choice, I prefer many voices and am more trusting of former football people but I'm not totally committed to anyone. Not saying anyone is right all the time.

This is a good good talk on DE and the safety position with Eric Edholm, a long time NFL guy.

Subscribing to The Athletic, I get the Dane Brugler draft guide and that is clearly the most complete draft work out there. I don't remember how but it cost 1 dollar for renewal. Original was like 69 Dollars for the year. It's not the money but I'm not going to sub to someone I dislike listening to no matter if he was a genius or not. It's called personality conflict. My problem is working construction for 55 years, I got to dislike arrogant people. Lots of know it alls in that field. I'd rather work with a jerk than a (I'm smarter than everyone else): type of person. I met a lot of smart people but hate people that talk down to their coworkers.

I think he's very similar to what Brisker was and they didn't bring him back. If the bears seem him worthy, I'm not going to complain about the pick. My small amount of input is nothing like what the scouting department brings to the table. I think they want a versatile S that has speed. Theinaman and Treydan Stukes are the fits for DA. Stukes is listed as a CB some places and S on others. If they can't get either of them, I think they surprise us with a later pick at S and go DL early.

I wonder what happens if Braxton plays well all year. That would be a nice situation to deal with. Maybe he earns a big contract, we could get a comp pick.

I don't subscribe to any pundits but do The Athletic and Chicago Tribune. I'll look up ( Car Keys). I don't mind Shayne at all. Him and Phil are on CHGO after dark once a week with Greg. I agree more with Phil on takes than Shayne. I just can't listen for a long time to arrogant people. I swear he thinks he's never been wrong on anything. I don't like Phil but I don't call him a moron because I know he's not. Gabriel isn't either .

It's okay to have your opinion. Maybe if you followed him you would change it. One take he got wrong about does not detract from his years of experience. I said he's not always right, you think when I say things that everything is absolute. You ignore my other comments. I watched Phil several times on your recommendation and don't disagree with some of his opinions, it's his arrogance I don't like. The other guy is fine.

I'm sure he does, I just don't think the bears are giving up that much capital for Garrett. Not sure why the Browns would trade their best assert when Crosby cost 2 1sts and Parsons got 2 firsts and a quality player.

I'm not sure what will present itself but these were teams that had multiple picks in some rounds. Just looking at what Poles may have options to move back. It might be a team that doesn't have extra picks. Poles rarely does what's expected.

Show me where he said Caleb was terrible? I've been following him for 5 years and never saw that . . If anyone wants to watch some good bears content Gabriel Talks Football on Barroom Network. It has the best opening in Bears Nation. He has a lot of good football people on there.

How is it if I disagree with you that means I'm trying to argue? You responded to my post, It's okay if you don't like him but you are not the only person on here. Everything I talk about is not intentionally directed at you. I gave my reasons why I trust him and your argument is he never gets anything right. I follow him and you don't so your take what other people say as meaningful reasons to not like him. I don't care

I looked at the NFL draft trade chart and saw what teams had multiple picks in other rounds. For pick 25 MIA gets 25+89 and we get 30+75+130 MIA has pick 43+ 75+111 Jets has 33+103+140+179 Pitt has 53+76+85+135 Jax has 56+82+88+124 I think the best shot would be 43+75+111 for 25 with MIA

With the group of players they have shown interest in, I suspect they move back 5 to 10 spots and still get a good DE and S and then the rest is a BPA scenario. There big board isn't going to look like the consensus ranking because they are more system oriented for the defensive players. It would be nice to have an extra pick in the top 100.

He's going to be 31 this football year, I doubt if he sits out or forces a trade. He has no leverage. He literally talked to the organization to change some contract language. Doesn't seem to me to be a failsafe point yet. He wants the sack record meaning he has to play.

I'm not saying he a football God, but he knows agents and has friends still working in the NFL. I trust him more than most football pundits or random fans. None of them get everything right sometimes his sources give bad information. At least his time in the NFL gives him some creed over some of these pundits that never played football or stepped a foot in a locker room.

Not sure why they would settle for less than they want for the best defensive player in the league. Several think 3 firsts or 2 and a significant player. My guess is a young cheap option not high salary players.

Was listening to Greg Gabriel and he was saying that all our picks were brought in for visits. . That all visits aren't announced. I don't think there is a league rule that says you have to announce visits just stay under 30. It's usually agents that provide that information and some are asked not to say anything.

So are we all in agreement they won't be trading for Garrett? He's going to be 31 this season, he's not going to sit out a season no matter how much he dislikes the Browns off-season plans. Of course another team may give them what they want.

Like you guys said, we can't count on him for the season when making moves. Since this is lying season, doesn't anyone believe they want the rest of the league to think they may take a LT at 25? We very well could be but why would we broadcast that to the rest of the league? They have 3 options unless anyone thinks Kiran jumps back in the race. Poles always surprises us in drafts but I don't think they are taking a QB, WR, TE, IOL or RB. Everything else is on the table.

If you look at our injuries you will see why we sunk to that level. As much as Wright had a lot of TOs, he wasn't a good coverage CB. Gardner Johnson made an impact as a free agent acquisition but wasn't good in coverage. Terrell Smith didn't make a game. Kyle Gordon had issues. You could easily predict a big problem from the start. They made additions in DL but Jarrett wasn't healthy for most of the season, Turner got hurt and Dayo didn't complete the season. Billings play nose dived from the previous season and Dexter didn't progress. Booker missed half the season. Our top 3 LBer were hurt during the season. Safety position has to be addressed and we need more speed in the DL. If we stay healthy we are already a better team. Caleb Banks has slowly dropped out of the first round for several reasons. He's the typical high risk - high reward candidate. Production has never been there for someone with his traits. The foot injuries 2 yrs in a row could be a problem. He could be what Jalen Carter was supposed to be or a high pick bust. Is that worth the 25 th pick? The bears will answer that question. In the second round they may seem him worth it. When I look at tape on a player it's usually a few games and highlights films. I have opinions but I don't pretend to know more than scouts that watch every snap of a players career and then they get it wrong half the time. I just comment on a limited perspective. I trust the bears to do better.

I agree with all of that.

I have listened to many pundits about this and 2 first round picks and a good player isthe floor. There is no reason for them to take a high paid player back. I would say they would ask for Rome Odunze, Luther Burden or Loveland. They have to take a 41 mil Cap hit to trade him before June 1. They have to deal with moving on from Watson in the next two years. They won't want a big contract player back.

Caleb Banks could be the best DT taken this year but he has injury concerns. He also has the same problem as Dexter, he plays to much with a high pad level. I'll pass as our first pick, maybe in the second round is worth the risk.