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I find it interesting that D Leonard and Sanborn both are 4.7 40s guys.

Pringle is just now getting on the field and will have some games to prove his worth. I will say he had two outstanding catches in the Jets game. That was encouraging. Also they started giving Claypool some targets and I liked what I seen in D Evans, much better than Ebner. Being a third round pick, Jones is still going to get a shot to prove his value, his value may be lousy, but its been such a small sample size, he still has time. If I remember Cordelle Patterson didnt catch on right away and had to make several stops before he found his groove as a first round pick. At least V. Jones was only a third round if he ends up busting. Mooney and Claypool is a good start. They will add a high pick WR and then I think ESB, V Jones and Pringle will be brought back.

With all the gifts Pace gave us, that would have been a team killer if we got Wilson. That is why I think Poles has did a good to put us in a good cap situation and actually have a first round draft pick this yr. The pick being so high this yr is just a product of reworking the roster and being bad this yr. BUT their is only two games we havent been in until the end, that's not bad.

I think they already know Borom will never be a competent starter and that's why they have Reiff playing. Being Leatherwood had mono maybe his strength just isnt up to par yet. The fact Poles invested some money in him, I expect to see him probably after the bye. As far as the OL going forward I think he sticks with Jones at LT, Whitehair stays at LG and Jenkins will still be here at RG. I think Poles brings in a vet OC, preferable Pocic and a draft pick to compete with Leatherwood at RT. Carter I think is being groomed to take over for Whitehair but that is probably 1 and 1/2 yrs away. The biggest trait with young players is the necessity to get stronger and that goes for Jones to. Poles prospects may all turn to crap but I think its going to take next yr to prove their value or replace.

My comments were not directed at anyone specific, I have not did an all 22 on him, is he busting every time he has to cover anyone? How often has he been in coverage? I get the weakness but Im not sure MLB covers slot WR a lot to began with. I noticed him miss a couple of routes, but seen him in the way of some completions to. I just watched the Jets game highlights,(limited plays) he missed one coverage but two that were slants that came over the middle looked like it was the SSs coverage area and not his. He had limited coverage snaps. In the defense were running now, they say the weakness is the flats zones.

They say the good teams have 10-12 blue chip players and fill the roster with rookies, FAs and UDFAs. The cap limit restricts teams from buying lots of blue chip players and a good draft if lucky will get you 2 or 3 a year. Jack Sanborn had a chance to play and is playing above average in a poor defense. I think as you surround him with better players that will make him play better not worse. I dont think he ever goes to the pro bowl but he can maintain high end play going forward. Every good team has (good football players) that may not fit the elite measurements, that does not mean they dont have value. I think he is capable of leading the league in tackles, and not sure why people think that isnt a big deal. The playmakers get the big paychecks, of which Sanborn could fall into . In 4 starts he has 48 Ts, 1 FF, 2 sacks, 3 TFL and 3 QB hits. That are not the stats of a average NFL LBer. Bobby Wagner ( consensus all pro) in the last 4 games has 39 Ts, 1 sack and 1 PD. Not sure why so many people are saying, he's playing well (but) He needs to finish the yr and if he continues his high level, he will be the starter next yr. We have other holes to fill we dont need to worry about his MLB spot for now.

An interesting tidbit, since Sanborn took over for Roquan, he's the leading tackler in the league. What I like is the most of his tackles are in front of him, not behind him.

Since losing is an advantage to us now, going forward, Poles gets to evaluate the rest of the roster as people get hurt. That is not a bad thing. Hopefully Mooney and EJ are short term injuries. I would still like to see us beat the packers next week even thou that hurts our slot.

EJ gets paid 35 mil for the next two yrs at current age of 29. He is earning his money this yr but didnt the last two yrs. So they can make a judgement call next yr and if they post June cut him, its a 4 dead money hit. Just have to go yr to yr with him.

The difference is Philly has the best record in the league. Winning games always adds to the narrative.

If we can get Seattle and Detroit to get into a bidding war, we could get both first rounders and a third plus a 2nd next yr. Rams are pretty bad thou and Denver looks bad. So they may not fall enough back to make a big splash.

It would be Bear like to go out and win this game with all that is happening to it right now.

Yes with all of that, you need 3_to 4 blue chip players. You might get lucky and find one later in the draft but you can get one or two if you trade back and still stay in the top 10.

There both blue chip players. When picking a player that high, they have to be pro bowlers. I see Carter doing that, but not sure about Anderson. I think he is a OLB in a 3-4 scheme. I think Myles Murphy may be a better fit. I also like Bresee as a 3 T. Maybe a WR rises to tip 5 status, I can see us doing that as a option. I would say Carter is the guy.

The key, is how far we move down, I think Bresee goes in the top 10. If we stay in the top 5 we could get a huge take for a QB, but we need to stay in the top 15.

I agree that Payne and Will Anderson would be the best case scenario going forward we could hope for. Payne and Carter would be excellent to, but not sure that scenario works out.

Fields is a tough guy but its a painful injury when your body takes shots. I think he starts and comes out early. I'm always thinking winning is important for the culture of the team, but if Siemien wins this game for us , it doesn't put us in a good spot in the draft. That would be very Bear like.

I'm good with anything that would upgrade the front 7 . I'm not sure Poles will invest that much money in the DT position. More like one FA and one draft pick. Jenkins is getting a lot of flack over being hurt but would play in an emergency. Lots of players fall in that scenario. Its how journalists are wording it. I think him and Jones are starters for next year with the rest of the group having new starters. I think they draft a WR , hopefully he becomes a #1. Don't know much about Claypool but if he wants a big contract, he will have to focus next year to do it.

Our example in the league for 2 quality DTs is Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne combined stats: 13 sacks--25 TFL--29 QB hits--36 pressures , I didnt look at every team but I think that is the best DT combo. DeForest Buckner 5.5 sacks--4 TFL-15 QB hits--19 pressures Deron Payne 6.5 sacks--11 TFL-- 15 QB hits--17 pressures Deron is 25, I think he would be better to sign him than DeForest Buckner 28

I think if they sign Buckner, I doubt they would use the first round pick on a DT. I would still do it if Carter is there. If Carter is gone, that means Will Anderson would be there.

Pass rushers: on the roster for next year. Al-Q Muhammad , a rotational piece that will be back unless we can upgrade. Dominique Robinson, a rookie with upside. Travis Gipson is signed for next year but I doubt they bring him back unless he starts adding some stats. In FAgency : There are quite a few names, not sure how many are impact players thou. (28 or younger) Yannick Ngakoue 6.5 sacks Lorenzo Carter 3.5 sacks Samson Ebukam 3.5 sacks DuWanye Smoot 5.0 Sacks Draft: Will Anderson/Ala Myles Murphy/ Cle Tyree Wilson/ Texas Tech Isiah Foskey/ND Andre Carter/Army Jared Verse/Flor St Zack Harrison/ Ohio St I think they both draft one high and add one in FA. The jury is still out on Taco Charleston and Gerri Green. Sammis Reyes is a project.

I would say Jack Sanborn changed their thoughts going forward. He turns out to be good.

Patrick has never proven his worth, it would be a 1.3 mil cap hit for him to walk away. Poles will do that if he finds a better option. Or keep him as a backup. If they draft an OC that may be the case. Ratkovich would be a nice addition, he would bring more than blocking.

He has a stage 1 separation and he could injury it more by playing that could put him in a position to need surgery. I think they dont let him play until after the break 14th week. Boomer Esiason had the same injury and said it was very painful as he played thru it. He said it took two weeks to heal. So rest him and get back with it in the last 4 games. As much as we have been condemning the D , it actually has played better the last two weeks. Jets O with White at QB should not be overwhelming for our D. Another low scoring close game. 17-13 Jets.

Actually his last two yrs (23-24) would be 40 mil left on the books. (according to OTC). Arguably he is in his prime yrs. If Poles thinks the next two yrs are our shot at the playoffs with Fields cheap contract, I can see him do that. I think a shot at a difference maker that would have an inexpensive contact for the next five yrs is more what he will be looking for. If he is going to spend 20 on a DT, he has options in FA. DeRon Payne (26) if not tagged you could get for that . A Will Anderson and Payne on the same line would be a huge upgrade. A lot of holes to fill, it will be interesting how he will play a low pick. He may like a player better later in the draft that may prompt him to trade back and get more capital.