Stinger226

I agree with most of your points. I can see Poles moving on from a bad draft pick, but suspect he is coming back and it would be next yr not this season end. It honestly takes 3 yrs to judge a draft. A lot of first yr good draftees every yr but the majority take 2 to the three yrs to develop. Hurts is a good example of that. His first yr wasnt anything to brag about, got better last yr and broke out this yr. If they judged him his first yr, he may never made progress. Leatherwood will compete next yr for RT but they will bring someone in to compete with him for the job. If Whitehair continues to play bad, he may be replaced next yr. The problem is, we played the best pass rushing team in the league, not sure that should be your ultimate game to judge a players worth. The referring hasnt been good this yr not just in our games.

I dont think we are losing our last 4 games. Fields is to good, and we get enough of an effort out of our defense that will turn into a win somewhere. Probably Minny.

I dont care how talented a player is , if you fumble all the time , you dont play. He will be around next yr and hopefully show some progress. Gordon played well today and one play the slow Sanborn run down Hurts in the backfield with the QB running away from him. Sanborn will be starting next yr.

I agree with everything you have said. I will have to re watch the game to see how Whitehair did. Up until this game he hadnt given up a sack or had a penalty.

There might be a blown assignment that someone didnt fill that lane, without knowing all of the details, hard to blame coaches. Not saying they dont deserve some criticism for somethings. I think the defense played fair against a team that averages over 30 points a game. With them basically not having a pass rush, the DBs performed fairly well. Stats didnt look good with both WRs blowing them up, but they have some promising moments.

Worst OT in the league last yr in pass protection. I think he plays more but next yr he will be given the chance to compete for the starter job at RT. Also as well as Jenkins has been playing dont discount putting him at RT and let Leatherwood and (Elgton Jenkins ) compete at RG.

Jenkins has a neck injury, I was afraid it might be his back or a knee. Maybe its not good news.

I dont think its with the thought of losing. Poles may want that but I know Flus and Getsy is not call playing to lose. It is time to evaluate and how you do that is let them not have help. This is the best pass rush team in the league so probably the worst team to do that with but that's football.

That's good news on Jenkins. ( I think)

For being slow, Sanborn run down Hurts. With no pass rush Jones and Johnson holding their own.

Someone else will have to step forward. A chance to see V Jones and Pringle. Just throw more to Kmet and Monty and Evans.

I would say points and the over.

I think it is clear that B Jones will be our starter at LT next yr. I also think Jenkins has been very good at RG. As much as the optics arent always very good, our OL has improved. I think PFF is flawed but they had us as the 31st rated OL at the start of the season and it is now ranked 10th. I noticed Whitehair has not had a penality and not given up any sacks this yr. I did not see how many pressures he has allowed but he will probably be our LG next season. Poles brought in Leatherwood, hopefully he gets the starts going forward at RT the rest of the yr. I think Poles upgrades the OC position with a FA, it will not be a big cost and will not go thru the ups and downs of a rookie at that position. Also someone to compete at RT with Leatherwood. Ideally for me its Elgton Jenkins. He can play any position on the OL. GB only has 3 mil in cap space next yr. He is familiar with Patrick (backup next yr) and Getsy. If Leatherwood ends up being good, I think we could possible cut ties with Whitehair if we got Jenkins, he would upgrade that spot. There are several OCs available in this yrs FA that would upgrade the spot. Pocic, Boseman, Bradbury, McGovern. I see us grabbing one of them.

Im not saying any drafted RB would not be better than what we have, but think he will draft one later in the draft. When building a team, I dont think Poles invests in a position that was our biggest strength. There are a ton of RBs in FAgency this yr. Monty will have no choice but to sign back here at a reasonable rate. I think Flus likes the leadership, physically that he brings to the table. I think we are still first in rushing in the league. With that high of a pick in the draft as you projected HE AINT GRABBING A RB. I suspect if he adds one , it will be in the 4th round where we have two 4th round picks. FAgency will be before the draft wo we will know if Monty is back here or not.

Several reasons Poles went after Claypool. At the time the draft pick was lower but none of that matters. Claypool is as good as any of the FAs that will available this yr. This draft is not considered strong at WR. Their are 5 rated as first round draftees. Poles thought that was worth the risk to give this yr for Claypool and Fields to get familiar with each other. He is signed for one more yr so I suspect that came into play. He hasnt been targeted in the passing game very much and now hurt so this is a small sample size to say he is a bust. There are arguably only 20 WRs that are considered #1s in the league right now. Mooney was in the next tier not far behind the #1s. Claypool improved he WR room which will not show up this yr with his injury. It will probably not turn out to be the value of the high pick but that has not been determined yet. A big if , IF he does 70 rec, 950, 8 TDs next yr in a contract yr, if will have been worth it. You would need to compare it to what he would have gotten with that pick in the draft . I dont think Poles thinks he is a #1 so he was just upgrading the WR room

I liked all of it but dont think Poles drafts a RB at 39. He will be bringing Monty back and we have Herbert. He will be filling other needs. We are leading the league in rushing with 2 good RBs, no way he grabs one that high.

IF we had a #1 , the other WRs would look better, they wouldnt be getting the ball in critical situations. A #1, Mooney as a two and I expect Claypool play like a #2 next yr also. The key is we may just have to wait to dial in the passing game. If we get a high pick, teams like Seattle and Indy may be needing a QB, have them throw a Metcalf or a Pittman if we trade for them.

Hard to say how everything will play out but Poles is trying to build a consistent winner and in the draft that means best player available. I think he gets OL help in FAgency and tries to fill all needs so he can just take BPA in the draft. It may not be in the cards to get a #1 WR in the draft or FAgency so you just better at every other position and go with Claypool, Mooney, hope V Jones takes a step forward and the rash of other average WRs on the roster now. With Kmet, and RBs that can catch, it is not the bottom of the barrel with the passing game. I think next will be a vastly improved team and then maybe 2024 is the trade for Metcalf or whoever. Dont rule out a team that needs a QB that in the trade scenario to throw in a WR in the mix.

No matter what we may want or the GM may prefer, the players are playing for jobs and they have no intention of losing as far as effort. Philly has played close games in several this year. A TO could change the outcome of a game. A Fields 50 yd run could change the outcome of the game. I think they can compete for most of the game. Also the weather will not be nice, some Philly players could lack effort if they are winning toward the end of the game. Philly is bad against the run, we are the best running offense in the league.

Having the second pick is just a pipe dream, chances of it happening are higher, but I can see us lose the next 3 and then beat Minny, not the strongest team in the league. They were recently the underdog against Detroit as a 10-2 team. If we end up in top 5 , I would be happy. Carter and Anderson may be gone but we take the next best player. Murphy. Paris Johnson, Quentin Johnston. Or the best scenario to trade back. I would hate to trade back with Carter or Anderson on the board.

I agree with you, look at the most successful teams, NE, Pittsburgh, KC, they develop a winning climate. That's why I will say if they win their last 4 games that wouldn't be a bad thing. The successful teams pick last anyway, they still win. BUT I still want a tip 5 pick.

I've looked on a bunch of Draft sites and have not found his name anywhere. I watch Highlights on the top edge rushers. Anderson is the dude but I also like Myles Murphy, Andre Carter II and Jared Verse had game to. Several rated high didnt impress me. Nolan Smith is fast but to small. Wilson and Foskey lacked something.

If the players put it together and win some games, that just means that some of these players are getting better and that is not a bad thing. It would be nice with a high pick , but if we win a few and still hit the top 10, Im ok with that. I seen where PFF listed our OL as the 10th best right now. They are getting better. Granted its with a limited passing game but its progress. The lack of a pass rush definitely puts us in a bad way to try to win, but if we have a few TOs, that could change a game to. I want the high pick but it just turns out like it is. Being Minny isnt that good, they will be trying to win that last game. They are beatable.

That's not what I'm hoping for but with Justin at QB , he's capable of being a difference maker

What if we win our last 4 games? There not going out there to lose , what if Philly doesn't take this game seriously ?