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There are many WRs valued in the 30 to 50 range of the draft. So grabbing one there would not necessarily be a reach if they took one or two. Not that I'm saying all of these big boards by so called experts are accurate but it's a guide to estimate value. Some players may be good day1 and some need time to develop. If we grab two WRs We have a better chance of one being good right away. Several WRs played well last yr as rookies.

I guess I'm saying, I don't think that will happen. Also Frank Clark is still there.

Tyler may end up being very good but I'm not sure he's ready to start day one. Read a lot of draft profiles about him and technique needs a lot of work. Usually LTs that start day one are techno sound and just need strength and more power to work on. I don't think they will expect a high draft pick to start right away. They will bring in a Brown or Fisher. Inside OL would be possibly to find a starter, their on an island and can give a player help.

I could be way off base with this thought, but Poles said he needed playmakers and a better OL for Fields to get better. Patrick is an upgrade over Mustifer and Pringle will be a good player but he's not close to working that out. I think he will load up on OL and WRs in the draft , maybe a TE. He may get lucky and find a Mooney in the 5th but the first 3 picks will be offense. Yes we need CBs, Ss, DL and LBers but his main pickups in FA have been on defense. I think he will fill spots with FAs on defense and top heavy on offense. I don't think he will risk later round picks to improve the offense. The first 3 will be offense, not sure why people keep thinking he's going to address the defense early. I can see him getting a Rainman/OT if he makes it to our pick or a Tyler Smith with the first pick, then probably 2 WRs with 48 and 71. He will try to move back with one or two of those picks so he can get extra picks to then add defensive players. I can see 2 WRs and 2 OL being drafted and maybe a TE.

They only got a 2 and 6 next year for Mack. Quinn had a great yr but will not get more draft capital than Mack brought. I would say maybe a 3rd and 4th .

They think Jones is their 3T, where they draft one will speak a lot as to their faith in him. They left the door open for Ogunjobi to come back as a possible one yr deal giving him time to let the foot heal. Being he hasn't been signed by anyone states he's not healed yet. So a small chance he may be back. As much as I understand the BPA type pick and that DT is very important in the 4-3 but a defensive player early is not going to make the defense great . So I think Offense will be drafted early and often. How is Fields going to grow unless you give him playmakers and better OL. I think the first 3 are all offensive picks.

I think unless we get a DT in the second round, I doubt he would start day one . We signed Justin Jones to a two year contract so they expect him to be the starter. I think the first two picks will be OL and WR. At 71 DeMarvin Leaf could still be there but doubt he would be anything more than a rotation player in his first year. May eventually be good but not day one. Somewhere there may be drafted a Blair Nichols or Akim Hicks but there usually are not dynamic as a rookie. The top 4 are Davis, Wyatt, Winfrey and Travis Jones, they are ranked in the top 50 , don't think they make it to pick 48. Mathis and Leaf are next. They both may make it to 71. If Wyatt or Winfrey are there at 39, I still think we draft a Tyler Smith or George Pickens before them. One I like that is a DE that can play inside is Logan Hall who could be there at 71. I actually think he would be good enough to eventually be the starter but I think any of them need a yr of physical development at the NFL level before they shine.

You actually may be on to something. I was looking at KC websites and one of their needs listed are Edge rusher. They have to replace Hill, Kelce is 33. They lost everyone in free agency but Frank Clark. Need to replace two spots on DL. They have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds. Of course they draft one but if they need to load up for a shot this year, they may try to trade for one. They could give a 3 and 4 and still have 6 picks. They have to replace Matheu , they me think A better pass rush will compensate for his lost. The Poles connection. We have Gipson and Q M. They go for it and we start fresh. Also Ogunjobi has not signed, they could still bring him back at 3T which is more important to the D anyways. This is very possible.

All of that makes sense but the key will be can they absorb Quinn's contract (53 mil over the next 3 yrs) They are stuck with a Frank Clark ( big contract) not producing. Do they really want 2 of those on the books? 10 sacks in the last 2 yrs.

Lately we have had O'shaughnessy visit, DeAndre Carter/WR ( signed elsewhere), Anthony Hichens/LB. I think they make a push to add a few more FAs before the draft in a couple of weeks. I don't think they want to be position dependent when they go to draft. I suspect we can get 3 starters out of the draft, if lucky 4. WR, OL, SAM LB, CB, and SS.If we draft a DE or DT early, they will only end up being Rotational players. A high CB or SS could start. Possibly mid round LB. Ideally WR, OG, SS, SAM LB. CB would probably need most of the season before occupying a starter role. I think he brings in a Xaiver Rhodes type of FA that will start. I think if we trade back and get an extra 3rd that could grab a Nick Cross /SS.

With you on that.

If the first round is top heavy in OTs, probably will go late 1 or early two. Which means he may not be there at 39 let alone55 but he was there in this mock so I grabbed him

I want something like this.

I want 2 OL and 2WRs and then I don't really care. We don't need to draft RBs, QBs.

Ourlads is another website that is run by former scouts that lines player value differently than the general consensus of so called experts. I just take everything in and develop my own opinions and see how they work out. For example, I see Jamboree Salyer/OL from Georgia ending up starting this year somewhere. Read profiles and watch tape to come to that conclusion. We will see, everyone doesn't have him rated very high.

I totally think we should have multiple picks at OL and WR. Load up and fix other spots next year. Finish the defense with cheap free agents.

For draft info, I look at GBNReport, Draft countdown, Dane Bugler and Matt Miller. Bleacher Report has a lot of Windy city gridiron articles.

I think because GMs will like his measurements, he will go before our pick. Tape will say Pickens but would be excited with Watson, Pickens or Pierce. Any TE pick after 71 would be fine. I suspect Kmet takes a step forward and becomes a core player.He had 60 catches last year and with a better passing game could become Fields #2 option in this offense.

Not sure what post to put this in but. In all drafts , A player drops. Who is it going to be. The most WRs ever taken in the first round were 6. So its very possible that 8 are gone before pick 39. According to GBNreport, 7 are ranked in the top 40. Since I think Watson gets picked early, should have choices of Pickens, Moore and Pierce. Of the top 8 , who might drop . I think its Jahan Dotson drops. So question 1 ) would you take Dotson over Pickens, Moore or Pierce? If there is a run on WRs and 3 QBs get picked ahead of us, possibly that Zion Johson, Kenyon Green or Bernard Rainman drops. If any of them are there, question 2) would you take them over a WR? If a edge rusher drops, even though we have 3 solid pass rushers on the team, question 3) do you take them over our needs at WR or OL ?

I would have no problem if all they drafted was OL and WRs. Boost the two positions that help Justin the most. Maybe mix a TE in there.

I don't think this year but I expect them to draft a OG to replace Witehair next year. 12.5 is to much for him unless he plays at pro bowl level. Also they have a rostered player, Dieter Eislsen a OG that came as a UDFA. 6'3" 320 . He's South African and loves football, trained and went to a Ivy League school. Very smart, hard worker. He's been around a couple of years. I wonder if he may be ready to take a jump. He's the type of player Poles would find, and maybe already on the roster.

Tolbert runs good routes and great catch radius, granted against less competition. 4.49 speed is decent and the tape I watched, he always gets contested catches.

I've probably did 100 mocks never seen Green go to 71, several times he dropped to 39. Jurgens is a player Brandon Thorn has mentioned. I think most of the picks will be the offensive side of the ball. I see 5 starters and swing tackle coming out of that draft. I think the possibility exists that Bottom could be moved to LT and Jenkins goes to the right side. Seen that mentioned by some scouts.

Being stuck in Thailand, , I have lots of free time. Watch a lot of tape on draftees. Went from Watson to Pierce to Pickens as my favorite. Also like Sky Moore and Jalan Tolbert. They are really good football players. A sneaky like for me is Romeo Doubs, good tape on him and productive.

We signed another LB, Matthew Adams, A ST guy and Backup. Not all players brought in are going to be potential future core players.