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A name I seen mentioned that I never thought of before is Alex Okafor/NO. He had 4.5 sacks in 10 games last year and is the ascending type Pace likes. 6'4" 260 at 27. May be a fit. He tore his Achilles and will be available when training camp starts.
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We still have Floyd which hopefully takes the next step forward but after him: McPhee--------gone saves 7.1 Young---------- save 4.5 at 32, probably gone Irwin------------just a cheap prospect Jones-----------just a cheap prospect I think we should bring in Houston, younger and cheaper than keeping Young. Resign Christian Jones to backup both inside and out Resign Sam Ocho, reliable backup. In FA: Junior Galette-----on a prove it economical contract Aaron Lynch-------young with upside Trent Murphy------- coming off an injury with upside Adrian Clayborn----- at 29 a good player but probably doesnt fit Paces MO Will Clarke------------could play several roles in fangios defense In the draft: first round----T. Edmunds- M Davenport H. Landry A Key second round-------Leighton Van Ersch D Armstrong S Hubbard beyond--------------K. Truray L Carter J Sweat D Ejiofor J Thomas J Ostman I would sign A Lynch and draft T Edmunds in the first round or Leighton Van Ersch in the second or K Truray in the fourth
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Him more than anybody seems to be all over the place. I think he is more a 15 to 25 drafted player than top 10. I think with possibilities of 4 QBs and Barkley going top 10. He just doesnt seem like the 5 th best player left over for me. Nelson Chubb Fritzpatrick D. Ward ? D James ? R Smith ? I personally think if you taking risks on upside that after the first group T. Edmunds is the best prospect for us.
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I totally agree with you , just not sure he is someone to hang your hat on. At 6'1" 224, to much of a tweener to make an impact at either position.
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JaWaun James had a hamstring injury that sidelined him for the last 8 games. He played well in 2016 that led to them picking up his option for 2018. He is young and did not play well most of the games last year. He will be let go because he is due. 9.3 mil this coming year. Maybe we look at him to replace Massey? He is 25
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There is several teams that need cap space that have bloated contracts for some players. This is a list of potential releases, do we want any of them. Oakland- Michael Crabtree had a bad year, not all his fault but is due 8.25 and cutting him will save Oak 7.7 mil Ravens- Jerry Maclin had a bad year and is due 7.5 mil, they would save 5 mil by cutting him. N.O. - Coby Fleener is due 8.1 mil for his 22 recs. and 2 TDs Miami- JuWuan James/OT is due 9.2 mil coming off an injury prone season. they are going to rescind his 5th year option. 25 years old RT Jets- Muhammad Wilkerson/DT can save 17 mil by designated him a June 1st cut. I think James/OT could be an option as he played well before he got injured. Crabtree and Maclin are older than Pace likes but a inexpensive 3 year deal with everything front loaded may be an option. Fleener maybe an option to take the place of Miller while Shaheen develops.
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The problem is, if you take the QBs out of the picture, there is probably 4 true blue chips players in this draft the next group of 15 players are all rated about the same value. So if you dont draft Barkely-Chubb-Fritzpatrick-Nelson then moving down makes a lot of sense. IF you are Buffalo and there is a QB sitting there they like, you honestly dont think trading the 21 and 22 pick is worth that move? They gave Taylor a contract and will ask him to take a pay cut. Sounds like that will be a problem that will not go away.
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The more I read, the more I think they will keep the Oline intact for one more year and draft in middle rounds a OT to groom for taking Massies job next year. We still have Morgan in the pipeline at OG, so I think they keep Sitton for one more year and groom Morgan to take his spot. So that changes my perspective on predicting who we draft. In trading with Buffalo for there first rounds picks and a third, this is where I am at right now. 1-21 Marcus Davenport/OLB the more I look the more I see him as a late first round pick. 1-22 Josh Jackson/CB He is a good size playmaker with 8 ints as a senior 2-7 Christian Kirk/WR a speed theat that will thrive in the new offense 3- 32 Marcus Ateman/WR the tall go up and get guy 4-a Brandon Parker/OT a OT to groom to take Massies spot 4-b Joel Sweat/5T another prospect for the line 5 PJ Hill /DT a DT to backup Goldman 6 Joe Osman/edge another prospect for the outside 7 Mike White/QB back to drafting one every year
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We are going to be trying to acquire more picks not lose them. Would you trade Howard, Cohen,E. Jackson, or N. Kwait ? those are picks that taken later than the 3rd round. A undersized, injury prone ILB.
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This one sucks dick too http://www.chicagonow.com/daily-chicago-sp...nfl-mock-draft/
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Not the worse, THIS 1 Calvin Ridley/WR 2 Isaiah OLiver/CB 4a Joey Jewel/ILB 4b D.J. Clark/WR 5 Godwin Igwebulke/S 6 Christian LaCouture/DL 7 Brandon Parker/OT I like Ridley but not at 8 and Parker but that is it.
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I think he may be our best choice for the simple fact he is only 19 right now and has a lot of growth coming under the tutorial of Fangio. Plus he will be there at 8. He could be that guy Fangios schemes everywhere on the field .
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I agree they may draft 2 wrs, but have no thoughts it might be in the first round. I have my own thoughts on player value, but it is based on other peoples opinions that have put time in evaluating the players. The experts are only right half the time so none of all of opinions really mater. My whole point of not drafting a WR at 8 is based on several reasons now just because he drafted White and it did not turn out. As I mentioned to Bowling.
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If he drafts a WR that fails, he loses his job, he absolutely has that in the back of his mind. If he was a top 10 rated player, that may be different but most dont have him there. The thing to keep in mind is he will try to fill needs in FA so he is not pinned to a position of need. He will resign Fuller and then add a Amerson or Breeland, not needing a CB at 8. He will resign Meredith and maybe Wright and go out and grab a M. Lee and P. Richardson, not making that position so important to fill at 8. He will resign Houston, bring in a Aaron Lynch and bring back C. Jones. still a need but can wait until the second round. Will keep Willie Young for one more year. At 8 he will take the BPA one of Q. Nelson/OG Fritzpatrick/DB T. Edmunds/edge C. Williams/OT
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I think your spot on with also resigning C. Jones that can play outside. Besides lynch, you also have K Ealy-J. Gallette-A Clayborne. One of these will be here.
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It may turn out to be true, but in all of this we are trying to predict what the Bears will do. Pace will not draft a WR at 8 because: White Last year 3 top 10 WRs did nothing special to contribute to their teams in the first year. History tells us half of the first round picks will be busts. He simply will not take a chance on a WR at 8 when the consensus tells us he is not worth it. Now if we move back to the middle of the round, I think that is possible. He will go with a OLB-CB-OL in the first round.
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I keep seeing people put Ridley as our first pick at 8 but overall, the highest I see WRs rated is in the teens as far as value. Like Mongo said, having White on his resume will cause Pace to over think drafting a WR at that high a spot. Also league history shows that you have just as many busts in the first round as hits. Also many later round WRs have been successful in recent drafts. Last year 3 WRs were taken in the first round(top 10). Corey Davis, Mike Williams, John Ross. Not one would be considered successful last year. The only 2 good rookie WRs last year were a late 2nd round and early 3rd round. JuJu and Cooper Kupp. We aint taking a WR early, period.
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We all keep looking at filling needs with the 8th pick and if we go with just BPA, how much does that change things? To be realistic, there will be 3 QBs and a RB taken in front of us, so that leaves us with the fourth best non glamour position player. The possibility exists a 4th QB taken or gives us a trade back scenario at our spot. BPAs consensus: The three websites I like for player evaluation are GBNDR, Draft Countdown and Matt Miller so those are what is used in this post. Q. Nelson/OG M. Friztpatrick/DB B. Chubb/EDGE these 3 are in the top 10 in all projections. I think if any are available, we draft him, period. Names mentioned in top 10 D. Ward/CB C. Williams/OT D. James/S R.Smith/ILB T Edmunds/EDGE V.Veta/DL If the first 3 are gone, who would be next? I think rating them all close in value, we favor EDGE or OT over the other positions. T. Edmunds or C. Williams would be our pick.
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I just seen where AC is 29 and will turn 30 in this season, which probably doesnt make that much of a difference. Maybe we give him a 2 year deal with good upfront money to allow for a rookie to grow into his role that we draft. Another name I notice was Aaron Lynch, played with Fangio as a rookie and had 6 sacks in limited playing time. 6-6 270 could replace McPhee. Upside expectations would only be 8-10 sacks at the most but at 24 has time to grow and replace the aging Willie Young.
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I like the idea of someone putting the whole consensus together FA, draft , trades , cuts but just find some of his ideas as unrealistic. I think they go in another direction with Amukamara, younger with more play maker ability. someone with more ints. There is no way we have that many trades, maybe one. Like you said, teams will wait for Sitton to be cut , not trade for him.
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https://nflmocks.com/2018/02/04/chicago-bea...on-to-the-wind/ There are a couple of moves I do not agree with but overall a pretty good off season. Trading Bullard for a 5th, not a good idea. Drafting James Daniels/OC with #22 seems like a reach. Not cutting Cooper. Otherwise, like the overall picture.
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I didnt pay attention to his age, not Paces MO going after older players.
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I agree with your opinions except paying 14 mil a year to a slot WR with a 8.8 yard per catch last year. It will not happen here. Now if he signs for much less, then I think they will but not a 12-14 mil a year contract.
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I would be good with your scenario because upgrading the OL at two positions,Im all in on. I guess the only difference in our opinions is how good McG will be. We will know in 3 years. Another scenario I would be good with is grabbing Zack Fulton in FA and plugging him in at OC and have Whitehair at LG and then drafting a potential replacement for RT in the second or third.