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I'm glad he's falling on the sword and all, but come on. Throwing too much at em like what.....asking them to block their frickin guy?!?! I can see throwing too much at the receivers with routes and shit....but pass blocking on the O-Line isn't rocket science. Especially when it's just their front four rushing.

I agree in wanting Hanie to get the start, but let's relax a little bit here. Collins can throw the ball 10 yards down the field and if they simplify the offense a bit he can get the job done. This isn't an automatic loss either.

Agree....I can't for the life of me figure out what is going on. Cutler expressed how much he liked DA and wanted him to play all year last year. Then they finally let him play and he looks great. He looked pretty good week 1 as well. He made some mistakes, no doubt, but wtf?

Not overlooked by me. Anderson never produced and his 12 sacks which made him look promising, were really just a smoke screen. You would think one of the defensive coaches would have been able to see that. If the team was going to crown him based on 12 sacks, and they did, you would think they would have at least done their due diligence and studied his sacks. Was he making good moves? Was he mentally making good choices? Was he overpowering guys? OR was he just getting pretty lucky. If you look back at the detail I posted, his sacks we're pretty damn meaningless. No way were they enough to unseat Alex Brown, but they did it anyway, only to give the spot back to Brown because Anderson was as mediocre as anyone who bothered to study him knew. Then a few years later we're in the same boat...We don't need Brown...Anderson has all the tools. pfft. As for this Grant guy...sure lets give him a shot. It's just weird that the dude was cut and passed through waivers of the UFL, yet he is good enough to play here. If that's the case....get an O Lineman from that league.

how can I view that...do you have a link?

I think they can and in this case did happen by a fluke. Don't be fooled. Those 12 came when the defensive front was at it's best. Anderson walked into more than half of those sacks. 2 of those came against Seattle with no Shaun Alexander to account for. 1 when they were down 27-6 and the other 34-6. 2 came against Buffalo. 1 when they were down 20-0 and the other 40-0. 2 against the Rams. 1 when it was 35-13 and 1 when it was 42-20 with 2:00 minutes left. 1 against 49ers. 1:59 left in the game San Fran down 41-10 1 against a bad Green Bay team that was down 16-0 and ended up losing 26-0 in the opener. He had a couple of .5 sacks and one more against Detroit early on. I think he had 2 important sacks that year. 1 against Arizona that caused a fumble and 1 against Detroit that caused a fumble. Those games were close and those 2 plays contributed to Wins. EDIT : I was just able to view that Arizona sack...Anderson was completely unblocked and had a full sprint to Leinart's blind side right off the ball. This was when the Bears D was at it's peak with Tank and Tommie in the middle and Ogun on the end. Alex Brown had 7 sacks that year too. I mean the 12 sacks were nice, but let's not pretend they were anything more than a product of the system. Brown was always the better player and the smarter player. Anderson was and always will be garbage. I can give a shit about cutting bait on him...I wish they would've done it 2 years ago and Brown would still be here.

Lovie falls into this category as well. He's having success because he is surrounded by great assistants. Martz, Tice, Marinelli. These guys have changed the identity of the "Lovie Smith" team. A good head coach creates a tree of assistants that go on to other jobs and take the identity or mental approach they learned, with them. The head coach passes on his wisdom to the subordinates, who then copy them and go on to success themselves. In the Bears case, the new coaches came in and implemented their strategy, wisdom and identity to the piss poor one that Lovie had out there. Rivera tried pushing some of his own strategy and identity and even though it worked, he was run out of town. Lovie wanted this team, especially on the defensive side of the ball, to be about him. Well he certainly got it…he put his puppet in charge of the defense and watched him fail as he pulled the strings. He then came out from behind the curtain to pull the strings for the world to see. What we saw wasn't pretty. A stubborn coach who showed no passion or aggressiveness. A coach who lacked the creativity or the ability to adjust a scheme, not only on the fly, but also from week to week. A coach who had the balls to say 'trust me' yet didn't have the balls to hold lazy, senseless penalty taking and unproductive players acccountable. I think Lovie learned something and now realizes his lack of tenacity, lack of accountability and lack of overall leadership with the players is not the way to go. What Lovie can do and to his credit, what he is doing, is allowing his assistants to grab the reigns and lead a little. The players are taking on their identity instead of Lovie's. Those 4th down calls….that's all Martz. Lovie has the power to overrule, but the call to go for 6 instead of 3 is coming from the OC who brings the mentality of "you can't stop us" That mentality is not Lovie's…never has been and never will be. The problem is, there's supposed to be a happy median there between letting your Assistants run rampant(Martz) and meddling so much as to undermine their authority(Rivera). Lovie needs to know when to put the brakes on his OC and make the smart play. It seems pretty clear he won't do that. I honestly think he has zero input right now with regard to the Offense and very little with regard to the Defense. He's just the face of the team… the guy in front of the mic on interview day, the guy in charge of the red flag on game day and the guy to give the speech after the game. That's it. Not sure that's worth the 5.5 he's getting paid, but what can you do. I don't think any of these guys are HC material, but they might be able to get by like this for a while, cause I think they all see each other as equal, regardless of title.

Wow...In the nicest way possible.....you're delusional. you've seen him one game this year??? How many games have you seen him in the last 5 years? Do you just go by what you read? It's pretty clear to anyone who watches the Bears casually, not too mention those that are students of the game...that Urlacher is an athletic freak. The only time he hasn't played at a HOF level is when he was playing hurt. Also, you can call him classless if you want....but if it has anything to do with how he is with the media....that all started when they decided to plaster his face on the front page of the newspaper. He was very affable and approachable in the beginning...then his personal life started getting in the news and he has carried a chip since. He constantly deflects the praise to his teammates and you never see him doing the selfless promotion antics on the field. Not sure what is so classless to you, but he plays hard and his teammates rave about him. That's enough for me.

Speaking of crowd...any one hear about the Nick Collins altercation. Sounds like more Milton Bradley crap to me. I don't see how any fan can get away with calling someone the N word with people all around them. People don't stand for that. You may have 1 racist asshole in the bunch, but there would be 20 others around him that wouldn't stand for it and we'd be hearing from them. It just seems that the N word is the ultimate defense, because if thats what sets you off you're excused for your behavior and players know that. Now if this guy really spit on him and used a racial slur, I'd be all for Collins knocking him out. I'm just not convinced and there needs to be more that just Collins word here. Why only Collins? The majority of the team is black. Why didn't the fan say anything to any other player? Hell the majority of the league is black...if you're a racist, why the hell you watching?

Speaking of video booths telling coaches what to do. I couldn't believe McCarthy challenged the fumble recovery. GB could have used that time out and there was no question on the replay that everything happened in bounds. That was Loviesque right there.

How about that horrible call that Kuhn didn't touch the ground? That made the Bears waste their last challenge. If that Ref would have ruled Jennings foot was out of bounds on that fumble. The Bears wouldn't have had a challenge. Man that would have stung.

I don't know how anybody could have said that about out LB core. Interior D-line...yes. As for the defense, I still hate the scheme, but if we're stuck with it...we're stuck with it.

Anybody here willing to eat crow for calling Urlacher washed up, over paid, overrated the last couple years?

The thing with the first group, especially Singletary, is it was the D-lines job to keep blockers off those guys. The defense was geared for them to make plays. I can just imagine the outright gaudy stats Url would have if the Bears ran that same Defense. Instead Url is responsible for staying in his gap and taking on a lineman…or he's responsible for running back 15 yards away from the LOS in zone coverage or both...run up fake a blitz, then drop back 15 in zone coverage...then run back toward the LOS to make a stop. Hamptons job was keep that O-lineman with you so Samurai can just watch the play develop and then fly in and make the stop. It's the same reason Ray Lewis was all pro all those years. The big guys eat up the blockers and Lewis, makes the plays. Put Lewis as the MIKE in Lovie's defense and his numbers would drop significantly as would Singletarys.

Forte tidbit... Forte turned a screen pass against the Lions into an 89-yard touchdown, the longest reception by an NFL running back since the Falcons’ Jamal Anderson had a 94-yarder on Sept. 23, 2001. Since he joined the Bears in 2008 as a second-round pick from Tulane, Forte leads all NFL running backs with 127 receptions for 1,099 yards and ranks third in the league with 3,316 yards from scrimmage, trailing only the Titans’ Chris Johnson (4,147) and the Vikings’ Adrian Peterson (3,805).

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Guaranteed?? Thats a chunk.

I'll take Martz over Rogers. Either way it's selecting the last kid in a pick up football game. Oh I guess I'll take Martz.

I am literally disgusted and sick that Lovie is still the coach. I read what you people are saying on here about next year and I get agita just thinking about it. My glass is not half anything...its bone fricken dry. I don't even want to think about seeing his face on the sideline, at the podium, or even in a god dam restaurant. His scheme, his coaching, his communication skills....ugggh!!!! I am seriously dreading next season cause I really reached my pinnacle of disgust this year and not sure I want to go through with it again. He has basically made watching my favorite team a miserable experience. I am not even happy when they win because they look like shit doing it. Thank God the Hawks have been such a good distraction the last couple years. Actually, how I felt about the Hawks pre Rocky Wirtz is a lot how I'm starting to feel about the Bears and that's just not giving a shit. That's what happens when your organization gives the impression that they don't care. Fans can handle losing when the effort is there and when the see the improvement and it helps when they can see that the players and coaches feel as bas as they do. But when fans see the same mistakes and the same lack of accountability and hear the same things over and over without a hint of emotion, they tend to get emotionless themselves. This team has taken on the personality of Lovie and it has no place on the gridiron!

Who else can they bring in? What DC is going to come here and have any power with Lovie, Marinelli and the old DC Babich there. They need a puppet and Fewell will dance on the strings.

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Sick of hearing how he led them to the SuperBowl in 06 as well. This team won in spite of him in 06. Opportunistic turnovers and a kick returner were the main reason for their success. Lovie's team preparation, defensive scheming, in game changes, discipline were nowhere to be found. After 06 you can add coaching selection to the mix. Somebody point out where this team is better than when Lovie came here....point out where Lovie has improved??? He makes the same dam mistakes he did as a rookie head coach. The team has the same lack of accountability.

I see Matt Forte as a kind of Thomas Jones part 2. Good at a lot of things, but great at none. He doesn't have home run speed, but he can run. He doesn't have all the power, but he can plow. He doesn't have the best cuts, but he can go against the grain. He's not elite out of the backfield, but he can catch. I don't think he will ever be a Top 5 back, but he will give you a good effort and consistency. A lot of RB's like him have had nice careers and that may be all this offense needs with an improved O-line and better QB play.

hahaha....Yeah the D has been great this year. This is such BS. Urlacher is liked by his teammates. He goes out of his way to give credit to others in interviews instead of himself. He praises everyone on the defense regardless of their mistakes. He was put in this shitty fuckin scheme where half the time he is running away from the LOS. Maybe he has a problem with young cocky players that come in like rock stars without earning a freakin thing yet. He could give a shit about his status and ego and anyone who pays attention knows it. Put him in the right scheme and watch him shine. This overrated thing is a fuckin crock. The fact that he has lead this team in tackles when the defense is actually geared away from him doing so goes to show you the talent he has. His motor is non stop out there. I won't get into Lovie and his AA hires...