50england50 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Really good first half from the team. Bagent has managed the game well and we get a good look at him over the next month. Pleased that the d had a stop on the first drive of the second half. Would be nice to drive and get another TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Interesting that on the last play of the half - a hail mary - they put Peterson in instead of Bagent. I suppose thats a partial answer to the question of Bagents arm strength on long passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 The only reason we can play like this because we are playing defense. Good play calling helps and the fact we can run the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: Interesting that on the last play of the half - a hail mary - they put Peterson in instead of Bagent. I suppose thats a partial answer to the question of Bagents arm strength on long passes. I think they are just not asking to much from Bagent, if Peterman gets hammered if doesnt affect everything. Just put him in positive situations helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50england50 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Pass rush looks quite good today is it because the Raiders oline is poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Actually they need to blitz more, he is getting to much time in the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: I think they are just not asking to much from Bagent, if Peterman gets hammered if doesnt affect everything. Just put him in positive situations helps. I was thinking the same thing (not wanting him to throw an INT) but probably (and more concerning) is that they were projecting Bagent can’t throw the long ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: I was thinking the same thing (not wanting him to throw an INT) but probably (and more concerning) is that they were projecting Bagent can’t throw the long ball. That's what I think too. If Bagent had a real long ball, he'd be a contender to be Bears starter next year, passing on the rookie QBs. He is an excellent backup though, I expect us to keep him for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 JJ earned a 15 mil a yr contract today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 The one takeaway I thought interesting was how the Bears were ranked 2nd in rushing (if I’m remembering the graphic earlier) the last two games. And that’s with the first 2-3 RBs on the bench and a guy who was on the Dolphins practice squad two weeks ago helping out in the running game. Why weren’t the Bears doing this more earlier in the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: The one takeaway I thought interesting was how the Bears were ranked 2nd in rushing (if I’m remembering the graphic earlier) the last two games. And that’s with the first 2-3 RBs on the bench and a guy who was on the Dolphins practice squad two weeks ago helping out in the running game. Why weren’t the Bears doing this more earlier in the season? cuz our coaches suck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said: That's what I think too. If Bagent had a real long ball, he'd be a contender to be Bears starter next year, passing on the rookie QBs. He is an excellent backup though, I expect us to keep him for quite a while. He can throw deep. Why do it when you don't need to? Makeshift line and 4th/5th running backs. He played mistake free ball and made plays when he needed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said: He can throw deep. Why do it when you don't need to? Makeshift line and 4th/5th running backs. He played mistake free ball and made plays when he needed to. Im still not sure. He threw a go ball way short last week, but it could also have been because he had a hard rush coming in his face. Today they took Bagent off the field for the hail mary because of his arm, but then again I think our coaches are idiots. I would love to see Bagent show me some deep balls. That would help my question a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 The proof is in the pudding. I love Fields but……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, CrackerDog said: The proof is in the pudding. I love Fields but……. Fields lack of presnap reads and quick deliveries is pudding us in a position to lose games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Hats off to Bagent. You have to feel good for the kid to come from DII and get his first win in his first career start, while also playing pretty well. He didn't do anything special, but I thought he made a couple of really heady plays that I'm not sure the other quarterback does: - The first 3rd down conversion of the game was a perfect example of Bagent going through all of his progressions and finding Scott running across the middle of the field to pick up the 1st down. - The QB sneak play, he had the presence of mind to anticipate Crosby coming over the middle and finding the gap to the right to pick up another key 3rd down. - He made a couple of really nice throws to DJ Moore on those quick out routes. He also dropped a perfect touchdown pass that Bagent later made up on the next play to Foreman. - Only 1 sack. When is the last time Justin Fields was sacked only once in a game? I can't remember. You can clearly see the difference between a guy getting the ball out quicker and the guy that doesn't. All in all, you couldn't have asked for much more from Bagent. This brought me back to the Kyle Orton days of game managing. Over 70% completion and 0 turnovers. I'm excited to see what he can do now in primetime against another mediocre football team next week, assuming Fields is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Hate the win but love seeing a win. Geez, I'm in hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, killakrzydav said: Hate the win but love seeing a win. Geez, I'm in hell. Everyone on here is too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Weve outsourced our tankathon to Carolina, so it's Ok to root to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, ChileBear said: We should have looked like this 5 games ago. Maybe we're building for next year, but that would mean Eberflus stays and I don't think he is our answer as head coach. They looked great for 3 quarters against Denver, then for a full game against Washington, and now a full game against the Raiders. So a bad game against Minnesota tucked in there, but that game was winnable and you could tell the defense was starting to figure things out. The defense extended that into this game. Bagent did enough not to lose, he was not needed to win the game. Fields has been in too many games where he has to win it singlehandedly. If the defense plays like they have for the rest of the season, the O-Line gets healthier, the QB won't be as important to win games. What absolutely sucks is the stupid loss to Denver and the game against MIN, with wins in those games this team is 4-3, which is hard to believe, but a total of 3 total plays are the difference between 2-5 and 4-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 46 minutes ago, Bears4Ever_34 said: Hats off to Bagent. You have to feel good for the kid to come from DII and get his first win in his first career start, while also playing pretty well. He didn't do anything special, but I thought he made a couple of really heady plays that I'm not sure the other quarterback does: - The first 3rd down conversion of the game was a perfect example of Bagent going through all of his progressions and finding Scott running across the middle of the field to pick up the 1st down. - The QB sneak play, he had the presence of mind to anticipate Crosby coming over the middle and finding the gap to the right to pick up another key 3rd down. - He made a couple of really nice throws to DJ Moore on those quick out routes. He also dropped a perfect touchdown pass that Bagent later made up on the next play to Foreman. - Only 1 sack. When is the last time Justin Fields was sacked only once in a game? I can't remember. You can clearly see the difference between a guy getting the ball out quicker and the guy that doesn't. All in all, you couldn't have asked for much more from Bagent. This brought me back to the Kyle Orton days of game managing. Over 70% completion and 0 turnovers. I'm excited to see what he can do now in primetime against another mediocre football team next week, assuming Fields is out. My hope is that Fields maybe benefits from watching Bagent a bit and learns from him. Fields is such a special talent, would be stellar to see him improve in his tempo / quick reads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 48 minutes ago, killakrzydav said: Hate the win but love seeing a win. Geez, I'm in hell. It means you are a true Bears fan!...🍻🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, adam said: What absolutely sucks is the stupid loss to Denver and the game against MIN, with wins in those games this team is 4-3, which is hard to believe, but a total of 3 total plays are the difference between 2-5 and 4-3. Word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: cuz our coaches suck? The same coaches who got the oline to get this run performance even with backups on the field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, AZ54 said: The same coaches who got the oline to get this run performance even with backups on the field? yes, the same ones who mishandled the timeouts at the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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