adam Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Cards are 2-3 in their last 5, Murray is back, McBride (TE) is having a huge year, Conner is very solid on the ground. Bears are favored by 4.5, which says Vegas likes them this week. I am going Bears 24-17 which hurts the Bears draft position and helps the Cards stay close to the Panthers. The Bears normally beat bad teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 I don't think i've ever been able to say this since I moved to Arizona in the 1990s but I haven't watched a single Cards game all year. I have no clue what that team looks like on the field. Beyond Kyler Murray I can't even name a single Cards player. But it is Dec and us Arizonans hate cold weather, at least those of us in the southern part of the state. Bears win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, AZ54 said: But it is Dec and us Arizonans hate cold weather, at least those of us in the southern part of the state. Bears win. I’ll be in the area coming up in a few weeks. Visiting daughter in Northern Cali. But possibly taking a road trip to Tempe to check out ASU for younger kid. Hoping for good weather. This post courtesy of Angel’s Envy. 🥃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 We easily could lose these games or win them. It seems to always have a handful of plays that change a game. Murray was a high draft pick that was supposed to be great but never really got there consistently. Blame it on injuries, but no one considers him elite. QBs drafted high fail more than they become elite. Something to think about in taking a QB at one. We should win this game. Cleveland was a winnable game but defense matters. Rarely does anyone look good against them. AZ isn't special but still could keep it close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: We easily could lose these games or win them. It seems to always have a handful of plays that change a game. Murray was a high draft pick that was supposed to be great but never really got there consistently. Blame it on injuries, but no one considers him elite. QBs drafted high fail more than they become elite. Something to think about in taking a QB at one. We should win this game. Cleveland was a winnable game but defense matters. Rarely does anyone look good against them. AZ isn't special but still could keep it close. In AZ they blame it on the fact Murray quit on his team. That was the topic on the Cards show last night plus how do we get out of this contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 So many aspects go into being an elite QB in this league. Just look at all them drafted since Mahomes came into the league only a handful are considered elite. He has shown flashes but attitude matters. He was a #1 pick in the draft, be careful what you wish for. Williams numbers are great but his intangibles are questionable. Every move Poles makes has risk, I trust him to make the best move for the future of the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 The Bears are still in the hunt. With a win and the following, their playoff chances go up to 10%: 1. LAR beats NO (LAR -4 at home) 2. TEN beats SEA (tough with how SEA looked but it is short week, TEN +2.5 at home) 3. PHI beats NYG (PHI -12 at home) All home teams, TEN the only Dog at +2.5. Under 3 is really promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Bears favored by 4 over Cardinals. Packers only favored by 4.5 against Panthers is surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, adam said: Bears favored by 4 over Cardinals. Packers only favored by 4.5 against Panthers is surprising. I may vomit 'cause I want the Panthers to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, ChileBear said: I may vomit 'cause I want the Panthers to lose. They got their win out of the way. GB, JAX, and TB are all definitely better than ATL and it would take an epic collapse by any of those teams to lose to the Panthers with so much on the line. Young is 2nd in the NFL in sacks with 51. His sack rate is still less than Fields at 1 sack per 8.7 passing attempts. Is the NYG OLine the worst ever? Jones+DeVito= 65 sacks. 8.7 Young 8.4 Fields 8.0 Z. Wilson 5.3 D. Jones (IR) 4.6 Devito Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Houston won’t be around to help Carolina. -ouch- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 Houston hasn't been good this year, .05 sack, 9 Ts, 3 QB hits, 2 TFL. A young guy hungry for a job will probably be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 Houston can want all he wants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 TNF tonight: LAR beats NO helps the Bears slim playoff chances and doesn't affect draft order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, adam said: TNF tonight: LAR beats NO helps the Bears slim playoff chances and doesn't affect draft order. very cool - also Adam I wrote you a PM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Please lose Bears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, killakrzydav said: Please lose Bears! C'mon man. Bear down!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 I'm rooting for the betterment of the franchise. I'm ok with losing out. 1 and 3 is so much better than 1 and 5 or worse. We could set the franchise up for ten years with savvy trades out of 1 and 3. Poles is our guy. He can get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Clean games from JF leading a few 4th quarter scoring drives would be ideal while falling short of a victory IMO. Build towards winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Last year when we kept losing , I was cheering for wins, but after the fact, glad we lost. I think it's more important to develop a winning culture over a couple rounds higher the draft. My take, you're welcome to yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 I am cheering for a win and a clean game, but not disappointed if they lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 whether we root for them to win, or root for an increased draft outcome, we are all rooting for the Bears one way or another. I think it should also be said that if we are firing Eberflus, then whatever culture happened around winning or tanking gets reset when the new guy comes in anyway, so I dont think it carries over. Especially if your QB is gone too? Also, Eberflus has the worst winning percentage of any coach in Bears history, so not much of a culture to preserve? I do think the locker room is full of high character guys, and if anything that's where our culture lies, and thats Poles as much as anyone. But all that said, it's hard to root against them, especially when the defense is on the field. Personally at this point, I feel more like an observer than someone who is "rooting" - I want to watch every chapter of the story of this team, and I look forward to having them be winners in contention again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 I wouldn't mind beating Green Bay. Just don't beat Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted December 24, 2023 Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 There is a storm brewing in Wisconsin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 CAR giving everyone a heart attack, what the hell, 33-30 against CAR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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