January 1, 201313 yr comment_112639 When Pete Carrol failed the 1st time he wasn't coming from the college ranks. He was a pro assistant that failed as a HC, IIRC. It was after that failure that he went into the college ranks. Carroll was a college assistant from 1973 to 83. Peace Report
January 1, 201313 yr comment_112642 Carroll was a college assistant from 1973 to 83. Peace He was an NFL assistant for 10 years 1984-1994 before he got the call to be the Jets HC for a whopping 1 year. Then served as the 9ers DC 1995-1996.That imo says he had paid his dues as an NFL assistant before he got his chance. Report
January 1, 201313 yr comment_112646 He was an NFL assistant for 10 years 1984-1994 before he got the call to be the Jets HC for a whopping 1 year. Then served as the 9ers DC 1995-1996.That imo says he had paid his dues as an NFL assistant before he got his chance. But he was used as an example of a head coach who came from the college ranks and had success. He was in the NFL for 10 years before he got the opportunity as a head coach. My point, again, is I simply don't want a head coach coming straight from college with no NFL experience. I have no issues with them coming in from college as an assistant coach first and working their way to head coach. Peace Report
January 1, 201313 yr comment_112651 But he was used as an example of a head coach who came from the college ranks and had success. He was in the NFL for 10 years before he got the opportunity as a head coach. My point, again, is I simply don't want a head coach coming straight from college with no NFL experience. I have no issues with them coming in from college as an assistant coach first and working their way to head coach. Peace Bill O'Brien (Penn State) was an offensive coach, receivers coach, QB coach, finally OC with the Patriots. Will Muschamp was the Dolphins Defensive Coordinator under Saban. The only college coach being talked about as a HC candidate with no pro experience that I know of is Chip Kelly, from Oregon, who has worked his way up. And honestly, you're right, I don't know that I'd want a college coach who has never been in an NFL locker room for a season taking over as NFL head coach, because the environment can be quite different, so that's a knock on Kelly, but the other guys meet your standard. Report
January 1, 201313 yr comment_112670 Carroll was a college assistant from 1973 to 83. Peace What I meant was, he didn't get hired in the NFL as a head coach because of his college resume, it was because of his NFL experience (where he was for about 10 years before being hired as HC of the Pats). Report
January 1, 201313 yr comment_112671 What I meant was, he didn't get hired in the NFL as a head coach because of his college resume, it was because of his NFL experience (where he was for about 10 years before being hired as HC of the Pats). I have had other people, not necessarily on this board, mention Carroll as a successful head coach coming directly from college. Carroll shouldn't be part of the conversation when discussing a head coach coming directly from college because that is obviously not the case. Peace Report
January 1, 201313 yr comment_112724 But he was used as an example of a head coach who came from the college ranks and had success. He was in the NFL for 10 years before he got the opportunity as a head coach. My point, again, is I simply don't want a head coach coming straight from college with no NFL experience. I have no issues with them coming in from college as an assistant coach first and working their way to head coach. Peace CB first of all I'm not against your preference at all. I'm just hoping to open the field to the best candidate period for the team that I have invested a lot of years( Vintage 66) in.With the introduction of a lot of the teams using some college formations the transformation of a college coach on OFFENSE is not as difficult as it used to be. Just like the coaches in play who have spent years in the booth as analyst are being considered for openings now, the guys currently coaching in college now at least have tried to recruit some of the players that may be in play for teams during FA, the draft and etc. Report
January 2, 201313 yr comment_112738 Christian Ponder went to Florida State. No shit. Hes an FSU fan. Dont u do research before you speak Report
January 2, 201313 yr Author comment_112742 No shit. Hes an FSU fan. Dont u do research before you speak Of course, that's definitely something I can research. Why don't you join a Patriots board? You come on here and bitch and complain about every loss, acting as if an atomic bomb just hit your home. Go away. Report
January 2, 201313 yr comment_112763 Of course, that's definitely something I can research. Why don't you join a Patriots board? You come on here and bitch and complain about every loss, acting as if an atomic bomb just hit your home. Go away. No assclown, you attack me among others, because our opinion differs. Report
January 2, 201313 yr Author comment_112766 No assclown, you attack me among others, because our opinion differs. They differ? One second you write Major Wright sucks, and the next you say you're not talking about Major Wright. Then, you say they should draft LB's even though you acknowledge that they don't need LB's. Why would any GM draft LB's if they have had 2 of the best linebackers in franchise history for many years? There's a difference between opinions and facts. You're arguing with facts. Report
January 2, 201313 yr comment_112788 Of course, that's definitely something I can research. Why don't you join a Patriots board? You come on here and bitch and complain about every loss, acting as if an atomic bomb just hit your home. Go away. Really? How many times am I told (in so many words) to respect other opinions and you put this out? Think that was the whole point of this board; to be able to express personal opinions and thoughts about our "beloved". Now you're telling me (and anyone who reads what you wrote) that it's not ok? Report
January 2, 201313 yr comment_112790 They differ? One second you write Major Wright sucks, and the next you say you're not talking about Major Wright. Then, you say they should draft LB's even though you acknowledge that they don't need LB's. Why would any GM draft LB's if they have had 2 of the best linebackers in franchise history for many years? There's a difference between opinions and facts. You're arguing with facts. I have to agree with terra... it seems like everytime he posts something you start blasting him... so what terra bitches about the team a lot... so do i and a lot of others... but you seem to try to invoke an altercation when he posts something you don't like... someone told alaska if you don't agree with what'd being posted don't read the posts... that's what i do...and until now the team hasn't given a lot to cheer about... we all have a right to vent at times but not to antagonize... Report
January 2, 201313 yr comment_112791 Really? How many times am I told (in so many words) to respect other opinions and you put this out? Think that was the whole point of this board; to be able to express personal opinions and thoughts about our "beloved". Now you're telling me (and anyone who reads what you wrote) that it's not ok? Right on alaska!!! Report
January 2, 201313 yr comment_112801 Beartrap, what on earth is the deal with your signature? 3 large "Temporarily unavailable"s Report
January 2, 201313 yr comment_112813 I'm in agreement w/ you guys on this as well... Join in or gloss over...no need to banish. Right on alaska!!! Report
January 2, 201313 yr comment_112821 I'm in agreement w/ you guys on this as well... Join in or gloss over...no need to banish. Me too. Report
January 3, 201313 yr comment_112835 Muschamp and his Gators will be kicking off in the Sugar Bowl on ESPN shortly. Report
January 3, 201313 yr comment_112839 Beartrap, what on earth is the deal with your signature? 3 large "Temporarily unavailable"s Idk lol i used to have pics with my sig and now its that but don't worry u just reminded me so i fixed it... Report
January 3, 201313 yr comment_112841 Dis guy's got da fire and da passion. Like I said he'd be a modern day Ditka for us. Report
January 3, 201313 yr Author comment_112853 I have to agree with terra... it seems like everytime he posts something you start blasting him... so what terra bitches about the team a lot... so do i and a lot of others... but you seem to try to invoke an altercation when he posts something you don't like... someone told alaska if you don't agree with what'd being posted don't read the posts... that's what i do...and until now the team hasn't given a lot to cheer about... we all have a right to vent at times but not to antagonize... He has every right to criticize him, but when everytime he posts he barely writes a sentence, it's spam. He has posts but no solutions. "They suck"..."Lovie sucks." Ok, so what's your solution? That's probably asking too much, though. He also has no consistency, as I stated earlier in the thread. He wrote Wright sucks, and when people called him out, he said he wasn't talking about Wright. Pick one. Report
January 3, 201313 yr comment_112856 Muschamp and his Gators will be kicking off in the Sugar Bowl on ESPN shortly. I'm loving the game so far Report
January 3, 201313 yr comment_112900 Muschamp's team didn't play with the fire and passion that he possesses. The Gators played an undisciplined and uninspired game.This IMO should take him out of the mix for an NFL HC job at this time. Report
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