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I wasnt sure if it was sarcastic. Glad we agree. unfortunately,. Ozzy got beaten a couple times too. Sure hope someone steps up.

Im watching it now (rewinded) and honestly the first two reps he got beat.

crap! I missed it! I'll have to go back and look at the first series he was in during half time. Thank you for saying that.

I thought you were saying Braxton wasnt at fault? Im saying he got beaten - if you agree, and I misunderstood, then cool we agree.

I havent scouted him - let's just say they want the #1 pick.

hes been beaten a few times today that I saw? And while youre right that the pressure also came from the middle, if Bagent hadnt been on the move, Braxtons guy would have gotten him. He DID get beat to the outside and his rusher was coming free.

for sure, if their goal is to win a few more games this year - but I think they have Fields to sell tickets and get a shot at Arch Manning.

Booker works thru for a sack nice, ha and almost just had another one.

I think he will play the second half, meanwhile Jones just gave ups a sack. Nice catch by Alexander!

Keep in mind that it's our 2nd stringers vs the Dolphins starters. In that case all you can look for is individual performances and flashes. Sewell making plays, for example. I did hope to see Bagent look better than he did in the first quarter. Jones got beat a few times at LT. And I think these games are pretty vanilla for scheme etc on offense - but we are getting a view of the more man calls from Allen. But nothing exotic - saving that for the Vikings!

I guess if we are the more athletic team, and we are coached with more desire this will be an advantage for us.

F*ck yes. "grown-man, in-your-face, physical football" YES.

thats how I feel too - but last year a touchback was to the 25, now theyre bringing it out to the 35. At first glance that seems too much to me.

So I guess it is official that this year a touchback comes out to the 35 yard line instead of the 25. This is a huge incentive to kick the ball in play. Right now I dont like it, but Ill give it time. I was very concerned about the dynamic kickoff when it was first introduced, but it has turned out fine, and I havent seen too many cheap touchdowns, so cool. Thoughts about a 35 yard touchback?

maybe he has cancer and hes having it treated, or maybe he had a drug relapse. We have no idea whether its a good reason or a bad one, and Im not guessing at it either. Im just saying, the team has to go on, and I hope he comes back and can play himself on to the practice squad or something, but until he does, the team has to go on. I would view this very differently if Im his family member than if i am the GM. Its not being cold hearted, its just realistic. Of course I hope the young man is OK, but not everyone gets to play NFL football either.

I agree with this. I'm sympathetic to the players as people, but there is nothing that says they deserve their job either. i think in such a competitive business, you have to be there for the team. It's ok for a player to decide they dont want to play football and be with their family of course, but its ok for the team to move on from them too.

ok, we can agree to disagree

yeah, thats truly strange

Im saying if they are close, and their weaknesses are different, you go with your 2nd round pick. I think everyone in the locker room knows Jones has a weakness for bullrushes. Remember a few years ago when we started all the rookie DBs? There was no scandal. If Jones is clearly better then sure, but if its close, Trapilos got the job.

and what if 71 is gonna be a 76 by midseason because hes getting experience, whereas Jones is already experienced and not getting better? Teams play rookies all the time, and they know the rookies need some trial by fire, so they are necessarily not seasoned when they start?

right! They get to see the situations they need without exposing the players to additional snaps like in a game when youre waiting for scenarios to happen.

cool - I dont think its that big of a deal, but it certainly isnt wrong or anything.

If Braxton is a lot better than Trapilo of course he will start, but if it's close, like Trapilo is a little rough, but Braxton is weak on the bull rush Trapilo has a little trouble to the outside, but Braxton's issue is up the middle, and let's say Braxton is a 73 and Trapilo is a 71 then Trapilo will get the job. Unless Braxton is a beast like weve never seen him be before, he is not getting a second contract, and they will let Trapilo play because he is more likely to get better over the season than Jones.

I agree, the scrimmages are very important. But I think it's less about protecting tape and secrets, and more about putting your players in scripted and controlled situations to see what you need to see, avoid exposing them to injury on reps that arent worth it. You get what you need to get, rather than hoping it comes up in a game. And you dont need to risk players on any extra plays. I wouldnt be shocked to see the #1s out there in the game for one series, and i wouldnt be shocked if they dont play at all either. We'll see how Johnson wants to play it, but I wouldnt expect a quarter or a half from the #1s when as you say the scrimmages are already so valuable.

how do you know that? i contend that if Jones is slightly better than Trapilo he will still play Trapilo so that Trapilo grows and the line gets experience going forward into the future. They're building toward a Superbowl, and so every decision has to be in line with that. Not winning one more game this year, and then starting over next year. That's poor strategy. And ask yourself, who would be better by week 6 if you start them each from week 1? What if Jones is a little better now, but by midseason you think Trapilo will grow into a better option if he plays? I think that's how football teams look at this stuff, especially when it comes to rookies who can change their level of ability quickly from green to getting it in a few games. Weve all seen it before, playing the green rookie with upside over the known vet who might be better right now. Now if Trapilo is terrible, or Jones is amazing, then all bets are off. But if they are at all close, Trapilo gets the job.