BearFan PHX

yeah, I was just screwing around, he is definitely a LT

LOL I dont know anything about him, but that he was a 30 visit guy, so obviously Poles liked what he saw. Cool.

no i understood you. I have seen dozens of examples where he read the defense, made a quick decision and threw the ball like Bagent did in rhythm. He also has that fast throwing motion, but yes he makes fast decisions successfully a LOT of time. Ive seen at least 50 examples over maybe 3 or 4 games of him doing it. It is in his skill set. He held the ball much longer on other plays where WRs werent open, or he was big play hunting. He never won a game in which he put up fewer than 30 points at USC (last year or both not sure), so obviously they had no defense and he was doing his Brett Favre impression. Oh an to the protection, he has this Aaron Rodgers thing hwere when a defender breaks through the line, he circles around to redirect the defender back to the blocker he beat. It's pretty cool to watch, and youre like "he looks like Rodgers there" So often he did have a lot of time to throw by his own making.

so the DE from Utah that people were writing about is available, so is Van Pran and the OT from Yale that we brought in for a 30 visit. So Im happy Poles has those choices, now we will see what he does. Whatever it is, im with it.

that would be great

because half of them didnt even watch the film and are just repeating a narrative in an echo chamber. I have personally seen dozens of plays where he got the ball out as fast as anyone ever with my own eyes. He has a ridiculously fast and compact Marino-esque throwing motion too.

I dont know who is best at all, but i will be happy if Poles has the choice of several names Ive heard of, even if he doesnt take any of them! If C Van Pran, the OT from Yale and DE Eliss are available that will make me happy, and then i trust Poles to do the right thing, whatever that is.

There will be someone who can help us available for sure.

Van Pran is still on the board too?

for EVERYONE

The Lions know a lot of passing is coming their way. NFC North is 100% a passing division now. Our secondary is only eclipsed in talent by our WR room LOL Those battles are going to look great in camp, and Williams will get a lot of live looks against a quality secondary. Hopefully he can throw some of his rookie interceptions in camp.

I dont even know if its a good point. LOL I read their names in some articles, but maybe the 30 visit has some value I dunno.

DE Jonah Eliss from Utah and OT Kiran Amegadjie from Yale are both still on the board and had been connected to the Bears in articles. the OT was a 30 visit too. For what that's worth.

Given how Kmet has been coming on, I've sort of been sleeping on our new TE Everett. Here are two plays, out of context, totally cherry picked I'm sure. The first one shows that he is smart and his style of understanding what's going to happen next on a broken play should make him a great option for Williams when regular plays break down. It feels like our offense isn't just a collection of players with talent, but a system where each player's strengths are a multiplier with the other players strengths too. Finally the Bears are building an identity the way the Packers have for years. When you're a scout or a young player for the Packers (and some other teams too) you can look at tape of the last 5 guys that played your position, and they'd be doing pretty much the same techniques and plays as you're being asked to do. They will have similar strengths and weaknesses, so you know how a player fits into the scheme, whether youre scouting him, or you are the player learning your place. Not every player is a blue chip first rounder, so your roster will generally have guys that are incomplete players. They are good at one thing and less good at another. But if youre in a system that asks you to play to your strengths, then it's a lot easier. Finally we are building a system of Bears football. The result of that will speak for decades. Long past when all the current players are retired. If you build an identity, then the 3 next coaches will know exactly how to use the players the GM got them, and the scouts will know exactly what to look for.

It seems the future plan is to have Moore and Odunze. Allen was a piece of insurance against not getting a WR in the draft, and a clear move to be sure that they give Williams weapons. The way it all worked out, Allen ends up a luxury for this year, he'll teach Odunze and maybe even Moore a thing or two about breaks in routes. We may well not bring him back next year. But for this year at least, we have a ridiculous 3 man roster at WR. It's completely unfair to defenses. Williams has to be thrilled. And so am I!

Well said. I agree with it all. I did hear in the post draft presser with Poles (and he said it twice!) that they had to talk him out of trading UP for Odunze. Awesome.

Well said. Route running is a lost art in the modern, fast, out of structure sandlot ball style of football. I think it comes from laziness and lack of discipline in general. When a WR can run a tight route, he can beat anyone, because the shapes work. It's all fine and good to run a 4.39 forty, but theres a fast guy playing CB too, but a smart route will beat him every time. Exactly. One reason for hope is that Odunze is insane at beating press coverage off of the line. His release is twitchy and nasty. So I think he has that quickness youre talking about, at least at the start of the route. He also has insane spacing skills, like Moore, he finds the perfect seams, angles and spacing. In that way Moore reminds me of our former safety Mike Brown who was also a master of spacing and predicting where someone is going to be in 2 seconds. Odunze seems to have those instincts as well. Odunze is like a baby Moore with better speed. If Allen teaches him the finer points of tight routes (and DJ too!) then we are going to be dangerous for years. Or better said: "We are just going to be dangerous for years"

I think Williams will bring out the dog (more) in everyone by setting an example of hyper-competitiveness. I learned so much about Williams' character and personal style yesterday, and I couldn't be happier.

yeah he doesnt feel like that at all. I think the negative narratives on high ranking players were really in play this year by teams hoping to create situations where players slide to them. For example, Williams seems to be nothing like the sullen, selfish player he was painted to be the last couple of months.

VERY interesting - if you listen to the first three minutes of this, Poles says twice that he had his eye on Odunze, and that it took discipline not to TRADE UP for him. He literally mentions trading up for him TWICE. That's very good news that they had him rated that highly, and that the board fell in such a way that they didnt need to trade up for him - it seems like that was a real possibility. Thank you football gods

I'm thrilled with this draft for us. Looking forward to pick 75

that really answers the questions on Turner and Verse. It took until pick 15 to go defense, and the guy with the medical problems went first. Ha! And then a DT.

it sure does. And I am hugging you Pix! New era!

yeah i dont think any of the D lineman are THAT good, when the top pass rusher in the draft is being talked about as available at #9, hes not THAT dominant.

now trade everything you have for Bowers LOL (kidding - kinda)