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Music has splintered into so many sub genres, since the internet and streaming changed the nature of what a hit song is and who hears it. It's really difficult to find a performer who is young and relevant, and known by everyone in the family. Some few do break out, but to find someone that for example the players would think was cool, and mom and dad at home with the kids all can sing along with is kinda impossible now. And that's gonna be an ongoing problem even after Bad Bunny does his thing.

If the Bears traded Moore, they could fit Crosby or Simmons under the cap pretty easily.

Booker is a good rotational piece and still has lots of room to grow, but I dont think he is an immediate impact, or will fix our pass rush this year? I hope he reaches his potential and becomes and awesome stud, but I think he is a #3 right now, and we will still look for impact pass rushers in trade, free agency or the draft coming up.

If we could find a way to get Maxx Crosby, that'd be amazing. He is a one man wrecking crew. And we know he likes Caleb. His contract is set up so that the Raiders can trade him without too much cap destruction, and his contract has a cap cost of between $27M and $30M the next few years. Not bad at all! Plus he's only 28.

yeah and Im npot even saying that we cant beat a top 5 team, but it would require some luck or for them to have a bad game. But we have enough talent now to beat most teams IF we play our best ball. I think this is what this season is for - learning to be consistent. And next year hopefully we will have a pass rush!

I feel like with all but the top 5 teams in the league, the Bears could beat or lose to anyone. This is a matter of learning consistency - adam you're 100% right, it's drops, metal errors etc. This team is already showing flashes of what it CAN do, now we have to get to where we are doing it consistently. We win or lose on our own at this point, no matter who the opponent is (with the exception of the top 5 teams, who are beatable, but better than us. Next year, with some pass pressure, we should be pretty good.

It's definitely time for Monangai to get more touches, and I personally would like to see them bring Brittain Brown up from the practice Squad too - I thought he looked really good in preseason action. There's a lot of buzz around a trade, but I dunno what will happen with that, whether it's really real inside Halas Hall, what theyre thinking. I dont think Swift is very good. I mean hes better than a lot of backs in terms of having a wider skills set, but he doesnt have great vision when he's got the ball, and he doesnt get north/south fast enough to blast through. I saw some stat that we were #1 in the league in yards before the HB is first touched - which says decent things about our line - but we've all also seen the line fail work together to make it happen especially on the left side before Benedet got in there. But Swift has a 3.3 yards per carry, so that somewhat points the finger at him. Also reading that Johnson may tinker with the scheme during the bye, some guess to move to more outside zone blocking scheme and fewer power run schemed plays. All this to say there are a lot of tweaks in terms of players and scheme that could be tried, and using Monanagai more is probably strongly on that menu. And like I said, I'd love to see Brittain Brown get some carries and see how he is in there, and I wouldnt turn my nose up at a guy like Breece Hall from the Jets (assuming his injury this week isnt bad).

It does look like we are gonna be one of those teams that can win or lose any game on our own for the next stretch. We have it in us to win or lose to each of these teams depending entirely on ourselves, and more and more this team is starting to believe.

Thats true, we dont have enough horses yet for that, especially at DL and HB, which were the same weaknesses most of us saw going into the draft too. But ultimately, I want the other team's best, and to beat em anyway. Soundly and reliably. We got a taste in 1985 of that kind of dominance, and I want it again. I think Ben Johnson might be enough of a maniac to get us there. BJ is absolutely the right kind of coach. Im so glad we got him. I knew Vrabel was a hardass, but I never knew BJ was like this. BJ obviously has the Xs and Os advantage too, but he is a madman about winning, and that's fantastic for our team. I think he out Vrabel's Vrabel honestly, knowing what I know now.

Nah, you were speaking to me in the worst possible ways, and I made you stop, admittedly at great cost to myself too. Call it a nuclear option. Since then there's mutual dislike, but you're not speaking to me like you were before our big blowup. You were saying all kinds of stuff to me because of Fields. It really probably began with Charles Leno, but as we've had one loser after another, and I've called them out, you've been late to agree, and called me all kinds of things. You know this has been two sided. Everyone knows that. Also the fact that you still think he's good because hes starting for the Jets in their quest for the number one pick really is a joke, but you thinking that doesnt make me mad. For a while there I was supposedly a pathological hater who couldnt ever be happy. But then I am so excited about Caleb and Johnson that it morphed into i think Im so smart. Which is weird because i didnt claim to invent the wheel or anything, I just said some players that a lot of people thought were good and bad were good and bad. THe smart really just came into it when after hearing about it from you for months, it turned out I was right. I dont want to prove Im smart. I wanted to prove that you were wrong all those times you gave me crap for what I was saying that turned out to be true. I mean, is someone a genius if they think Banks is a good OT? Or that Kmet might be trade bait? These arent off the wall theories, theyre pretty normal I think. It's all really stupid. You may hate me, but that doesnt mean Im objectively toxic. It just means you cant stand me. Cool.

Um OK. I think you're proving my point but whatever. I dont really want a fight with you Mongo. Im just not going to submit to anyone. If you require that, then you can say or do whatever you need to. Stinger and i actually have a reason to be mad at each other. I dunno what, except for not agreeing that you were behaving yourself when you told me I have to defer to your opinion on OL and calling me a bitch. But honestly, i dont really care. It wasnt that bad. If you want to keep sniping, go ahead, but its kinda dumb.

Totally agree. I want a team that dominates, not one that wins by luck and injured opponents.

OMG, the victimhood! Stinger, you started all this when you were speaking in the most disrespectful way because I was saying Fields sucks. Since our big blowup last year, you havent spokent to me like that since. Fighty, sure, but not like you were. Mongo, I think you just saw a fight and wanted to be part of it. But Libel? Come on thats ridiculous. Are you gonna jump on Stingers "Im gonna sue you because you fought with me on an internet forum?" The reason I left was because i respected you and didnt want to fight with you too. But I got over it What a bunch of absolute children. Guess what? Fields Sucks. Eberflus Sucks. Braxton Jones Sucks. Poles sucks, although since he lets BJ do what he wants, maybe that will work out. It's just true. Im sorry if it hurts your feelings. This is so crazy. All this because of Justin Fields. It's nuts.

what a wonderful example of not fighting! theres goes the neighborhood! You want this to be my fault, but it isnt - Im just not gonna take crap from idiots. No one here would. Sorry I hurt your feelings before saying Braxton isnt good. You were so sure I didnt know the position, but youre the god of OL play. Hows he looking now? Morons who cant stand being wrong. What a great look.

doubt thats helping. you already said youre in screw me mode, so people can take it for what its worth. Go have another drink, maybe it will make you feel better.

Im just saying when I say it, youre all over me, when one of your sportswriters says it, then its reasonable. And yet, every time, ive been right, just early. And no, to the other members of the board, I do not think Im smarter than you. This is just a constant insecure lie that comes from one person. I guess your experience on construction crews tells you everything you need to know. The funny thing is, until you started getting nuts about me saying Justin Fields sucked (which he DOES LOL) I didnt have problems on this board, posting my ideas, for 20 years. And no one else in my life thinks this about me. Usually they describe me in completely opposite terms. Ive raised a wonderful daughter, have lots of good friends, and was popular on my worksites too - in my case in recording studios working at the top of the music biz. Lots of stars, youve heard me on TV, in movies etc many times - but no one ever called me arrogant or anything like that. Just you couldnt stand to hear me say the truth about Bears players. You never want to trade anyone, everyone always needs a second chance. And Im the devil for telling the truth. For a while there you were SO out of control that i everntually had to heat it up to the point where other people told us both to stop, and since then you havent spokent the same way to me. Mean, judgemental, sure, but not like before, so mission accomplished. But you hate me. Its obvious. And what you say about me is insulting and not true. I find it hard to listen to it without saying something back. But youre not very smart, and youre overly emotional, and your abuse does not make you right. Ill come back in a week and say whatever the hell I want to about the Bears, but you'll have to play with someone else, because youre ridiculous, and I dont want to deal with you.

Just gonna say it once. I dont think Im so smart. 1) I usually say WHY I think something, so Im not just saying "Im smart" but instead Im saying "heres why I think it" 2) I didnt claim to invent this - lots of teams do it. So again, Im not so smart, just been watching football a while. 3) Its you telling me how wrong I am for months that makes me want to say I was right, not to show off that Im smart, but that all the abuse you sent to me and you were wrong in the end. Honestly, Im always surprised that you think the normal things Im saying are so controversial. Thats why I come back and say I was right, because of all the abuse i take, mostly from you, about how wrong I am. So isnt that you saying YOURE so smart when you tell me Im wrong so much?

When I said this a couple months ago, you were all over me. Can we figure out yet that I'm just early on these things? And maybe next time i suggest something only give half the hate? Trading good players when you have their replacements already int he pipeline is just logical - good teams do it all the time. Its not like i invented it.

I think it depends on what youre asking him to do. Ben Johnson certainly know the run game, and if he says Bieniemy is the right guy, then I am inclined to follow his leadership? I suspect that BJ is running a different scheme than the Eagles did, one that maybe Swift doesn't fit that well in, or maybe better said, the Eagles style might have fit him better, although they cut him loose too? I guess Im just saying that it's not as easy as saying that the only variable that changed is BJ, and that he should be doing something different? For example Montgomery has had more success under BJ than he did in Chicago. EDIT: Ive also read some rumors that BJ is going to switch the run game to an outside zone scheme during the bye. The rumor says this has more to do with the skill set of the OL, than helping Swift. i dunno if swift is fast enough to routinely get the outside corner, but i guess we will find out!

Braxton was awful handling the bull rush last year too. Caleb was running for his life as Im sure we all remember. Braxton wasnt the only weakness on the OL last year of course, but I think he is done as a Bear, if not right now, then after this season for sure.

I'll add this - I am not the only one who saw these things early, lots of people on this board agreed. But the passion around defending Fields, Eberflus, Poles and others is why this all started, the name calling and all that. None of this existed for the 20+ years I was on this board before that. Im not saying Im smarter than everyone at ALL, Im saying some people got really mad when I wouldnt budge and stayed true to my belief. And when I end up right about that stuff, I dont bring that up to say how smart I am, but to put a point on it after all the abuse I took for being early. It's natural if you get months of abuse, when it turns out you were right to say something. We can do this again when Kmet or Moore get traded. This whole summer I got heaps of crap about that too. When it happens, Im allowed to say "see?" without being an egotistical jerk. If I wanted to prove I was smart (which I dont) it certainly wouldnt be about football! Anyway, when I come back, lets ALL leave this behind. Please!

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Im not gonna go back and forth, but you were not just busting my balls, you called me a bitch, you said you were my coach and i was the student, you said you were offended at the idea that i could disagree with you about OL since you played, you figured you are the authority and I shouldnt have an opinion, but just defer. If it's screw me, then thats on you. When you act like an arrogant bully wanna be, and I dont play along, thats on you. Ask yourself, if someone came up to you, and said what you said, and called you a bitch, youd just laugh? And also,mit was over a course of days, maybe weeks that you stayed with the "joke" You should own what you did, but I truly dont need you to. I will just ask that you treat me respectfully in the future. That would be good enough. And if you cant do that, then that will show too.

no, Ill just say this once. 1) I said Braxton sucks, and so I HOPE Trapilo will supplant him. I predicted the end of Braxton, but not what kind of a player Trapilo would become. I wasnt making any kind of judgement on Benedet, who was not really in the discussion at the time. Just that Braxton sucks. And he does. 2) People can disagree with me all they want, but often i am early seeing something when other dont, and then they start attacking me about it, and once attacked, i absolutely defend myself. But if someone simply disagrees with me, thats FINE. For example, you just called me "stalker" in the same sentence you said not to call people names? 3) I dont think I know everything. Most of what I say is opinion and I say it that way "I think" etc - certainly a lot more than you use that kind of language to be sure. When I make an actual statement to assert what I think is now a fact about Charles Leno, Fields, Eberflus, Poles, Braxton Jones and the potential of Caleb I have been right every time. I dont make those kind of statements until i am sure, and like i said, that happens often earlier than some others want to see something, so they say Im negative, and call me names. Thats how things started with you and me too - you couldnt stand that I said that Justin Fields sucked, and you went after me personally calling names and saying things that would generally get people punched in a bar.. Then I asked you to stop, you didnt, then I demanded you stop and you still didnt, and then I finally ramped it up to the point where others on the board told us BOTH to stop. I paid a personal price for that here, but it also got you to stop. Since then, you've been abrasive, but not using the kind of language you were toward me before. 4) I dont cop any attitude with people who disagree with me - I do cop a major attitude when people treat me with disrespect, name calling, profanity and the like. With most members of this board, I usually agree. Dont forget, before you threw your Justin Fields tantrums Id been here for like 20 years, and wasnt known for that at all was I? Anyway, I know who you are Stinger, and I dont expect you to understand this or to be able to behave yourself. My problem was when Mongo started it too. I would rather respect the members of this board like him who are worthy of it, and simply disagree if that's what happens. And a comment here or there is easy to let go, but Mongo was being consistently disrespectful for a couple weeks, so i said what I needed to, and took a leave of absence. I dont need to re-litigate it all, I am only gonna explain this to you especially just this once. I dont care what you think of it, whether you understand it. Im not gonna go back and forth. When I do come back, maybe after the bye, I expect ALL of us, myself included, to deal with respect. Like I said, I doubt you personally can do it, but as long as everyone else is cool, there is no need for fighting. But most of all, this has ALL been about me being early on these topics. Seeing things that other people werent ready to see, or watching film instead of just looking at stats and reading sportswriter narratives. When I see something, and then I am confident in what I see, that isnt arrogance. And being unwilling to bend to common beliefs is not arrogance, its just confidence, the kind people have when they know theyre right, no matter what everyone else is saying. And again, the things Ive been right about are just a handful of things. Its not like everything I guess or opine on is set in stone. But when I talk about Kmet not being up to his paycheck, I got so much hate from you, but now you see it too dont you? Will you remember that thats why you thought I was arrogant, and realize i was right? Or is it just a memory of how you felt, and now that you agree, you still blame me? I hate talking about all of this - I wont anymore. I'll be back in a few weeks, and I hope people can control themselves from getting personal and then acting like they are a victim when I speak back.

OK, so this exact evaluation is what I was saying several weeks ago that prompted your reaction that I: 1) am a "bitch" 2) dont understand OL play 3) should defer in all opinions about OL to you since you played and I didnt And that's why I have taken a leave of absence. I could handle cheap shots from one particular member saying things like this that would get you punched in a bar, but I didnt want to fight like that with you too. I would prefer to simply discuss football. I will consider coming back at some point, but it has to be really different.