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They are talking about McFadden, not Newman.

I see that now, thank you So we still need the two things that I (and most of us) said were the most important things, LT and Edge. So what I said about the draft isnt looking so out there anymore. Its nice we have Loveland and Burden, they both look great, but we could have had Mykell Williams and Aireontae Ersery instead. The cute idea of dropping down for Trapilo and thinking he'd become your starting LT is clearly not working out here in reality. I like the player, I like his skills, I like his attitude, but he wasnt able to crack the job at LT. Maybe he will at the bye?

I wasnt trolling I was saying 2 things. 1) your lie about not responding to Mongo's specific statement falls apart when we see you quoted the statement you were responding to 2) I was actually legitimately trying to be helpful because you keep using parenthesis when you mean quotation marks. Sometimes the smartest football people have horrible grammar, so i wasnt trying to diminish you with that. Grammar means nothing on this site, football knowledge is what its about. I was just telling you so you can do it right next time.

right, because you quoted him before your response. now you claim you were answering a different earlier point to weasel out of what you said, but that doesnt fly because the comment you were replying to was quoted by you ahead of your response. Also, I think you mean to use quotation marks around the word "but" and not parenthesis?

they get paid to help the Chiefs all season long, so they have to practice it in preseason LOL

you seriously dont think we need an edge player?

but you yourself quoted the comment you were responding to...

I agree. I didnt mean it was a clean play, I was just marveling at the effort.

Also, damn, look at this stud taking our entire D line out. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=616661141286670

did you mean to post a link? I havent seen any all 22 yet from that game. Id love to

Amen Amen Amen - ive been saying since before (and right after) the draft that we needed LT and Edge The three most important positions on the football field are: 1) QB 2) Edge rusher (tackles the QB) 3) LT (blocks the edge rusher so he cant tackle the QB) This is the holy trinity of any football team. You can add coach to the list. As optimistically as possible, you can say we have the coach and QB set. halfway there.

I think Caleb and the offense are going to be all right. I dont know how many weeks that is going to take. It might be a bit though. I do worry about the LT and the Pass Rush a lot though. I hope they come through.

he was talking about McCarthy, Williams isnt making his first career start.

LOL I get it. Drives me nuts.

Without having looked at each play multiple times, just by eye on a single viewing, this is what i saw too. Totally agree. I am concerned about the pass rush. Without one, it's not easy to win games, especially against good QBs.

do you think Zah might go on the practice squad first? And after last night Walker has made a good case for himself for sure

Ugh. I know guys were out and we werent scheming, and maybe players didnt care enough about a game that doesnt matter, but our pass rush was atrocious. Braxton looked scary to me at times too. I'm glad Johnson left Caleb in until that last touchdown in the first half. Also great time management at the very end of the game. Johnson knows his situational football. First guy we've had that did in a long time. There is a lot to yell at the players about over the next couple weeks until Minnesota. That's when it matters, and everyone will be in and we will see for real. But man tonight was anything but crisp, and Im telling you, if thats our pass rush, we are screwed this year. Dayo looks like a nose tackle out there. He isnt gonna get pressure.

Ugh. In Phoenix AZ, the game is "blacked out in your area" on NFL Network, so i get to see a replay of it in 3 1/2 hours. I guess i wont read this site until ive seen it for spoilers. Look forward to talking about it with you all when Im caught up.

Very excited to see if the crispness continues.

so it'd be Hippolyte vs Sewell as a starter? Cool. I didnt assume anyone doesnt make the squad, just left the slots open for debate. I dunno if Hippolyte is quite ready for prime time, but he certainly has attributes and will stick around this team one way or another. I think LB is one of only two positions I had two slots open for (safety is the other), and i was just wondering whether Hippolyte would go to the practice squad if he isnt a starter to gain experience before we bring him up - its not a knock on him at all. Thats why I put him where he was.

I think Hyppolite is probably a practice squad guy at first. I agree on Amagadje. I do think that the bottom few spots might be filled by camp cuts from other teams Youre probably right about the 2nd string safeties too, but i kind of feel like there might be more shakeup there than we are expecting.

I agree, and they already picked up another back in Brittain, plus we will pick up some people that are cut by other teams after cut down day too, so the bottom few positions on the 53 are not set

Well if they offered him for free, and he was willing to play for the league minimum, I assume everyone would be 100% on board. So the issue isnt whether hes a good player (hes an incredible player) but what the price would be. So I dont understand everyone rejecting it out of hand - at some price it'd be good, and at another price it'd be fair, and at another price it would be too much. If we had to give a 2nd round pick and he was willing to play for $25M a year, we'd do it in a heartbeat. If they wanted Cole Kmet straight up for him, and he would cost the same as Kmet, then its a no brainer as well. So I think its a little lazy of everyone to just say "no" without wondering what the highest price would be that it would still be a good idea? I agree it probably wont happen so if no one wants to play the game, that's fine, but its a good question, not an easy one. And you can bet Ryan Poles is exploring it too and asking himself the same thing right now.

me too - I want you to see it so we can compare notes.

Ok, so here's my swing at a 53 man roster right now. The ??????? slots will be filled either by guys currently on the roster (in parenthesis) or by grabbing someone else's cast off. All this assuming no trades that take guys from our roster too. So lets talk - did I put anyone on that isnt gonna make the 53? Are any of the guys in parenthesis locks? Closest I see to that is Amagadje, but I left that one open in case anyone wants to promote someone else. 2025 Bears 53 Man Roster QB (2) Caleb WIlliams Tyson Bagent RB (4) D'Andre Swift Kyle Monongai Roschon Johnson ??????? (Brittain Brown, Royce Freeman, Travis Homer, Ian Wheeler) WR (6) Rome Odunze DJ Moore Olamide Zacchaeus Luther Burden Devin Duvernay ??????? (Maurice Alexander, JP Richardson, Samori Toure, Jahdae Walker) OL (10) Joe Thuney Drew Dalman Darnell Right Jonah Jackson Braxton Jones Theo Benedet Ozzy Trapilo Ryan Bates Luke Newman ??????? (Kiran Amagadje, Bill Murray, Jordan McFadden, Doug Kramer, Chris Glaser, Joshua Miles, Ricky Stromberg) TE (3) Colston Loveland Cole Kmet Durham Smythe DL (10) Montez Sweat Grady Jarrett Andrew Billings Dayo Odeyingbo Gervon Dexter Austin Booker Chris WIlliams Shemar Turner Dominique Robinson ??????? (Daniel Hardy, Zacch Pickens, Xavier Carlton, Jonathan Ford, Taroh Kpassagnon, Jamree Kromah) LB (5) Tremaine Edmunds TJ Edwards Noah Sewell ??????? ??????? (Ruben Hyppolite, Amen Ogbongbemiga, Swayze Bozeman, Power Echols, Carl Jones) S (4) Kevin Byard Jaquan Brisker ??????? ??????? (Elijah Hicks, Jonathan Owens, Alex Cook, Millard Bradford, Tysheem Johnson, Mark Perry, CB (6) Jaylon Johnson Kyler Gordon Tyrique Stevenson Nashon Wright Josh Blackwell ??????? (Tre Flowers, Zah Frazier, Mekhi Garner, Kaleb Hayes, Nick McCloud, Jeremiah Walker) ST (3) Cairo Santos Tory Taylor Scott Daly Some Practice Squad guesses, many of which could make the 53: Kiran Amagadje JP Richardson Jordan McFadden Ruben Hyppolite Zah Frasier Austin Reed