ASHKUM BEAR

That is why I would go for these risky guys. Does anyone think we are in playoff contention this season? I think we are closer to a top 10 pick in 2018. At CB, we have a squad of young players and will have to cut a few as it is. At TE, we have enough to fill a roster with Sims, Miller, Brown, and Braunicker. If the Bears feel Jones or Butt can rehab and contribute big in 18 then picking one if available in the 4th if good.

Rookie stats, added thoughts: comp att % yds tds ints rating Player1: 247 416 59.4% 2608 19 9 83.9 Player2: 339 627 54.1% 4374 23 18 76.5 One was drafted as a sure thing and is considered "elite" the other was drafted RD3 as a project. Both played most games their rookie season. Player two is Andrew Luck, it took him a couple years to settle in and to produce at elite levels. Glennon, was in a better balanced offense but poorly talented team and put up solid numbers. For some reason, they pulled the plug on letting him grow and eventually took Winston, they should have stuck with Glennon and drafted Amari Cooper or Leonard Williams.

Now Alaska sees the light

Sage Rosenthals breaks down Osweiler and Glennon signings and says the Bears invested wisely. http://www.thescore.com/news/1254088

I don't think I would spend a 3rd RD pick but that 4th would be tempting. I think they can survive letting an 4th rd redshirt for a potential shut down CB. 4th rounders Bush and Houston-Carson sat most of the year and we are already talking about drafting replacements over them.

There has to be a fine line, but taking a risk on Sidney Jones, who was projected mid 1st, would be worth it if you get him with your early 4th IMO. Dallas on the other hand risked on a large scale with ND LB Jaylon Smith last year with their 2nd RD pick. Smith was projected as high as the #1 over all before his injury. If he is healthy this year and plays at the level projected, they made a bold wise risk but losing that 2nd in 16' was costly.

I feel the same way about Jake Butt TE. If he is there RD4, stash him on IR also. 2017 is not expected to be promising, more like a feeler to see if there is improvement.

Sidney Jones CB Wash, was considered a first round CB, tore his Achilles at his pro day. This cost him a lot of money and the 2017 season. I would think he makes it to Round 3 and possibly RD4. Would love to stash him while they see what Prince and Fuller have on one year deals. He would be like a 2018 1st RD pick. Contract expires after 2017: Prince Amukamara CB, Kyle Fuller CB, Sherrick McManis CB, Bryce Callahan CB, DeVante Bausby CB, Jacoby Glenn CB, and Rashaad Reynolds Contract expires after 2018: Crevon LeBlanc CB, Tracy Porter CB Contract expires after 2019: Marcus Cooper CB, Deiondre' Hall CB

What defines BPA? Being best to contibute right away or best for the team long term? If going by right away, then you will never have a QB as BPA. I think both Trubisky or Watson can be long term starters in this league and that will weigh in.

I would love any of those prospects and feel QB may very well be up the sleeve also. Here is what Pace said after hired as GM. It's a powerful lens in front of Ryan Pace's eyes as he prepares for his first draft as Bears general manager. Since Pace was hired Jan. 8, he has expressed how vital a quarterback is to sustaining success while calling it the most difficult position to evaluate and fill. So although the Bears are proceeding this season with incumbent Jay Cutler, Pace's search for a long-term solution will continue. "It's a good idea to add a quarterback every year," Pace said in late March. "You can take a swing every year at it and increase your odds." That could mean an early-round pick, a late one or a college free agent. Pace overlapped with Tony Romo as a player at Eastern Illinois — not long before Romo went from undrafted free agent to Cowboys star — so he knows that continuing to spin the wheel for a quarterback can pay off. Finding that treasure, though, can require navigating a minefield with various levels of investment and risk." So, if he feels one of the top guys is worth the risk, I beleive he takes one. He has not drafted one yet which is surprising from what he said, but I think this year he takes one RD 1-2.

I agree, they need more than Glennon. No one knows if he will flop, get hurt, or be the fa signing of the decade. To count on him, Shaw, and another developmental guy equivalent to Shaw makes no sense...well unless you're a Bears fan.. that is part of Bear culture. Also, signing Glennon to starter money means nothing since they had no one under contract before that and have no idea who will even be available when they draft. If they were solely counting on a QB in the draft to be their day 1 starter, they would have to trade up to #1. All we can read into is we can get a stud defensive player who should produce quickly or a future signal caller who may take some time to adjust.

45 days until draft day and it is anybodys guess what the Bears do. I will say this is the first year I am completely lost on trying to guess. FA didnt go as I expected and the draft will probably follow suit.

I agree with no WR in rds 1 or 2, but if Schuster or Z Jones is there rd3 then you have to consider it. Pace is supposedly a BPA GM.

Yep, cannot feel good about this group until they produce.

I forgot about Kush, thank you for reminding me. He is a near starter in my books and future Sitton replacement. I like Long at guard for now. He will be playing with a torn shoulder and you need more reach outside.

One man missing in these comparisons is Derek Barnett. He should be in the mix as well. 56 tackles, 40 solo, 13.5 sacks.. 1 INT, 5 PD. Career: 198 tackles, 131 solo, 32 sacks, 52 TFL His numbers are just as good. If they are targeting a DE/OLB, might try damb hard to trade down. You have choices of Garrett, Allen, Thomas, and Barnett. Get the ammo to trade back up for a QB.

If Grasu is the better C, then go for it. Would Whitehair be better than Leno outside? Not right away, but he is definitely a guy who would be disciplined and works at being great. Speaking of Long, he may not be the same since his shoulder is torn and cannot do surgery bc of time and complications. Finding another G should be a priority to fill in.

I would be good with taking a risk on Jake Butt if he can be drafted round 4. Redshirt him a year if need be.

True, but would you pass on him now in round 1 if given the chance? I think that is Watson's ceiling, they can pass and take a solid #2 in Webb or Peterman rounds 2-3 and shoot for 2018 for a legit prospect.

This is an odd signing by GB who usually poaches players that are cut instead of FA's. I think their front office is under pressure and they are abandoning their philosophy that has given them 17 compensation picks since Ted Thompson took over 12 years ago. Also looking at GB draft history, they trade down a lot. The Bears in the same time frame of 2005 to 2016 has had 6 compensatory picks; 3 in 2008 and 3 in 2009. This is a reflection of drafting good players.

I am also on board with this. Trade down if it makes you feel better, but do not pass up on a QB because player A is slotted around #15 and we hold card #3. I don't care if they draft QB in round one the next 3 years or more as long as they make an attempt to get it right for once in my life and have a quality backup that was drafted and groomed by the Bears also. I still feel Watson would be that long term answer and he can have a career similiar to Russell Wilson, I would use 3 on him.

That draft would be awesome. I think we draft a TE high since we will need all the help in receiving dept as possible.

I wasn't too impressed with the oline fa class. Massie played much better later on, so not sure Beachum would be a big upgrade. I think he whiffed on the DB's to be critical of him. The WR's were meh, Alshon was it and it seemed to want out regardless. Wonder how far off we are from reaching the minimum cap? Looks like we will be at the bottom and carrying over some cap.

All the QB needy teams are out of the Glennon sweepatakes except for the Bears. If this is indeed the case, his price should drop considerably. If the Bears sign him for his asking price, then we are in big trouble under this regime. If the Bears sign him to an incentive laden contract, say 8 million with bonuses, then maybe it a worth considering. I still would prefer Hoyer, but wanted to point out Buf, SF, NYJ have stated no interest.

I want Hoyer back to bridge the gap for a 1st round draft pick. If Kizer or Mahommes can be had in RD2, I can go with that also. I do not want a long term project QB with were we are at with the QB situation now. Prospects like Webb/Peterman work if you have 2 years to see if they develop, we do not have that luxury imo.