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Fair enough.

After only getting five...in two years...with Aaron Rodgers as the QB?

How does this affect Derek Carr’s value?

Yeah I'm with you. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Seems like another Burton-style hire; may do good coming out of the block but probably will fizzle quick. Just for reference (source ProFootballReference): New Orleans (5 yrs): 386 Rec for 4752 yards and 51 TDs Seattle (3 yrs): 170 Rec for 2048 yards and 18 TDs GB (2 yrs): 93 Rec for 1083 yards and 5 TDs. His catch percentage has maintained above 60% over the course of his career but that was with Brees, Wilson and Rodgers throwing to him.

To the Raiders for $21million (3 year deal): https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28912093/source-raiders-lb-nick-kwiatkoski-reach-3-year-deal

Ed Werder and Mike Garafolo (reputable NFL insiders) are both saying ‘no’ to Bridgewater to Chicago. (sorry don’t know how to link Twitter accounts). Werder says “Bears are focused on Andy Dalton or Nick Foles”. Garafolo says “not expecting Bridgewater to Chicago. Other FA options out there.”

Wow! With Hopkins and Fitzgerald (even if he is an old man), Arizona just got dangerous .

Totally. And Bridgewater isn’t nearly as mobile as Mitch. And if he goes down ... he’s probably done. If this rumor is true, I’d at least like to have Mitch around for an insurance policy.

...or a Derek Carr trade?? ?

Just to be clear; I didn’t say Safety was not a need. I simply don’t agree that it’s as important as a player need from the FA crop. Like AZ points out this player has other skills (sorta like Hester - safety with return skills) or like Ashkum says; a “tweener” or hybrid. One that can cover two zones (essentially anywhere in the back 7) is more valuable than a guy who just covers one area. And when you draft a player like this you pay the lesser amount up front.

Not sure if someone else already talked about the player Kyle Duggar(?) But he sounds like the type of player you refer to. A ‘tweener’ LB/DB that played D2 ball. Right in Paces wheelhouse.

Interesting (not surprising) article about the Bears attempt at bringing Kwit back. And the last line in the article sums up a great point; that being Pace has managed to find some decent defensive players that other teams want. https://sportsmockery.com/2020/03/bears-reportedly-tried-to-keep-nick-kwiatkoski-prior-to-trevathan-deal/

Well thank you for finally seeing it my way... ?oh boy? Once again you over-react. If the rumor is true about them re-signing HHCD it doesn't make much sense for them to try and sign a FA SS too. For the record, and for as much as I like Clinton-Dix, I agreed with others (maybe even you) that he’s just another FS and we don’t need that. I’d rather see a player like Amos back there where Jackson was able to roam more. With Dix back there they split the field in half and aren’t able to play sideline to sideline. Maybe with Amukamara leaving they’re less concerned about having to cover him over the top? Id have to read up on Paganos last defenses to see how he used safeties. It might make more sense on where they’re headed.

Sure I get it. Think there was one other site that mentioned it too. And at this point it’s all rumor and conjecture. Even the guy who posted the rumor tweet said ‘one of the teams’ was Chicago. Meaning if there are discussions of Carr being traded, there may be a few suitors. Nothing much of significance will probably happen until the 18th.

Saw the rumor that someone else posted regarding the potential of HHCD coming back. I suppose there are worse things that could happen. But supports the idea SS isn’t as much a need, not enough to pay a high price for another FA. That is until we see what price Ha Ha costs the team... In other news, the rumors for Derek Carr to Chicago are heating up: https://beargoggleson.com/2020/03/14/chicago-bears-rumors-derek-carr-trade/

My passion is Bears football. I blame my forked tongue on my Irish roots! “Sliante” to all of you my friends!!!

If my math is right that means ~$7million/year? Guaranteed money I’m guessing plays into the cap where the overall contract does not? Sorry to see Kwit is looking elsewhere. Gotta go where the money takes you I guess. He’ll probably end up like a Shea McClellin where he’ll be a ‘meh’ player and still win a Super Bowl ring. But I’m glad Danny is back. He deserves it. Love me some Danny T!

What gets me about your responses is how simply offended you get by someone (namely me) that has a contrarian view from yours. You’re way too sensitive for someone who is as arrogant about your thoughts. When you project a suggestion like a FA or draft pick it’s an absolute not a possibility. That’s why I wonder if you’re not secretly Ryan Pace because 1) you’re so sure what the Bears are going to do and 2) are so offended when you’re wrong or in this case conflicted. I know it bothers you I was right about Cutler, about Trubisky (so far) and that Nagy should’ve had starters play in the preseason last season and the season before (points I made and you made clear were ridiculous in your opinion). These are just a few examples of where we’ve disagreed in the past and will continue to do so I’m sure. Doesn’t bother me, so it shouldn’t bother you. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m not. Don’t take it personal. Make your pompous prediction and move on... Go Bears.

Not when you’re talking about higher ticket FAs. (The theme of this thread). I suspect that yes a player like Bush or even DHC (ick) could return but I don’t see them making a hard run if there becomes a fight for veteran FA safeties.

I say they draft one. SS isn’t as much a need as OL, TE or even “backup” (competition - start worthy) QB. McKinney (Bama) and Delpit (LSU) are unquestionably the top two and depending on other teams’ needs could drop into the 2nd round. But there are a few good players in the “Tier 2” level too. JR Reid (Georgia) is one Ive heard some chatter on. He and Roquan are friends. And outside of Floyd the Bears have done good with Georgia players as of late . https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-draft-safety-rankings-unique-class-lacks-elite-options-but-delivers-depth/

Well would you look at that, we agree on something. AZ: gotta believe that this is a team friendly deal. The savings of it (assuming as much) will allow them to bring back KPL who himself was on the rise late last season.

Him too or Barrett. Either would be an upgrade. And/or try KPL off the edge.

Color me intrigued.

Maybe you missed it but Mariota and Trubisky are not nearly identical in their career trajectories but they also have the same agent. Many 'in the biz' seem to think that works contrary to what agents do; maintaining a 'starting contract' for one QB (Trubisky) while representing another QB to be a back-up (Mariota). Then there's the whole Mariota was replaced by the not so great Ryan Tannehill thing. But don't get me wrong, I like Mariota...at this point I'm not sure how he'd be a better option that Trubisky. And you keep typing 'Sudeth' but I think you mean 'Sudfeld' who is the THIRD STRING QB for Philadelphia. Not sure how you endorse a guy you can't get his name right AND who can't even find a starting job somewhere else and lost out to Josh McCown last year as a back-up for the Eagles? If you're going to go after a third string QB 'in that system' why not just bring back Tyler Bray?

I didn’t know either for sure but this taken from a piece on NBC News: “The Bears would probably get hit with tampering charges, seeing as Manning — who retired in January — is still under contract with the New York Giants, and will be until the new league year begins March 18. “